A few words about lift arc tig.

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Its stupid. Why would anyone want to go through that? The rebel if you hook up the foot pedal you still have to hit a button on the torch, push the pedal down and lift the torch! Good thing i only bought this to mig with.Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
Reply:When I tried the Rebel out I opened the gas valve, touched the tungsten, pressed the pedal, lifted and away we go.
Reply:Originally Posted by TigMonsterIts stupid. Why would anyone want to go through that?
Reply:Originally Posted by John TYeah,I'm not all that thrilled with scratch start either... especially snapping out without a crater.. just ordered an arcpig....  see if that helps. looks cool... If nothing else...
Reply:Not sure Big BIt's basically an inline arc starterFor stick or TigLots of information on their websiteSent from my iPhone using TapatalkMiller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221  True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:Lift arc...it's better than a scratch start, (at least in theory) if the machine actually does a good job of sensing the low open current voltage before changing to high voltage JUST milliseconds after it looses continuity when you lift off. Haven't tried the rebel however getting into that mode does seem a bit awkward, other manufacturers just have an on/off switch for lift arc.RyanMiller Multimatic 200 tig/spool gun/wireless remoteMillermatic 350P, Bernard/XR Python gunsMiller Dynasty 350, Coolmate 3.5 & wireless remoteCK WF1 TIG wire feederMiller Spectrum 375 XtremeOptrel e684Miller Digital EliteMiller Weld-Mask
Reply:Originally Posted by bigbDo you think the arc pig would be worthwhile for my Maxstar 150 lift arc? I do have a foot pedal but currently my tig skill level is pretty bad.
Reply:Originally Posted by John TYeah,I'm not all that thrilled with scratch start either... especially snapping out without a crater.. just ordered an arcpig....  see if that helps. looks cool... If nothing else...
Reply:It took me a little time to get accustomed to lift arc on my Rebel(without foot switch) I think if I had not had the shakes from 4 cups of coffee I could have shortened my learning curve by 50%.It's hard to weld when you can't see.
Reply:Not a pro weldor here .... not even close .... but I have had to use the lift start feature on my Syncrowave 210 a few times when it was not convenient to use the pedal. It seemed to work fine once I figured out how to program the machine for lift vs HF start. There's no foot pedal involved when I switch it to lift start.
Reply:I'm not all that thrilled with scratch start either... especially snapping out without a crater..
Reply:Originally Posted by MeltedmetalYou might get more out of a switch to cut off your arc like Jody built in one of his videos so you don't lose your gas coverage. Or he has so good tips here. http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/...tig-tips2.html
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI say no, the arc pig will not do you any good in your situation.  Lift start while using a foot control is much easier than old school scratch start.Practice is the key to tig happiness
Reply:Originally Posted by wnywelderI have always felt that the whole benefit to lift arc or scratch start is that you dont have to be tied down by the foot pedal. For that matter...lift or scratch is all the same to me. I've passed x-ray with both, and it's not that hard...just takes a little practice.
Reply:A torch switch would be super awesome sometimes, I agree. I used a miller maxstar a bit with a huge switch that was rather unwieldy, not a fan of it. One built into the torch might be nice though. Sent from my SM-G900V using TapatalkIAMAW Local 330Airco 300 AC/DC HeliwelderAirco Dip-Pak 200 with Profax spool gunPowr-Kraft AC225Everlast PowerArc 200stBuffalo Forge No.21 drill pressSpeedglas 9100xxAirco, Oxweld, Purox, Victor torchesLincoln Ranger 8
Reply:I've passed multiple pressure pipe tig welding tests with scratch start. That's all that was available. For those of you who say you can't weld with scratch or lift start, that's just your inexperience talking. But, it is no excuse. Sharpen up your skills boys.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:AgreedSent from my SM-G900V using TapatalkIAMAW Local 330Airco 300 AC/DC HeliwelderAirco Dip-Pak 200 with Profax spool gunPowr-Kraft AC225Everlast PowerArc 200stBuffalo Forge No.21 drill pressSpeedglas 9100xxAirco, Oxweld, Purox, Victor torchesLincoln Ranger 8
Reply:Scratch tig is used every day in heavy industry. My uncle welded hi pressure pipes in nuclear power plants with scratch tig.
Reply:Originally Posted by kctgbScratch tig is used every day in heavy industry. My uncle welded hi pressure pipes in nuclear power plants with scratch tig.
Reply:Lift is a step up compared to scratch. In industry and construction you work with what you get, if you can't get it done, they don't keep you around. It's as simple as that. You can spend all the money you have for a fancy home use tig welder however, a skilled operator doesn't need all that stuff.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Originally Posted by TigMonsterLift is stupid.
Reply:Never had a problem with lift tig!