craftsman 15-1/2" drill press - buy?

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Hello,I'm looking for a first drill press for both wood and metal working, and found this one available in my area for $200. Does anyone know anything about these craftsman drill presses?It is a 113.21310, which is a 15-1/2" and was made by Emercon in 1969. I believe the lowest RPM is 380 which is a little high for metal working. Sounds like it may have a 1/2HP motor.Does anyone know the quill depth on this unit, and are these good units for what I'm looking for?Thanks!!


Reply:I actually just bought one of those from an estate sale I had to clean and oil it up but it works great it actually has the book so maybe these pictures will help you





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Reply:Thanks, that is very very helpful! Appreciate the manual pics. Do you know the approximate quill travel?
Reply:I have a similar one and have owned it since new.  Just recently replaces the bearings on the quill.  There's a thread here somewhere I wrote.  Just don't use them as a milling machine and you will do goo..  $200 is a good price in my opinion.  The flat on the back of the table was to be used for attachments.  Bob
Reply:I worked at  a shop where the owner went out of his way to buy that model drill press. I have nothing but good things to say about them. Buy it.
Reply:I have the same drill press, got it for $150.00.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Reply:I got nearly the same one -- bought in about 1980 -- and most of the time I just use my little table mounted delta cause it's much more convenient.Glad to know that it's not got much value though -- probably more value though than my craftsman radial arm saw that sees even less use (none these days.
Reply:The only thing I don't like is the lack of a rack and pinion to elevate/lower the table, I have a linear actuator that will fix that problem pretty easily though. The table alone isn't too bad, but when I get the cross slide vise mounted it isn't doable.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Reply:OK, I make it to be about a 1979 vintage judging from the safety button on the power switch.Owners manual;http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/5471.pdfI could not find the quill travel stated in print, but if the illustrations of the depth gauge are any true indicator, it would appear to be about 4 1/2”.A buddy had one of the same vintage and the only complaint was the little belt would stretch when turning a larger bit at lower speeds.  He kept spares.  Othman the belt the rest of it seemed to be pretty sturdy for a home shop quality machine.As for price?  $200 would be top dollar for a used machine with drill divets in the table (the infamous ARC OF SHAME).RogerOld, Tired, and GRUMPY

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Originally Posted by CAVEMANN

The only thing I don't like is the lack of a rack and pinion to elevate/lower the table, I have a linear actuator that will fix that problem pretty easily though. The table alone isn't too bad, but when I get the cross slide vise mounted it isn't doable.
Reply:I would say to go for it. However the speeds are still too high to do metalworking with hole saws and big bits. If you don't mind going the extramile, you could always swap the 1ph motor for a 3ph one and run it with a VDF, that would give you much lower speeds for metal.Mikel
Reply:Floor model drill presses can be found reasonable or cheap by me. People buy them , use a few times, and there they sit. Sellers always try to get lots of $$$ for the older ones. I suggest looking for one with two belts and three pulley system. Front set of pulleys, middle , and a rear set. This will provide lower RPM settings better for most metal work. I have a older Delta that's works well I got for $100.00.
Reply:You can buy the "3rd" pulley kits online, but after looking at them I think it could easily be fabricated and even improved upon for less money.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Reply:What I would consider a deal breaker when buying a drill press is how the chuck is mounted to the spindle, if the drill press has a removable mt2 arbor that the chuck is mounted to, it will be much easier to switch/remove  the chuck/arbor or upgrade to a better one. some presses like Ridgid has a solid spindle directly attached to the chuck and if that spindle ever gets damaged or bent , it needs r to be replaced, a real pita. The lifting mechanism for the table is also a great feature to have in a drill press but not a deal breaker.Ken from ontario,Canada.
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Originally Posted by rossn

I believe the lowest RPM is 380 which is a little high for metal working.
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Originally Posted by kerf

its perfect for up to a 1/2" drill bit

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Originally Posted by Mikel_24

But you are limited in the use of holesaws....
Reply:I'd buy it and get a speed reduction similar to above. If you step up to a floor press some day, the kit could be moved to the floor press and this one left at the higher speed for wood. I bought a single reduction King floor model at an auction and found out I didn't like the fast speeds, so I just leave it for wood. I have another old floor model drill press that I've set up for metal with a cross slide and 80 rpm spindle speed (just used larger and smaller pulleys, but it already had the double reduction). I love the 2-way cross slide vise, but you would be very limited for space on a bench model. Just a simple one way drill press vise would be nice though.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:I've seen zero need in drilling wood fast.
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Originally Posted by Bonzoo

I've seen zero need in drilling wood fast.
Reply:Agreed, I keep my press on the lowest speed (220 rpm) and use it for wood as well as metal, and cleaning it for the wood stuff is the biggest PIA.  A roll of wax paper really helps, just clean the chips, and roll out a sheet over the dirty/oily table when you need a wood friendly clean surface.  I keep a coffee can of mineral spirits to dunk drill bits into before wood use, all the crap settles to the bottom and it lasts quite a long while in this capacity.  Disagree with seeing zero need for speed in drilling.  Speed in anything = being more productive. If i had to do quite a bit of drilling the speed would make a big, big difference.  Time is always money and if you only have to lose/spend a little then no big loss, but if you're drilling holes all day it pays damn well to be 30%+ faster.
Reply:If your worried about lowering speed the easiest way is to buy a Staco Powerstat on eBay or craigslist and dial in the exact speed you want.I have a 1980 Clausing drill press that I have used a powerstat on for years and no problem at all. I bought a used 20amp model for $50 shipped. Tom
Reply:Some of the Craftsman drill presses had little dinky V-belts.  Won't handle much torque.  I bought a Chinese bench top drill press nearly 40 years ago (my first machine tool) and it's still going strong.  It's probably drilled more than 20,000 holes and it's been abused by trying to use it as a milling machine and all I've done is replace the belt once.America Needs AMERICA'S Oil!!!"Global warming is the greatest scam in history ...There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril."--John Coleman, Founder of The Weather ChannelHere’s my 1948 Atlas I got at a local auction for $20. Works good for me. It has the optional 3 rd pulley for lower speeds


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Reply:This is the same drill press that I inherited from my dad when he passed away in 2009.  Unfortunately in all this time I have been unable to find a manual.  If you have the ability to create a .pdf of your manual, I would gladly pay you for your time.
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Originally Posted by simulatorboy

This is the same drill press that I inherited from my dad when he passed away in 2009.  Unfortunately in all this time I have been unable to find a manual.  If you have the ability to create a .pdf of your manual, I would gladly pay you for your time.