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Hey guys if anyone here is a union boilermaker or pipefitter I was wondering who generally does more nuke, powerplant, and pressure jobs?
Reply:I am niether but I will say I do not ever remember a boilermaker in a nuke plant. As far as other power plants they are both there a lot. The boilermakers are there mostly during boiler outages and only work on the boiler. The Pipe fitters do the work on all the piping in the powerplants. On new construction they are both there. I am sure they use boilermakers at a nuke also but I have never seen one there myself.
Reply:Originally Posted by thegaryI am niether but I will say I do not ever remember a boilermaker in a nuke plant. As far as other power plants they are both there a lot. The boilermakers are there mostly during boiler outages and only work on the boiler. The Pipe fitters do the work on all the piping in the powerplants. On new construction they are both there. I am sure they use boilermakers at a nuke also but I have never seen one there myself.
Reply:Boilermakers do nuke work as well. I know some guys in Illinois at a nuke outage right now. Around here the boilermakers do the ice condenser work.
Reply:Thanks for the replies guys. Lots of stuff to think about. Much appreciated. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
Reply:What's the difference between a boilermaker and a pipefitter? Some of ya'll might get this.Big F**king HammerJumper cables & 2 marine batteriesJaws of life
Reply:i almost joined the boilermakers back in TN at the constant urging of my good friend (20 years in) ... I went down and tried to talk to them about it to get some info and the head d1ckhead tossed a packet on the counter, said "bring that back within 7 days", turned around and walked off.i spoke to my buddy about it and he said dont bother joining that local ... it was getting closed in two weeks because of the ridiculous mismanagement and infighting.  two weeks later, the mother charter took over (3 hours away) and locked the doors.that put a bad taste in my mouth for union work.AWS CWI xxxx21711968 SA200  Originally Posted by WelderMike  I hate being bipolar, It's awesome.
Reply:I have worked for Teamsters and International Union of Elevator Constructors. Both AFL CIO. Some of the laziest sorriest SOB I have ever known where my so called Brothers. If you work in a RIGHT TO WORK STATE Unions hold no power a lot of bark and no bite but are over eager every quarter to collect dues.
Reply:I knew boilermaker, and pipe fitters, and if you want to make a couple million dollars and retire with a monthly income higher than 1/2 of the working people are earning. then go union . Yes unions have bitten them selves on the *** more than a few times , but the members need to know when to concede on work rules ,to stay alive .cat did not! Auto workers did .
Reply:Originally Posted by rschreckWhat's the difference between a boilermaker and a pipefitter? Some of ya'll might get this.
Reply:I am a boilermaker. We work in the nukes all the time. A boilermaker works from the  first flange and everything inside a vessel. Not just boilers but towers stacks condensers cokers heaters and most of the tube work at the nukes. The money is good but be prepared to travel. The pension is great . A boily that has worked for a single company or very steady makes over $8000 a month in pension. I **** you not. It is dirtier work than pipefitting and alot of the work is confined space. But yea the union bigshots can be real dicks. Every union has them.
Reply:D Originally Posted by BD1PIPEFITTERS are SKILLED TRADESMEN ! ''  retire with a monthly income higher than 1/2 of the working people are earning then go union''. YES SIR, I agree,
Reply:Originally Posted by gxbxcI knew boilermaker, and pipe fitters, and if you want to make a couple million dollars and retire with a monthly income higher than 1/2 of the working people are earning. then go union . Yes unions have bitten them selves on the *** more than a few times , but the members need to know when to concede on work rules ,to stay alive .cat did not! Auto workers did .
Reply:Like usual, there's Lots of mis information being given out in this thread about unions. Like usual, it's by the people who have no Union experience.Boilermakers do just that. They construct and maintain boiler systems. Pipe fitters construct and maintain process piping systems.Ironworkers local 720 JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Originally Posted by rampant racingD Do you really want to start that? Lol local 128 boilermaker.
Reply:Originally Posted by snoeproeLike usual, there's Lots of mis information being given out in this thread about unions. Like usual, it's by the people who have no Union experience.Boilermakers do just that. They construct and maintain boiler systems. Pipe fitters construct and maintain process piping systems.Ironworkers local 720
Reply:Some of us don't toe the political line.  I hate how my Union reps in DC tell me how to vote so I vote how I want. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLong after the price is forgotten, the quality will remain.Both of my Poppy's 1954 Short Hoods -Third generation to weld with it and teaching a fourthSA 2## - Bought and sold more than I can remember or care to list, 8 in the shop right now
Reply:They can bring in all the chinese  and indians they want. Who will buy the cars? Plus that will start a bloodbath . Trust me .seen it already.
Reply:Originally Posted by jmaySoon most states will be a right to work state. Union will reach the point that manufactures will ship in INDIAN or Chinese or whoever to do those jobs at @ a fraction. Unions are dying and they are slow smothering themselves themselves with greed. Sorry if the truth offends. I once felt like you also but have had my eyes opened.
Reply:Originally Posted by rampant racingI am a boilermaker. We work in the nukes all the time. A boilermaker works from the  first flange and everything inside a vessel. Not just boilers but towers stacks condensers cokers heaters and most of the tube work at the nukes.
Reply:Originally Posted by snoeproeYou had some bad experiences. That's too bad you couldn't pull your weight. You really think your government will allow local manufactures to bring in a pile of foreign workers to back stab home grown citizens? Talk about Mis information. Like I said....
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1PIPEFITTERS are SKILLED TRADESMEN ! ''  retire with a monthly income higher than 1/2 of the working people are earning then go union''. YES SIR, I agree,
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1PIPEFITTERS are SKILLED TRADESMEN ! ''  retire with a monthly income higher than 1/2 of the working people are earning then go union''. YES SIR, I agree,
Reply:While I will agree that there are a few things about unions that are bad.  It truly amazes me how many people have obviously forgotten the history of how big corporations exploited their workers before unions.  You are niave if you think that they won't do the same thing again without them.  It seems a remarkable coincidence that the weakening of unions and the loss of the middle class have happened at the same time....... Be careful what you wish for!!!!   IMHO.....
Reply:I run a non-union shop, and work beside union workers most days. I find unions turn people into "it's not my job" type of people, some are lazy, can't/won't do enough work in the run of a day. If you think an employer is exploiting a worker by asking him/her to do a task not related to the general job description of that employee was hired for, you are part of the problem of no job or work that we have today. Not all union workers are ,but some are like that and if they weren't in the union they would be long gone! You don't like what management tells you?...............go cry to the union and file a grivence.  Maybe it's just here in Canada......but I doubt that very much!Last edited by BrianC; 03-27-2016 at 09:16 AM.Originally Posted by DcraftWhile I will agree that there are a few things about unions that are bad.  It truly amazes me how many people have obviously forgotten the history of how big corporations exploited their workers before unions.  You are niave if you think that they won't do the same thing again without them.  It seems a remarkable coincidence that the weakening of unions and the loss of the middle class have happened at the same time....... Be careful what you wish for!!!!   IMHO.....
Reply:Originally Posted by BrianCIf you think an employer is exploiting a worker by asking him/her to do a task not related to the general job description of that employee was hired for, you are part of the problem of no job or work that we have today.
Reply:[QUOTE=Dcraft;7050931]If you are paying that employee extra (above and beyond his normal pay) to do that work then no that wouldn't be exploiting him.  But if you expect him to do it without, then yes that is the EXACT definition of exploitation.  You don't hire a plumber to come to your house and fix a pipe, then while he is there have him work on your car.  It is not his job it's not what you hired him to do.  We are talking about skilled labor here.  If you pay a person to do a job (what you describe in the job description) then that is the job you should expect him to do! Not his job plus some other job so that you can save money or make more profit (which the employee doesn't benefit from) by not hiring another person.I'm not talking about a plumber fixing a car,I'm talking about the person cleaning up behind them, not leaving it to "the cleaner".   Unions forget that the business isn't owned by the union,although they would like to think it is. I don't see many union people helping out a business to stay going in tough times. The business folds, they walk away,the owner who likely struggled to start it,loses everything.
Reply:I do not like the politics of the unions. I for one union member do not follow their politics and do not agree with the idea that all labor is equal. To a die hard union member you would think all in the union are equal and anyone with half a brain knows that is not true. On the other hand those who know nothing of unions think they are all like the teachers union and other civil service unions. Both views are ridiculous.  The trade unions have very little in common with what most people think of as unions.  I do agree that union politics are way off base and there seems to be no middle ground. Socialism is going to destroy what is left of this country. To think that 43% of Dems consider themselves socialists is mind bogaling to me. If you look at the 2 political parties , the one combines people by division the other divides people by collection. The Dems have combined people with no interest in this country other than what it can do for them. Take the gay rights people and Muslims for a perfect example. In the Muslim countries the gays are put to death but yet they are alies in the Dem. party.The republicans can not agree to disagree long enough to stop these small combined outer fringe that do not give a hoot about the USA. They just quible about stuff that their party can not possibly all agree on  and lose by dividing themselves because they all do not agree on everything.
Reply:[QUOTE=BrianC;7051221] Originally Posted by DcraftIf you are paying that employee extra (above and beyond his normal pay) to do that work then no that wouldn't be exploiting him.  But if you expect him to do it without, then yes that is the EXACT definition of exploitation.  You don't hire a plumber to come to your house and fix a pipe, then while he is there have him work on your car.  It is not his job it's not what you hired him to do.  We are talking about skilled labor here.  If you pay a person to do a job (what you describe in the job description) then that is the job you should expect him to do! Not his job plus some other job so that you can save money or make more profit (which the employee doesn't benefit from) by not hiring another person.I'm not talking about a plumber fixing a car,I'm talking about the person cleaning up behind them, not leaving it to "the cleaner".   Unions forget that the business isn't owned by the union,although they would like to think it is. I don't see many union people helping out a business to stay going in tough times. The business folds, they walk away,the owner who likely struggled to start it,loses everything.
Reply:Originally Posted by DcraftIf you are paying that employee extra (above and beyond his normal pay) to do that work then no that wouldn't be exploiting him.  But if you expect him to do it without, then yes that is the EXACT definition of exploitation.  You don't hire a plumber to come to your house and fix a pipe, then while he is there have him work on your car.  It is not his job it's not what you hired him to do.  We are talking about skilled labor here.  If you pay a person to do a job (what you describe in the job description) then that is the job you should expect him to do! Not his job plus some other job so that you can save money or make more profit (which the employee doesn't benefit from) by not hiring another person.And you honestly believe without organized labor that OSHA and modern labor laws will continue to protect the rights of the regular worker?  Most companies would do away with OSHA and modern labor laws right now if they could, but organized labor (the evil unions) keep that from happening.  Like I said before "careful what you wish for".
Reply:I hate to ask this.....whats wrong with osha? Lock out tag out, fall protection, arc flash protection and so on are all great things and i personally would not work on a machine without them. Safety glasses and ear plugs are also great things. I'm sorry if these things inconvenience anyone..if they do I'm glad i work nowhere near you.Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by jmayYou believe the unions keep OSHA afloat? I guess your probably right. Unions Vote dems then dems impliment socialistic long arms of gov to pry around and cripple democracy. So I guess your right. They support OSHA, CARB, EPA, PITA, GAY marriage, abortion, and gun control, force obamacare on people, Muslim sympathy, cut nuke deals with country that openly chant death to America. So when you pay your Union guess what you support all those things I listed above. How you say? Because your union supports the dem party with donations for lobbying an promoting union friendly dems. So when you vote dem you support all the things liste above don't. Believe Me go check it out it easy to find.So unions = dems= gay marriage, gun control, and abortions. Regardless of how you vote your dues are helping dems.
Reply:So guess you prefer your dem option. Let's see Hillary lied about Ben Ghazi, under investigation for criminal fraud while Sec of State, supports gay marriage, wants healthcare for illegals, anti gun, supports abortion, and could face jail time for all the lies. Then you got UNCLE BERNIE he openly promotes socialism enough said. Trump ain't looking to bad.Did you see your pres vacationing with a COMMUNIST DICTATOR on your dime? That's how far this country has slid and a % of every cent of your dues help fund it. Good New is it's not too late. Whe get this Country right but people must wake up and support what's morally right.
Reply:This thread turned real quickly. Lol.. I just hope people keep voting for natural resources so welders continue to have jobs in the future. Anyways thanks for the info guys much appreciated as always. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
Reply:Just to think, the original question was: Originally Posted by jkwright13Hey guys if anyone here is a union boilermaker or pipefitter I was wondering who generally does more nuke, powerplant, and pressure jobs?
Reply:Amen. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by jmaySo guess you prefer your dem option. Let's see Hillary lied about Ben Ghazi, under investigation for criminal fraud while Sec of State, supports gay marriage, wants healthcare for illegals, anti gun, supports abortion, and could face jail time for all the lies. Then you got UNCLE BERNIE he openly promotes socialism enough said. Trump ain't looking to bad.Did you see your pres vacationing with a COMMUNIST DICTATOR on your dime? That's how far this country has slid and a % of every cent of your dues help fund it. Good New is it's not too late. Whe get this Country right but people must wake up and support what's morally right.
Reply:[QUOTE=docwelder;7053951]morally right?? please don't use that term in the same paragraph as thrice married serial philanderer/bankrupt trump. i'm not even mentioning the fraud investigation[/QUOI don't like it but I can stomach it better than a lady thirst for power has American soldiers blood on her hands and could care less in the investigation lied under oath I think that is perjury don't you. Vote foe who you want it's your right. Don't complain about illegals, Muslims radicals, abortion, don't cry when they take your guns, don't cry when the hike tobacco tax, do cry when Iran touches of a nuke on Israel and Isis is practicing genocide on Christians.
Reply:Originally Posted by jkwright13Hey guys if anyone here is a union boilermaker or pipefitter I was wondering who generally does more nuke, powerplant, and pressure jobs?
Reply:Originally Posted by jmayI am out. Live long and prosper.
Reply:It's all good guys. No hard feelings. I could talk about religion and politics all day so I understand. I just wanted to know if you boilermakers and pipe fitters were overall happy with your occupation and which one did more power plant/nuke work. Thanks for all the replies. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by snoeproeYou had some bad experiences. That's too bad you couldn't pull your weight. You really think your government will allow local manufactures to bring in a pile of foreign workers to back stab home grown citizens? Talk about Mis information. Like I said....
Reply:yup all that stuff too lol....ps I said stacks lol Originally Posted by Rock knockerAnd ships, tanks and all the ducting from a boiler including the precips, scrubbers, quench reactors and the stacks.