Question on stick lead connectors, twist lock style

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I've been searching on google for an hour or so now and can't seem to come up with what I'm looking for. I've got two engine driven welders I'm working on and a couple of projects in mind that are going to need leads. Rather than having to buy 3-4 sets of leads it makes more sense to me to have one set that I can move to whichever welder I want to use, so I want to use something like this to connect to the machine. MALE-DINSE-CONNECTORS Problem is that I can't seem to find anything other than panel mounts for the female side. I have seen the female side of those terminals that attaches to the lug post on older machines, but I can't seem to find any. I know what I'm looking for exists because I've seen them on machines in person, and they didn't have several inches of cable between the lug and the female connector. I'm stumped, anyone know what I'm talking about?
Reply:Do you have Jackson, Tweco, or Lenco male type connectors now? All three female mates are readily available usually on Ebay.SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:I don't have any connectors right now. The machines aren't useable yet, though one is close. The closest thing I've been able to find had probably 8-10" of cable between the copper lug connector and the twist lock. I don't want that since I'll end up crushing one or both when I move a machine on or off a trailer/truck bed/etc., and I don't want to replace the lugs on the machines with panel mount sockets.That's a monster Onan genset in your signature. You a contractor, or powering the whole neighborhood?
Reply:You looking for something like this?http://www.amazon.com/Lenco-05436-Ld.../dp/B00AB2HPE6If so, cut cable to your desired length and crimp lugs on the other end.GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:Finally found what I'm looking for, although I'd bet Tweco/Lenco/etc. sell them cheaper. http://store.cyberweld.com/tigtopoad1th.html That one is for 50mm Dinse, which mates with the male connector I posted a link to earlier.
Reply:I think this is what you want , http://airgas.com/medias/Product-JAC...WQwZDk0Yjc5YmUhttp://gproadwaysolutions.com/manufa...eo/page66.htmlhttp://www.amazon.com/Jackson-Safety.../dp/B00982XB5Chttp://www.homelectrical.com/angled-...m_campaign=CPC
Reply:Originally Posted by machinisttxI don't have any connectors right now. The machines aren't useable yet, though one is close. The closest thing I've been able to find had probably 8-10" of cable between the copper lug connector and the twist lock. I don't want that since I'll end up crushing one or both when I move a machine on or off a trailer/truck bed/etc., and I don't want to replace the lugs on the machines with panel mount sockets.That's a monster Onan genset in your signature. You a contractor, or powering the whole neighborhood?
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1I think this is what you want , http://airgas.com/medias/Product-JAC...WQwZDk0Yjc5YmUhttp://gproadwaysolutions.com/manufa...eo/page66.htmlhttp://www.amazon.com/Jackson-Safety.../dp/B00982XB5Chttp://www.homelectrical.com/angled-...m_campaign=CPC
Reply:Originally Posted by machinisttx . . . The closest thing I've been able to find had probably 8-10" of cable between the copper lug connector and the twist lock. I don't want that since I'll end up crushing one or both when I move a machine on or off a trailer/truck bed/etc. . . .
Reply:Originally Posted by machinisttxThat's pretty much it. Added to my welding bookmarks. 40kw is a pretty large set. Last one I saw that was that size had a Ford 300 inline six as the engine. I've got a 6.5kw Onan that will power my entire house and probably my parents as well at the same time. I'll look at the Tweco style as well. I'm not sure what the local shops carry. It'd be nice if I could run to town and pick one up in the event I damage one and really need to weld.
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepI don't know... but if things are packed that tightly, you still may be headed for trouble. The lugs are actually quite bulky and with some machines probably would protrude into your crush zone more so than a flat terminal and short cable. Bump or snag the "twist lug" and panel damage is likely.
Reply:Originally Posted by machinisttxThe machines I have are Lincoln Weldanpower 225's. The work/electrode connections on the side are pretty close to the bottom of the machine and it would be inevitable that something dangling off the machine would end up getting caught when moving, something being moved close to it, or having the machine set on it. That's just how things end up happening for me, and generally at the worst time. The twist locks I've seen on local machines(the ones I want) didn't protrude much, if any from the lug mount area, and my connections are recessed a bit more than they were on those machines.
Reply:Odd that it's Weldenpower, because I was thinking about how in my opinion a Weldenpower would be typical of a machine that should NOT have a "twist lug" terminal installed directly to its terminal stud. Okay, maybe a light compact size 1 in a gentle environment. But for quick connecting  larger sizes, or in a rough environment, I vote for short whips.It's not just the lug. Connect a 2/0 cable with its weight and bulky twist connector... suddenly there are two huge "catch all" appendages with a lot of weight and leverage hanging on studs and insulators that just aren't designed for it. One bump or a tug on a tangled mess of lead, and oops there goes the stud's mount.IMHO, of courseLast edited by denrep; 01-09-2015 at 02:06 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepI vote for short whips.It's not just the lug. Connect a 2/0 cable with its weight and bulky twist connector... suddenly there are two huge "catch all" appendages with a lot of weight and leverage hanging on studs and insulators that just aren't designed for it. One bump or a tug on a tangled mess of lead, and oops there goes the stud's mount.
Reply:These are what I have on my bobcat I do take my leads off and they go in the toolbox so they don't walk away
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepOdd that it's Weldenpower, because I was thinking about how in my opinion a Weldenpower would be typical of a machine that should NOT have a "twist lug" terminal installed directly to its terminal stud. Okay, maybe a light compact size 1 in a gentle environment. But for quick connecting  larger sizes, or in a rough environment, I vote for short whips.It's not just the lug. Connect a 2/0 cable with its weight and bulky twist connector... suddenly there are two huge "catch all" appendages with a lot of weight and leverage hanging on studs and insulators that just aren't designed for it. One bump or a tug on a tangled mess of lead, and oops there goes the stud's mount.IMHO, of course