Value of Miller SD 180 & looking for tubing bender

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Looking for the value of a Miller SD 180 welder, fully working with everything it came new with (no tank or cart), used by a hobby guy. Opinions?Also looking to buy a tubing bender if anyone has one for sale JD2 style or similar.
Reply:Syncrowave 180's will run $900- $1200 depending on what condition and what comes with it. If you are looking to buy, I'd shoot for $900 without any extras. A few guys here have even gotten those machines for $800 or less in very good condition.If you go to Millers site you can down load the manual and it will tell you the start up sequence to bring up the run timer and arc starts so you can get an idea how much the machine was actually used..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:repost..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan