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Has anybody ever made tools that bend, twist, sqeeze and notch pipes like the ones in this picture? I'm using very rudementary and time wasting home made tools to produce this. Hopefully someone has better ideas. Attached Images
Reply:That gate is wonderful!A hydrualic ironworker with dies can do most of that work along with an oxy torch. A lot of the components can be store bought. You can get them from King Architectural.www.kingmetals.comWeld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:you did all that by hand?!? that is an awesome gate!There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonThat gate is wonderful!A hydrualic ironworker with dies can do most of that work along with an oxy torch. A lot of the components can be store bought. You can get them from King Architectural.www.kingmetals.com
Reply:Originally Posted by ThorsHammer you did all that by hand?!? that is an awesome gate!
Reply:Nice work!!! I rarely see craftmanship like that. I would love to see what tools you use, and the work area you use.
Reply:Originally Posted by Mango MattoNice work!!! I rarely see craftmanship like that. I would love to see what tools you use, and the work area you use.
Reply:There is nothing "time wasting" about that gate. King Arthur should live so long as to have one as nice. Sheesh...Lincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:Originally Posted by PapaLionThere is nothing "time wasting" about that gate. King Arthur should live so long as to have one as nice. Sheesh...
Reply:That gate here in the US would cost $120,000 or more, not $1200!Hobart EZ-Tig newbie.
Reply:I would love to see those homemade tools. You have built a beautiful gate.
Reply:Originally Posted by chimmikeThat gate here in the US would cost $120,000 or more, not $1200!
Reply:Here comes the tools and some other designs. Note that all pipes are hollow sections, there are no steel bars. Attached Images
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Reply:Basically all the tools are manual. It is a matter of having the collect die to cut the designs through the pipes. Attached Images
Reply:Wow, talk about crude equipment! With very primitive tools you have done a job many of us with even a shop full of equipment would only dream about, you should be very happy with the product and your ingenuity is amazing. Can you show us a little more in depth how the tools are used? I have seen the spirals in the round tube before and would like to use that on some of my own work, any more info would be great. Keep up the work and post pics of you new projects. "Anybody can talk $h!t behind a monitor, I let the quality of my work speak for itself"Lincoln Square Wave 255 and 355 Tig Lincoln 255 Power-Mig w/ spool gun Koike 5 x 10 CNC plasma Hyd-Mech DM-10 bandsaw Ineco QB-76 NC tube bender
Reply:Originally Posted by CoupebuilderWow, talk about crude equipment! With very primitive tools you have done a job many of us with even a shop full of equipment would only dream about, you should be very happy with the product and your ingenuity is amazing. Can you show us a little more in depth how the tools are used? I have seen the spirals in the round tube before and would like to use that on some of my own work, any more info would be great. Keep up the work and post pics of you new projects.
Reply:The other image shows the square pipe twister and also for side designs as those appearing in the gates above. When a clockwise motion is made, the machine squeezes the pipe. Depending on the die in it, the design will be formed. The pipe is then moved by about 1 inch after an anticlockwise motion, then the same is repeated. For some designs, the 1 inch motion is also followed by a quarter turn of the pipe. The cuts in the dies are for the sizes of the pipes which are to be slightly squeezed on the edges. If the pipe is, say, 25mm, the cut on opposite sides of the die will be slighly less, about 22mm so that it makes a squeeze of 1.5mm on either edge. Attached Images
Reply:Here is my lovely bender. It does most of the work modern benders can do and it did all the bends in the gates except for the square pipe bends which I cut using a grinder and fill after shaping. Also here is another gate under fabrication using the same tools. Attached Images
Reply:If you could find a shipper, you could sell those gates just about anywhere in the world for 20 times what they are going for locally.
Reply:Anyone else interested in pooling some money to get this guy to the states and get him into a real market for his skills. Your work is amazing. and seriously, if you can slam that out in a week with three guys you'd be able to make a fortune. What's that site that asks people to buy into a small business to get it off the ground? You've got real talent. and I would definately look into finding a shipper, or something to get your product to the world.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:By the way what types of materials do you work with?There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:I am speechless....
Reply:That's superb work and the tooling is brilliant in its simplicity.That method of screw-cutting is how many of the first screws were made and it evidently still works well!Your use of geometry, patina, and color are very good. Since you have the skill and a good eye for design, look for designs on the internet not to copy, but to inspire you.For tool ideas, you might look to old hand tools. Some of the best pictures of these are on Ebay. Since you have rudimentary facilities, consider doing some blacksmithing. Blacksmiths have made their own tools and a basic charcoal or propane or butane (I don't know what you have available) would serve you well. Forging can turn old parts into something completely different. Old brake drums are often used for forges. A word to local truck mechanics might get you one too worn for road use.There are many free books on the subject for download:http://www.craftsmanspace.com/free-b...chanician.htmlhttp://www.popularmechanics.com/home...orking/4303543Persevere with your work! The conditions under which you must operate also helped develop your talent. Keep posting pictures. They are inspirational.Originally Posted by ThorsHammerAnyone else interested in pooling some money to get this guy to the states and get him into a real market for his skills. Your work is amazing. and seriously, if you can slam that out in a week with three guys you'd be able to make a fortune. What's that site that asks people to buy into a small business to get it off the ground? You've got real talent. and I would definately look into finding a shipper, or something to get your product to the world.
Reply:Blacksmithing would allow you to transcend some of the limitations of the stock you work with, and with the ability to forge and harden tools you could have a professional smithy in short order. You could forge your own drill bits easily in any size you like.Here's a well-known casting website which might be useful to you.http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/Also, since "a sale is a sale", look on the internet for various stove designs and see if you think you have a market.Google search "Third World Stoves" and "third world water pumps" for many interesting designs. Google "Cole Drill" for examples of a drill you might build which can tackle light or heavy work. You aren't restricted to conventional drill chucks. The chuck on a bit brace will mount shanks you can forge yourself.Let's respond with tool advice. This fellow is quite capable!
Reply:Lutadam,Do you use oxy/acetylene torches at all? I used to be pretty good with a rosebud tip.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by ThorsHammerBy the way what types of materials do you work with?
Reply:Originally Posted by ironmangqIf you could find a shipper, you could sell those gates just about anywhere in the world for 20 times what they are going for locally.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmallThat's superb work and the tooling is brilliant in its simplicity.That method of screw-cutting is how many of the first screws were made and it evidently still works well!Your use of geometry, patina, and color are very good. Since you have the skill and a good eye for design, look for designs on the internet not to copy, but to inspire you.For tool ideas, you might look to old hand tools. Some of the best pictures of these are on Ebay. Since you have rudimentary facilities, consider doing some blacksmithing. Blacksmiths have made their own tools and a basic charcoal or propane or butane (I don't know what you have available) would serve you well. Forging can turn old parts into something completely different. Old brake drums are often used for forges. A word to local truck mechanics might get you one too worn for road use.There are many free books on the subject for download:http://www.craftsmanspace.com/free-b...chanician.htmlhttp://www.popularmechanics.com/home...orking/4303543Persevere with your work! The conditions under which you must operate also helped develop your talent. Keep posting pictures. They are inspirational.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonLutadam,Do you use oxy/acetylene torches at all? I used to be pretty good with a rosebud tip.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmallBlacksmithing would allow you to transcend some of the limitations of the stock you work with, and with the ability to forge and harden tools you could have a professional smithy in short order. You could forge your own drill bits easily in any size you like.Here's a well-known casting website which might be useful to you.http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/Also, since "a sale is a sale", look on the internet for various stove designs and see if you think you have a market.Google search "Third World Stoves" and "third world water pumps" for many interesting designs. Google "Cole Drill" for examples of a drill you might build which can tackle light or heavy work. You aren't restricted to conventional drill chucks. The chuck on a bit brace will mount shanks you can forge yourself.Let's respond with tool advice. This fellow is quite capable!
Reply:Is this thinking man you Lutadam?Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Next time somebody talks about having it rough...show'em this stuff!I hate rude behavior in a man.......Won't tolerate it! Woodrow F. Call
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonIs this thinking man you Lutadam?
Reply:Probably now I got the best view with a large pipe being groved. This is me in operation!! I first changed the die and the angle because I needed large grooves on the 42mm pipe. Then I oiled the pipe with old engine oil to enable it move through the machine smoothly. With large pipes, above 20mm, it is better to put two crosses on either side to enable two people turn it anticlockwise. Attached ImagesLast edited by Lutadam; 05-22-2012 at 07:30 AM.Reason: spelling
Reply:After securing the pipe with a screw and having enough pressure using the screw, the game begins. It is quite enjoyable especially when the groves are coming out fine. Sometimes it require several adjustments like tilting the angle on the die both by sharpening and in the vice. Attached Images
Reply:Beautiful Lutadam!I learned something today.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Thanks again for sharing the pics and the explanation of the process was very helpful. I have seen some similiar work in the recyled metal art pieces my wife buys for her home decor business and always wondered how it was done. Maybe this has occured to you, but if you were able to find and old pipe threader you could use that to turn the material slowly and with enough torque to save time and what appears to be a lot of hard work. Or possily a high torque/low speed drill (like a 90 deg. joist drill so you have a long handle for leverage) with an adapter chucked in it. Anyway please keep sharing pics and work, you have many fans on this side of the world! "Anybody can talk $h!t behind a monitor, I let the quality of my work speak for itself"Lincoln Square Wave 255 and 355 Tig Lincoln 255 Power-Mig w/ spool gun Koike 5 x 10 CNC plasma Hyd-Mech DM-10 bandsaw Ineco QB-76 NC tube bender
Reply:Originally Posted by CoupebuilderThanks again for sharing the pics and the explanation of the process was very helpful. I have seen some similiar work in the recyled metal art pieces my wife buys for her home decor business and always wondered how it was done. Maybe this has occured to you, but if you were able to find and old pipe threader you could use that to turn the material slowly and with enough torque to save time and what appears to be a lot of hard work. Or possily a high torque/low speed drill (like a 90 deg. joist drill so you have a long handle for leverage) with an adapter chucked in it. Anyway please keep sharing pics and work, you have many fans on this side of the world!
Reply:I think Coupebuilder meant pipe threading machine which is what we had to twist metalthough you need to modify it with a momentary switch to jog the machine on and offOr it can go to far when the normal switch is usedYou do great workBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Originally Posted by ThorsHammerAnyone else interested in pooling some money to get this guy to the states and get him into a real market for his skills. Your work is amazing. and seriously, if you can slam that out in a week with three guys you'd be able to make a fortune. What's that site that asks people to buy into a small business to get it off the ground? You've got real talent. and I would definately look into finding a shipper, or something to get your product to the world.
Reply:Originally Posted by sporadichttp://www.kickstarter.com/Amazing work on those gates
Reply:Originally Posted by killdozerd11I think Coupebuilder meant pipe threading machine which is what we had to twist metalthough you need to modify it with a momentary switch to jog the machine on and offOr it can go to far when the normal switch is usedYou do great work
Reply:Originally Posted by LutadamI'm not very good at the mechanics ...
Reply:I just found out I could do this design by changing the die and direction of rotation Attached Images
Reply:Absolutely amazing. Thank you for sharing your work!
Reply:All I can say is Lutadam needs an agent that won't rip him off but market his stuff in another continent away fron the graft and corruption. I worked with a helicopter pilot who spent a year in British Guiana in the 1960's. A fuel drum left in the jungle was gone instantly and became cooking untensils and a variety of pots and pans. Under his direction I made our geology bush camp in Northern Canada a hot soaking bath tub that you could stretch out in at the end of a long day.
Reply:Lutadam I am speechless buddy! Unbelievable craftmanship I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys |
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