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This is something for the guys with the 115v welders. If you're tired of people telling you what you CAN'T do, this is one you CAN do. All 11ga material, well suited for small welders.About 80% of the steel is cut. Was a nice day, one in a million for this time of year. Highs in the 70's here. It's a day to thank your parents for creating you, if you're a young person. And it's a day to savor, if you're getting older.So far, this deal has chewed up 60 feet of tubing, with about another 35 feet to go (roughly).Gonna be a water tank protector for pee wee calves. Something to prevent the older cows from drinking the water in the smaller tank meant for the pee wee's. Pretty much like a creep feeder.K'kins put her foot down.........it's time to do it. She has a thing for her little girls. They always wind up on the short end of the stick when it comes to water. Only thing they can drink from is a 12" high tank, not tall enough to drink from the regular stock tank. The bigun's knock the little ones out of the way, and drink it all up before the little ones can get a share."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Cool man I'm sure it will be top notch from you!!
Reply:Great idea ... I'll be watching this.
Reply:'Bout time ya' took care of other than young bulls! Betcha Kelly will have you making bunny wabbit waterers and birdie feeders soon. Last edited by WyoRoy; 01-26-2015 at 06:27 PM.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersamm They always wind up on the short end of the stick when it comes to water. Only thing they can drink from is a 12" high tank, not tall enough to drink from the regular stock tank. The bigun's knock the little ones out of the way, and drink it all up before the little ones can get a share.
Reply:great day out here to...about 40*.....and that is really hot (for Minnesota)
Reply:I don't understand why there is so much derision heaped on 110v MIG. For doing small stuff, up to 1/4" they work great. Good luck on your project, keep the young'ns heathy!Be wary of The Numbers: Figures don't lie,. but liars can figure.Welders:2008 Lincoln 140 GMAW&FCAW2012 HF 165 'toy' GTAW&SMAW1970's Cobbled together O/A
Reply:Originally Posted by mike837goI don't understand why there is so much derision heaped on 110v MIG. For doing small stuff, up to 1/4" they work great. Good luck on your project, keep the young'ns heathy!
Reply:Originally Posted by mike837goI don't understand why there is so much derision heaped on 110v MIG. For doing small stuff, up to 1/4" they work great. Good luck on your project, keep the young'ns heathy!
Reply:Been nice up here too, some of our last foot of snow even melted down a bit last week. You've had some serious shrapnel coming off that chop saw. With the dry grass aren't you afraid of starting a fire? Maybe it's time to consider some type of metal shield to protect the container and capture the sparks. I've only got 2 horses here so the only water trough is an old bathtub (damn 80's colors had to go) equipped with a floating heater, but you've got me interested. Nice rack....LOL...can't believe I just said that to another man!Last edited by whtbaron; 01-27-2015 at 10:48 AM.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI didn't mean to be derisive. I just wanted small welder owners to feel good about their machines. The small machines do a huge amount of work, and are good for valuable projects. You don't always need 6 Billion amps to do stuff that's worthwhile.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauAre you going to be doing this project with a 120 volt welder, Samm? You know, just to show the small welder guys that it can be done, and how to do it.
Reply:Finished up cutting all the pieces, then deburred the cuts. Lot of time involved.....cup brush to remove the rust and crud (these have been in the pile for about 7yrs I'd guess), cutting, then deburring.This is my answer to drilling a bunch of holes in a welding table. It's just 3" angle iron welded back to back (precisely). Gives you a nice heavy surface to clamp to, and the ability to shim it to offset any bit of unevenness in the table top.The frame is clamped, and tacked. I like to square, and tack, the first assembly, then the second assembly is a breeze.....just clamp and tack. The finicky work was already done on the first one.Now for some welds.I like to do the butt welds first, whenever possible. It locks the dimensions in. Butt weld is a bit tricky because of the knife edge involved. This is ok, but I'm thinking I'd like it a bit hotterMore in next post"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Now I'm turning the voltage up, and cutting back a bit on wire speed.It's not the appearance of the welds that are all that different, it's what I'm seeing in the puddle. At the higher voltage I'm seeing the puddle cut into the metal more. I know I've got some good heat going. Travel speed is a bit faster too. All in all......this is my ideal setting for the 11ga (bear in mind it's just my setting, yours might be different)I'm using Blue Demon Self Shielding Wire .030. My machine likes it, and it's pretty flexible (can be dialed back for thinner stuff) I just remove the MIG gas nozzle, and I'm in business......been doing it this way for many years."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI suppose so, never really thought about it. Mainly an example of the 115v capabilities I guess.
Reply:What I find my 110V MIG most useful for: Sheetmetal repair. Rocker panel and cab corner replacement on a 1982 Chevy C15 Stepside. (Not mine, so disregard the hideous color combinations.) Millermatic 130, .023 wire, 100% CO2. Vertical up on 20 gauge steel. Attached ImagesMiller Thunderbolt AC/DC (Sold)Miller Dialarc 250HFMiller MM251Miller MM200 (Sold)Miller MM130Miller Spot WelderVictor O/A rigMiller Spoolmatic 1 (Sold)
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawLet me fix that for you... up to 1/8" they work great
Reply:Originally Posted by mike837goGrrrrrrrr.I've got a miller 140c that I have welded 1/4" square tube to 3/16" truck frame. It was slow and the machine was maxed out. 3 years of out in the weather and occasional overloading: no cracks yet.I did debate between the MIG and my 220v 190a stick for that project.Sooooo, we can debate the meaning of "works great" as much as we want. I've always felt that as long as the machine was still performing properly after it was maxed out, it worked great. Nit picking and pedantic comments welcome.
Reply:Short circuit MIG is not recognized by the AWS as a structural process, period. Regardless of how big the machine is.You didn't build that.'85 Miller AEAD-200LE
Reply:When you've got your MIG (not flux cored) machine dialed in and hold the gap just right, the arc is melting the base metal and your filler. Watch the puddle to control weave and travel speed. It is soooooo cool to point the ball of plasma (current-carrying melting end of the filler) at each side of the base metal to melt each, in turn and back. Not having to try and see the puddle past the flux burning off the rod. Argon Rules!(Yes, I am quite partial to MIG and TIG)Sorry for high jacking this thread. How's the calf waterer coming along?Be wary of The Numbers: Figures don't lie,. but liars can figure.Welders:2008 Lincoln 140 GMAW&FCAW2012 HF 165 'toy' GTAW&SMAW1970's Cobbled together O/A
Reply:Originally Posted by anickodeShort circuit MIG is not recognized by the AWS as a structural process, period. Regardless of how big the machine is.
Reply:While I agree that 110 machines can get a bad rap for me it would be slow. When I used the mm175 it was slow I could kick the thermal protector welding 11ha if you had everything tacked and rest to go.Millermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:its reconized around my area in weld testing i just did a mig hard wire test open root weld the root is in short circuit but after that the machine gets crankedHigh Octane Welding
Reply:There's been the usual weather problems. This time it's been high winds, and dry vegetation. Not a lot of welding when it's like this. I keep the area wet, using a garden hose, but anything more than a bit of tacking/grinding is risky.Some tips on tacking square tubing (or any other type of stuff I guess).It's seldom that your cut ends are absolutely square. So it's hard to just clamp a piece, and hope it's properly fit.I set a piece in place, and determine where the high side is when the piece is approximately squared. Them place a tack on the low side (the side where there's no gap), DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE. In the middle prevents the piece from shrinking to one side or the other, ie. rocking. This tack, because it's on the tight side will form your hinge for squaring the piece.So now we have an obvious gap to deal with.I keep a sacrificial screw driver ground to a sharp wedge. Place the tip into the gap to keep it from closing when tacked. Tacks generate an incredible amount of shrinkage. Tack on both sides of the wedge, and you're home free. The gap won't close while finish welding. You now have a properly fit joint.The uprights have been tacked to the bottom piece, and the top piece will be attached to the uprights today if the wind dies down a bit."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:The basic cage will be made from cattle panel.I like this stuff. It's cheap, and can be used for gates, corral panels, and a host of other things."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/Never have had one of these pop out of the pickup bed, but I still keep a close eye on it while driving"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:That would be quite the sight if one were to pop out of the truck bed. LolMiller 180SDLincoln weld pak 180Hobart 250ciMill Lathe
Reply:I see you keep two Fords around in order not to have undue downtime waiting for one to get fixed. Hood up in the first shot for the typical Ford shot. Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Are those steel saw horses?
Reply:Originally Posted by engineer1984Are those steel saw horses?
Reply:While I'm at it (munching some Tyson frozen chicken nuggets.....blechhhhhhhhhh) I'm reminded of Star TrekCaptain Kirk; "More power Scotty!! Give me MORE POWER!!!!"Doing the finish welding today, despite the wind, and I'm looking longingly at the LN-25. One might even say lustfully. Tearfully, with pleading eyes. ON MY KNEES.Back to it"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammWhile I'm at it (munching some Tyson frozen chicken nuggets.....blechhhhhhhhhh) I'm reminded of Star TrekCaptain Kirk; "More power Scotty!! Give me MORE POWER!!!!"
Reply:Tyson frozen chicken nuggets? Sambo, you're gonna be an Okie wanabee non grata at Sonic! Crap like that is the reason Furrs is pulling out...Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Originally Posted by mike837goI don't understand why there is so much derision heaped on 110v MIG. For doing small stuff, up to 1/4" they work great. Good luck on your project, keep the young'ns heathy!
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawLet me fix that for you... up to 1/8" they work great
Reply:Thanks for the thread Farmersam...Wished you would do youtube vids but thats a bit different
Reply:No one is denying the usefulness of 110 welders but not everyone who owns one is capable of making proper welds on material at the top end of its rated capacity. Granted a dynasty or mm252 doesn't necessarily guarantee a proper weld eitherMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Hey FarmerSamm, I've been cursing the weather too, but up here it's the wind, ice and snow. I'll have to send some down to you to keep the grass fires under control. As for the metal coming out of the Ford pickup, I would recommend strapping it in. I've seen a 1,200 gallon plastic water tank fly out of a grain truck box in a good cross wind. Never would have believed it to be possible if I hadn't seen it. No way to get it back in without a loader either. I like the Fords...got a few old ones around here too.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Originally Posted by RoadhunterSo you are saying that Lincoln is lying about the capacity of the machine?http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln-E...14-1/1006709343/16 in. single-pass or 5/16 in. multi-pass welding capacity with flux-cored wire
Reply:Well, I'm getting the results I expected. WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING I'm maxed out on all the remaining finish welds. After a few minutes of welding (which translates to quite a few 2" welds), the output gets noticeably weaker. The machine is heating up. Not severely, not enough to trip either a breaker or internal thermal overload, but enough to see/feel/hear the difference in the puddle. Again, this isn't a bad thing, I'm used to it, after all.......I've owned this machine for about 12yrs or so. Not a bad thing though, it's a little machine. Have a cigarette, go in the house to warm up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and all's well again.The heat is adequate for 11ga. Nothing wrong here, good heat. Remember though.........this is flux core. Flux core has better penetration. My suggestion is to use flux core with heavier material, even though you might not like running it. It's messy, and sometimes hard to handle unless you're used to it.Bead appearance is...........................................well. .................bead appearanceWelding speed is very slow. This can be expected with .030, and although it's a PITA, it's acceptable.Flat fillets stretch the machine to the max. This is to be expected too. Solid metal on both sides of the weld. It soaks up heat.Butt welds are very nice. Plenty of available heat for the job.Uphill welds are also very nice. The heat builds as the weld progresses upwards.I feel that this machine is more than adequate for 11ga. I'd not use it on anything thicker without some reservation, but that's just me. I always cringe when I hear people say that you can bevel your way to more amps. Beveling isn't a substitution for penetration, it's merely a way to get a larger weld surface. It doesn't increase available heat.I feel that these are nice machines. One of these, and a stick welder, will do most anything any small shop would see coming through the door. It works well in my situation, and I do a broad array of things with these two machines."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Anyways......the main frame is done. Today I'll do the well for the water tank, side mesh, and hopefully the adjustable bars on the entrance.I'm about 3/16 out of square on the front side, it pulled while welding. Always does to some degree, it's to be expected. Probably straighten it, although it's not critical for something like this. There's a lot of joints, and longer slender pieces, so some pulling is always a problem. 11ga is well within the range of most small rosebuds that a lot of guys have, so it's not an issue."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Hmmm....no Fords in those last shots you posted Sambo...they all go **** up??Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:They're all resting RoyMucho better lunchee today though. BBQ pulled pork K'kins took pity on me, and brought some home on her way from work yesterday evening. I love her Roy. She takes care of me, and TOLERATES me too"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Back to it, gotta fire up the BEAST, and start pushing some wireTake care, and keep warmAND KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT BMI"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by RoadhunterThere is definitely an issue with professional welders when they discuss 110v welders. They simply can't have an adult conversation about them. From a Psychology standpoint it is really interesting to watch as no other group seems to act that insecure. Go to a tractor forum and you can talk about your compact tractors and lawn tractors and the big tractor guys never say a word. Go to a OTR truck forum and talk about a small pickup towing a light trailer and no professional drivers will say a word. Go to a welding forum and talk about 110v welders and immediately you will get all sorts of predictable responses from people who in some cases dont' even own a 110v welder or have never even used one. You will also notice the same people show up on every thread to bash. One yesterday they were comparing the weds of a $350 welder and a $6,500 welder as if it was some sort of legitimate comparison. At the time I pointed out that it would be like comparing the towing capacity of a s-10 pickup to a kenworth and acting surprised that the results are different. Same thing happens on other sites I have visited. I think it is just the usual chest thumping internet tough guy act. IF they were half as worthless as these guys make them out to be nobody would buy them. But in reality they are likely the most popular welder type in the US and are extremely useful for a variety of projects.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammThey're all resting Roy
Reply:Finished the well for the water tank. Ran into some issues with the small machine running close to its duty cycle because I didn't have time to let it cool down. Weak arc, hard starts, until I absolutely had to let it rest for a while.Flipped it off the sawhorses. 300# tipping over Actually it's not heavy enough, and will require tie down rings to keep the bull from flipping it over the fence.Attached the cattle panel to the sides. The back remains open because it's gonna be up against the fence.Still need to install a height bar to limit the size of the animals who will have access. And have to do some hold down rings."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Nice work Samm.....Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:I used to have the same machine....Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024 |
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