Snap On Welders

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Who makes Snap On Welders?  I see used ones for sale all the time at ridiculous prices.  Is this another Snap On product that is made by someone else and sold by Snap On at outrageous prices?  Or, are they really good welders?
Reply:they are usually made by Century...  century is actually owned by lincoln now, from what i've seen the welders are made in italy...  and yes they are stupidly overpriced...  i would go with either hobart, thermal arc, lincoln or miller...  i've owned all of them in the past, the best welder i ever owned was a miller 252, if i had it to do over again i would still own it but that was a $3000 welder...  i sold it and bought a smaller mig and a ac/dc tig welder for what i sold it for.. i like the larger chassis machines... but the smaller migs like the hobart 210mvp, lincoln 180c, miller 211 look like pretty good deals.. the hobart 210mvp seems like nice machine for the money...Last edited by brucer; 06-11-2011 at 07:07 PM.tackleexperts.comwww.necessityjigs.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/mach...dingequipment/
Reply:I had a century 110v mig at one time, It was one of the smoothest little machines for welding on sheet metal and thinner materials. I think it was only around a 130-140amps but for sheet metal it was great. I sold it for $75 to a friend and bought a miller 251 for an outrageous deal from airgas cause it got dinged in shipping, full warranty and everything
Reply:Yep Snap-On is way overpriced...   Don't forget ESAB.  the MigMaster 250/253 are nice..Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Stay away from those Snap-On machines. Way over priced as Snap-On products always are and people reselling try to find someone stupid enough to be duped into thinking they're getting something good. They are just fine for sheet metal only but why would you buy something with serious limitations.Measure twice, cut once.Millermatic 211Millermatic 251Miller Dynasty 200DXESAB O/A Set-up
Reply:Based on physical appearances Systematics makes some of them. Can't speak for every model. http://www.800abcweld.com/"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:isn't snapon like hilti? way overpriced but has a market niche because of the onsite service?
Reply:"onsite service"Now that was a good one when speaking of welders.ONLY reason I can see that Snap On even sells the first welder, is because a lot of the guys buying "off the truck" can pay "a dollar down" and a "dollar a week for the rest of your life".  They end up paying three times what the machine is worth.As it pertains to welders, I've NEVER heard a postitive response when it comes to how well Snap On stands behind their warranty on their welders.  Actually, it's just the opposite.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:No one who is truly a welder would buy a Snap On welder or plasma cutter off of that truck. Sometimes people use no common sense when it comes to making purchases from those guys. Snap On does make some good tools and even those are overpriced. I own quite a few Snap-On specialty automotive tools but that's it.I.B.E.W Electrician and Damn Proud of It !!!! .Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit http://www.shrinershospitalsforchildren.org/
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawYep Snap-On is way overpriced...   Don't forget ESAB.  the MigMaster 250/253 are nice..
Reply:Thanks for the responses.  I figured this was the case with Snapon welders.  I am not looking to buy one, just noticed several for sale at ridiculous prices.
Reply:If you are looking for a good small/med size mig welder, this looks like a pretty good deal.http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...Product%20Page
Reply:Here is a good one also...... http://store.cyberweld.com/mil175witecc.htmlI.B.E.W Electrician and Damn Proud of It !!!! .Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit http://www.shrinershospitalsforchildren.org/
Reply:I have a friend who is a Snap-On rep, so I was able to get the following information from him:-Currently all Snap-On machines are made by Systematics.-Their sales literature gives all the capacities at 100% duty cycle.-They are very expensive.-He does not know the warranty/repair process if something goes wrong.He did say that they are really pushing the 100% duty cycle pretty hard.  I can see how that would be a pretty good selling feature, but it won't effect most people since a person can't really weld 100%.
Reply:go with a chassis welder like the hobart ironman 230 or thermal arc fabricator 210 or miller 212 or lincoln powermig 216  you wont be sorry..tackleexperts.comwww.necessityjigs.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/mach...dingequipment/
Reply:Here is a good one also...... http://store.cyberweld.com/mil175witecc.html
Reply:I already have a HH187, but am waiting to find a chassis MIG used at a good deal.
Reply:Originally Posted by morgaj1Thanks for the responses.  I figured this was the case with Snapon welders.  I am not looking to buy one, just noticed several for sale at ridiculous prices.
Reply:Snap On muscle Mig is legendary among professional welders the most consistent sharpest arc out there made from alot better parts and made to weld all day every day. www.800abcweld.com I think if you compare apples to apples which lincoln Miller or Hobart do not offer 100% duty cycle Period in any of their welders that right there says alot about whats under the label.Expensive? YES!! but worth every penny
Reply:Very misleading information:http://www.800abcweld.com/store/inde...=1&action=show
Reply:Originally Posted by JynxpakSnap On muscle Mig is legendary among professional welders the most consistent sharpest arc out there made from alot better parts and made to weld all day every day. www.800abcweld.com I think if you compare apples to apples which lincoln Miller or Hobart do not offer 100% duty cycle Period in any of their welders that right there says alot about whats under the label.Expensive? YES!! but worth every penny
Reply:Snap-On welders in the UK, are, or last have been made by Cebora. If you can pick one up for the right price you will not disappointed.Remember the world is not flat, and there are other makes than blue and red.
Reply:I don't think anybody is saying Snap On make a crap welder, just an overpriced welder.  For the money there are better choices out there, and they don't have to be blue or red, but they're included.I if Jynxpak posted while kneeling with his snap on knee pads, snap on hat turned backwards, in front of his snap on dealer, basking in the glow of his snap on led work light and stuffing dollar bills into the dealers waistband.  He obviously is drinking the kool aid so to speak.As you can tell I am not a snap on believer and also may have some pent up anger issues.Tom
Reply:This Lincoln welder shows a 100% rating (if it's not turned up all the way)Just like the snapon Not turned up all the way!http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us...incolnElectric)Just sayin. The one in Lmironworks link looks like it about 40% light. ADVERTISING isn't always what it seems to be, you have to do some homework sometimes.
Reply:The way Snap On does this is that most of their welders and plasma cutters are transformer based and underrated electrically so you can't actually see the true rating.  To give an idea of what I mean is a car rated a 200 hp but puts out 195 at the wheels is truly underrated. The welder is rated at say 200 amps but truly capable of 260 amps and has a dial the maxes at the rated 200 at 100% duty cycle. Sent from my 4G HTC Rezound  using Tapatalk 2Last edited by Sparky#1; 06-14-2012 at 12:03 PM.I.B.E.W Electrician and Damn Proud of It !!!! .Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit http://www.shrinershospitalsforchildren.org/Originally Posted by Sparky#1No one who is truly a welder would buy a Snap On welder or plasma cutter off of that truck. Sometimes people use no common sense when it comes to making purchases from those guys. Snap On does make some good tools and even those are overpriced. I own quite a few Snap-On specialty automotive tools but that's it.
Reply:I have two Snap on welders and really have nothing to complain about. I don't think I will buy a tapped machine again but that is another story.And the price is not outrages either.Last edited by mikecwik; 04-05-2015 at 04:25 PM.