Dynasty 200 DX high frequency start

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Hey guysI got my dynasty back from being repaired and had a quick question, I am new to TIG welding so bare with me. I have it set for high frequency start and I don't think its working properly.   I have seen videos where the high freq jumps a long stringy spark like a spark plug wire on a car. But when starting I have to get the Tungsten as close as a 1/8" and sometimes that is not close enough. I did notice if the tungsten is very clean that seems to help. So my question is how close do I have to be? Is there something I am missing? I have it set to HF start, there is not anything else i need to do is there? Thanks
Reply:Dynasties use a different method of hf start.  Should be .100" or less off work piece.  Press pedal.  Go time.  On dc it should pop.  Literally.  The arc will make a pop sound.Miller Dynasty 200DXMiller Spectrum 250DMiller Millermatic 200Bunch of old blue dinosaurs....
Reply:Originally Posted by jontheturboguyDynasties use a different method of hf start.  Should be .100" or less off work piece.  Press pedal.  Go time.  On dc it should pop.  Literally.  The arc will make a pop sound.
Reply:Dynasties can be affected by a dirty tungsten. They don't start well when it's dirty and will tend to give little popping sounds instead of starting. This is especially true of the older Dynasties. Sometimes giving more amps on the pedal will help with it's not wanting to kick right off but the proper fix is clean the tungsten. Sometimes it's as simple as scratching the tungsten on the work piece before trying to start (without the pedal being pressed).Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by KnickBut when starting I have to get the Tungsten as close as a 1/8" and sometimes that is not close enough
Reply:I have to scratch the tungsten to the work piece alot also. Seems to work
Reply:My HF will arc well over 1/8", but the HF is so quick that behind the lens, you can hardly see it.  You'll hear it snapping though.If the tungsten is contaminated, the HF will click, but the arc might not start unless you really mash the pedal down.  Same thing if your ground isn't making a good connection.
Reply:My Dynasty 200 DX's HF start will throw loud, visible arcs literally like 2 inches. The welding arc obviously won't initiate so it'll just keep cracking away until I bring it down to like 3/4" or less or whatever.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Not sure if the Dynasty hf is the same as the syncrowave But it sounds like the points need to be adjusted.Miller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221  True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:Originally Posted by John TNot sure if the Dynasty hf is the same as the syncrowave
Reply:Originally Posted by rlitmanIt is not.  For starters, The Dynasty does not have continuous HF.  It just sends pulses of HF until the arc is started.There are points though, and if they get clogged with dust, the HF will no longer work.  You could try blowing the machine out with compressed air.
Reply:Check your ground Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:Check your arc start window. What does it say?Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Knick,You just got it back from the repair shop, take it back and have them check it for you. You paid for a repair and it should work.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:Originally Posted by KnickHey guysI got my dynasty back from being repaired and had a quick question, I am new to TIG welding so bare with me. I have it set for high frequency start and I don't think its working properly.   I have seen videos where the high freq jumps a long stringy spark like a spark plug wire on a car. But when starting I have to get the Tungsten as close as a 1/8" and sometimes that is not close enough. I did notice if the tungsten is very clean that seems to help. So my question is how close do I have to be? Is there something I am missing? I have it set to HF start, there is not anything else i need to do is there? Thanks
Reply:well its a 2009 so maybe mine wont give that long stringy spark like I have seen others do. I have noticed Tungsten being clean make a big difference. It seems like it harder to get a arc started on DC, I have checked and ground is good. I am going to try grinding the metal (just wired brushed before) and see what that does. Shovelon I not sure what you mean by start amps. I set the max amps and push the pedal 3/4 of the way down and sometimes it will start and other times it wont. If it doesn't start I push the pedal all the way and again sometimes it will start and other times it wont. Maybe I am not getting as close as I think. I am going to play around and see what else I can find.
Reply:Mine is from 2004 (damn, has it been that long).  The HF has always been happy to give me a long stringy spark.
Reply:Originally Posted by Knickwell its a 2009 so maybe mine wont give that long stringy spark like I have seen others do. I have noticed Tungsten being clean make a big difference. It seems like it harder to get a arc started on DC, I have checked and ground is good. I am going to try grinding the metal (just wired brushed before) and see what that does. Shovelon I not sure what you mean by start amps. I set the max amps and push the pedal 3/4 of the way down and sometimes it will start and other times it wont. If it doesn't start I push the pedal all the way and again sometimes it will start and other times it wont. Maybe I am not getting as close as I think. I am going to play around and see what else I can find.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonThere is an arc start menu to increase start current. Go there by pressing "A", then "Adjust" buttons in that order. First window that comes up is arc start.Do you have a manual? If not you can download one from the resources page on the MillerWelds.com site.
Reply:Originally Posted by KnickWell I did find that cleaning steel better and a freshly ground tungsten made it much better. I had one time when I did not have the ground hooked up to the table or the part I was welding and I did see the long stringy sparks. I still get times where it wont start and I just keep moving the torch around on the clean steel and it will start. Most times it will start right off. I do have the manual and I did find something about start amps but I did not see how to adjust them. I must be missing something, I have called the repair shop a few times but it was to late and I missed the Tech. I am going to run it by him, and see what he says.
Reply:Mine will jump few inches.  Normally to my hand if I'm too far away from the workpiece Dynasty200DX w/coolmate1MM210MM VintageESAB miniarc161ltsLincoln AC225Victor O/A, Smith AW1ACutmaster 81IR 2475N7.5FPRage3Jancy USA1019" SBAEAD-200LE
Reply:Wanted to post a follow up.Well after more time I found that the Tungsten, and metal played a big role. I may still play with settings but for now I think 90% of my problem was cleanliness.  Thanks again for all the help