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I don't regret many tool purchases I've made, after all, I like having tools
- had a couple of welders which i moved on pretty fast, I just didn't like the way they welded.- more recently, bought a big machine bed as a heavy jig table for fabricating/straightening stuff. The idea was that it's narrow enough to set up for welding out stainless trestle legs (2" x 1/8" box tube that needs a pre-set bend). I made a frame for it and put some heavy duty castors on it. Left it unpainted in case i wanted to add brackets/storage etc to the base.Since then, it's been 5 months and it's been used only because it's there. It's crazy heavy, and the tee slots are just not that good to use over a jig table with holes. The surface is recessed leaving a load less usable flat surface too. I have a batch of trestle legs coming up in the next month or so, and I'm hoping it comes in useful for those, but I'm prepared to sell it asap if it's no use for that job. Problem is, I paid a good amount for the top to start with.
Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
Reply:I think that is a great idea. I would invest a little bit more money and have the top ground flat. You can then modify a lot of your clamps so that they accommodated T slots with the ability to swivel. You can create some interesting setups that way. Just curious how much was that top?
Reply:A purchase of a 750 amp mig welder and a 44,000 pound lathe.Dave
Originally Posted by Munkul
I don't regret many tool purchases I've made, after all, I like having tools
- had a couple of welders which i moved on pretty fast, I just didn't like the way they welded.- more recently, bought a big machine bed as a heavy jig table for fabricating/straightening stuff. The idea was that it's narrow enough to set up for welding out stainless trestle legs (2" x 1/8" box tube that needs a pre-set bend). I made a frame for it and put some heavy duty castors on it. Left it unpainted in case i wanted to add brackets/storage etc to the base.Since then, it's been 5 months and it's been used only because it's there. It's crazy heavy, and the tee slots are just not that good to use over a jig table with holes. The surface is recessed leaving a load less usable flat surface too. I have a batch of trestle legs coming up in the next month or so, and I'm hoping it comes in useful for those, but I'm prepared to sell it asap if it's no use for that job. Problem is, I paid a good amount for the top to start with.
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Originally Posted by smithdoor
A purchase of a 750 amp mig welder and a 44,000 pound lathe.Dave
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Originally Posted by Weld_
I think that is a great idea. I would invest a little bit more money and have the top ground flat. You can then modify a lot of your clamps so that they accommodated T slots with the ability to swivel. You can create some interesting setups that way. Just curious how much was that top?
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Originally Posted by Munkul
. It's still 600kg of table that takes up room.
Reply:I bought a Harbor Freight reciprocating saw once that lasted all of five minutes. I got my money back, but still it was a waste of time and gas. Definitely regretted that. I also bought a vacuum brake bleeder from the local auto parts store that was totally useless. Definitely regretted that purchase. I am sure there are others, but those two came to mind first.Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:36" swing and 12.5" spindle hole.Dave
Originally Posted by Munkul
I'm sorry, HOW BIG A LATHE?haha, even the 1m swing x 5m lathes I've been to see recently are just over half that, and I thought they were big!
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Originally Posted by Louie1961
I bought a Harbor Freight reciprocating saw once that lasted all of five minutes. I got my money back, but still it was a waste of time and gas. Definitely regretted that. I also bought a vacuum brake bleeder from the local auto parts store that was totally useless. Definitely regretted that purchase. I am sure there are others, but those two came to mind first.
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Originally Posted by smithdoor
A purchase of a 750 amp mig welder and a 44,000 pound lathe.Dave
Reply:It was not long only 120" I had for turning big wheels.But have run lathes that big.Dave
Originally Posted by Oldiron2
Dave, any chance you turned the journals on the crank pictured below?
Did your lathe happen to come out of the Hendy shop pictured on the bottom where these engines were being built?
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Reply:Last yr I bought a Billy Goat power rake that weighs about 200 lbs. After using it a little it was bothering my old shoulders making turns so I clamped a couple of pieces of 2" shafting on the handles for counterweight and it was still more than I like to horse around. It doesn't have power to the wheels either so I sold it a couple of weeks ago and took a $500 bath selling it as it only had about 3 hrs on it. Guess I should have rented one first.Ol' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
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Originally Posted by Munkul
It would be better with a milled/ground top, but it's too big to fit onto most mills, and would cost me another £300.I paid £600 for it, it's about the going rate. Probably ask around £750 for it after I paint the base and make it look good, lol.I have a nice big flat jig table that gets used for everything at the moment, but the clamps are limited on clamping force where I need over 1000kg for pre-setting bends. I got some Carver machine clamps which swivel and have a capacity of 1300kg, but they have a very small throat so only useful for certain jobs.Having said all this, if the table works for pre-setting, I'll be keeping it... maybe even justifying the top machining... maybe. It's still 600kg of table that takes up room.
Reply:Since then, it's been 5 months and it's been used only because it's there. It's crazy heavy, and the tee slots are just not that good to use over a jig table with holes. The surface is recessed leaving a load less usable flat surface too.I have a batch of trestle legs coming up in the next month or so, and I'm hoping it comes in useful for those, but I'm prepared to sell it asap if it's no use for that job. Problem is, I paid a good amount for the top to start with.
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Originally Posted by Sberry
Who woulda thunk it?
Reply:I got to admis the concept is kind of cool. I can see it being a "good idea at the time".www.urkafarms.com
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Originally Posted by Sberry
I got to admis the concept is kind of cool. I can see it being a "good idea at the time".
Reply:Would this work for you? or too small?
My buddy bought it a month ago. $500cad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk:
Reply:That's a good price! It's a little short for what I have in mind. I looked at big old drill tables etc as well before I got this one.Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
Reply:Fortunately it was a small tool. I bought an AirLocker air punch in hopes of turning pallets into kindling faster than I could with the saw (and also without as much wood waste). Before I got around to using it, I started to fear many lost nails and many flat tires. So it just sits in a corner.
Reply:About the only tools I ever really regretted buying was the original cheap rechargable drills etc.... the old 8- 12 volt ones that would drill like 1 1/2 holes before they went dead. That said, I sure like the new 20v's with the 4 and 5 ah batteries.The harder you fall, the higher you bounce...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:an excerpt from Good Mental Shop Health by Dr Lis ......For good mental health it may help to eliminate the memory of a bad tool purchase. try to extinguish the bad memory by replacing it with a pleasurable one.this may be similar to what you can do after a break up or divorce.Liking it to the old saying "you can't REALLY get over one person until you get under another"Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk:
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Originally Posted by Lis2323
an excerpt from Good Mental Shop Health by Dr Lis ......For good mental health it may help to eliminate the memory of a bad tool purchase. try to extinguish the bad memory by replacing it with a pleasurable one.this may be similar to what you can do after a break up or divorce.Liking it to the old saying "you can't REALLY get over one person until you get under another"Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Originally Posted by Munkul
I don't regret many tool purchases I've made, after all, I like having tools
- had a couple of welders which i moved on pretty fast, I just didn't like the way they welded.- more recently, bought a big machine bed as a heavy jig table for fabricating/straightening stuff. The idea was that it's narrow enough to set up for welding out stainless trestle legs (2" x 1/8" box tube that needs a pre-set bend). I made a frame for it and put some heavy duty castors on it. Left it unpainted in case i wanted to add brackets/storage etc to the base.Since then, it's been 5 months and it's been used only because it's there. It's crazy heavy, and the tee slots are just not that good to use over a jig table with holes. The surface is recessed leaving a load less usable flat surface too. I have a batch of trestle legs coming up in the next month or so, and I'm hoping it comes in useful for those, but I'm prepared to sell it asap if it's no use for that job. Problem is, I paid a good amount for the top to start with.
Reply:I bought a harbor freight band saw to rebuild and re-motor, of course just sitting there bringing down the property value.I bought a strong hand 3 axis vise, that I NEVER use. Fortunately I scored it cheap off offerup.I have multiple air guns (nails and staples) that I RARELY use.
Originally Posted by SlowBlues
I have multiple air guns (nails and staples) that I RARELY use.
Reply:Dial indicator style sheet metal gauge. Looked nice, but stupid. You can just use a mic.Bathroom scale. Oh COME ON!!!!!!! Like yer ever gonna use it?????????
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
Dial indicator style sheet metal gauge. Looked nice, but stupid. You can just use a mic.Bathroom scale. Oh COME ON!!!!!!! Like yer ever gonna use it?????????
Reply:Big DeWalt plunge router and tenon-making tools...still in boxes for 15 years. Decided against making cedar furniture. One of my best friends just had his shop and 40 years worth of tools burn. Will be gifting those to him.
Reply:Gotta say, the Ultra Jig from Yesteryear Forge has been one of those things I really regret buying. It's top quality all the way around and I've used it to make thousands of hooks and whatnot, but now that I've had it for awhile I can see that I only ever really use it for making a few select sizes of bends. For the money, I would have been far better off trying to collect up circles of one size or another, making small jigs that were easy to move about. The UJ is 3/4" thick, 14x14", iirc, and is a bear to get in and out of the vise when I need it. Plus the holes for the pins don't go all the way through so any scale and dust just builds up in them until you either blow it out or flip it over.For $400 plus shipping.... well, I wish I knew then what I know now!
Reply:We are in an era now where a lot of stuff is soi much cheaper, all different than true production equipment but even a common grinder can be had for 30$ is really a trade worthy tool. Its still easy to get sucked in to the "best" and live in fear of a little loss so I spend out of fear instead of looking at a pretty good HF record now, beats the snot out of Sears the last 30 years. Today would look for the generic versions first and then upscale, kind of reverse of older thinking as much with the buy once idea. Truth is so much stuff we thought would be temp or utility ended up in real service, still there. Contrary to a lot of popular belief the cheap combo wrench has been a blessing, made more with those than the good ones in the long run.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:Yes, same with lot of jigs/pullers. So many a use or 2, dont need every one in the set and the universal not always the easiest,,, great some of it will do a 1000 things but we dont do that.www.urkafarms.com
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Originally Posted by VaughnT
Gotta say, the Ultra Jig from Yesteryear Forge has been one of those things I really regret buying. It's top quality all the way around and I've used it to make thousands of hooks and whatnot, but now that I've had it for awhile I can see that I only ever really use it for making a few select sizes of bends. For the money, I would have been far better off trying to collect up circles of one size or another, making small jigs that were easy to move about. The UJ is 3/4" thick, 14x14", iirc, and is a bear to get in and out of the vise when I need it. Plus the holes for the pins don't go all the way through so any scale and dust just builds up in them until you either blow it out or flip it over.For $400 plus shipping.... well, I wish I knew then what I know now!
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One of these grinders is a fake. It was 1/5th of the cost of the real one. I was really pleased with it for a while. Ideal having 3 cordless - one with a cut-off disc, one with a flap disc, and one for poly wheel or grinding wheel.The brushless motor has plenty power, and it's got way more umph than the old brushed model, and the gearbox is quite decent on it....But it's let down with stupid cheap bits. The switch failed altogether because the internal linkage was weak. Had to brace it with some sheet metal and epoxy. It still doesn't work reliably every time.The spindle nut is cheap and loose on the threads. The side handle is horrible. (replaced these with old ones from a real grinder)Worst of all, the spindle lock button is glued together. When it fails, it drops the pin into the spindle and locks it solid. It fell apart once and I re-glued it. Fell apart a 2nd time on a job site last month and I wasted an hour running back to the shop to get a 2nd grinder. I was furious with myself for being a cheapskate and I've sworn never to buy fake tools ever again. Just not worth it, not if you need them to work!Last edited by Munkul; 3 Weeks Ago at 03:23 AM.Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Originally Posted by Munkul
One of these grinders is a fake. It was 1/5th of the cost of the real one. I was really pleased with it for a while. Ideal having 3 cordless - one with a cut-off disc, one with a flap disc, and one for poly wheel or grinding wheel.The brushless motor has plenty power, and it's got way more umph than the old brushed model, and the gearbox is quite decent on it....But it's let down with stupid cheap bits. The switch failed altogether because the internal linkage was weak. Had to brace it with some sheet metal and epoxy. It still doesn't work reliably every time.The spindle nut is cheap and loose on the threads. The side handle is horrible. (replaced these with old ones from a real grinder)Worst of all, the spindle lock button is glued together. When it fails, it drops the pin into the spindle and locks it solid. It fell apart once and I re-glued it. Fell apart a 2nd time on a job site last month and I wasted an hour running back to the shop to get a 2nd grinder. I was furious with myself for being a cheapskate and I've sworn never to buy fake tools ever again. Just not worth it, not if you need them to work!
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
hurt me to the quick...........nay, hurt me to the bone!!Then, after therapy, I recovered(somewhat)
Reply:Everyone buys little stuff they dont use but its the big early ones that hurt.www.urkafarms.com
Reply:I have bought tools with spin'ny bits made of plastic. Plastic bits that spin don't last very long.1) Low end Delta table top belt / disc sander with a plastic pulley on a metal splined shaft. Usable again after a dab of epoxy.2) Remington brand 110v corded chainsaw with small metal drive gear to a large plastic reduction gear. New plastic gear +shipping was almost same cost as the saw, so declined. May find use for it's motor some day (wife accuses me of being a pack rat)Century buzzbox that I learned on 40+ years ago (was Dad's)Crappy Century 110volt mig 70 amp pigeon pooper.Lincoln Idealarc TIG-300
Reply:I agree 👍 They stick out like a sore thumb 👍 Dave
Originally Posted by Sberry
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