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At least I finally got to where I could reach the primer bulb
Reply:Sammm, when you work on that sh!t, please put a 10'x10' tarp under your work table so you can find all the parts when you go to put it back together!
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Originally Posted by shortfuse
Sammm, when you work on that sh!t, please put a 10'x10' tarp under your work table so you can find all the parts when you go to put it back together!
Reply:And keep a large trash can at the edge of the table so when it all goes wrong and you get really pissed off you can rake the whole mess into the barrel.Miller Challenger 172Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC 225/150Miller Maxstar 150 STLVictor 100CVictor JourneymanOxweld OAHarris O/ASmith O/A little torchNo, that's not my car.
Reply:U can buy a brand new stihl 171 for 200$ with 2 year warranty if you buy a pack out there oil. You’d be crazy not to
Reply:Ah, very nice separation for recycling Sam
...this is a recycling thread right...
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Reply:Just another example of Samm neglecting and abusing.... Moto nailed it. Just buy a new one. and TRY to take care of it this time.
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Originally Posted by bigb
And keep a large trash can at the edge of the table so when it all goes wrong and you get really pissed off you can rake the whole mess into the barrel.
Reply:This might pose a problem
Long as I have it apart, I figure I ought to replace all the fuel lines. They're pretty rotted from the gasoline in them over the past 4ish years. But, the grommet that they pass through, on top of the fuel tank, is probably made of unobtainium. And I'm thinking it has to be removed to replace the lines. It's impossible to pull the things through the holes. Or maybe not.........need to take the gamble, and pull them until they either move, or break.I have the bulb kit that comes with a new fuel filter, and extra fuel line.I did take a ton of pics when I tore the thing down, so I should be able tp get it back together (hopefully)
If not, I'm only out $10 for the fuel primer kit.Last edited by farmersammm; 09-22-2020 at 10:24 PM.Reason: added last sentence
Reply:Just did something similar to revive a 15 year old echo weedeater. I found a fuel line doohickey (three lines, with vent and filter and a similar fuel tank grommet) and primer bulb for a couple bucks on amazon.A whole new chinesium carburetor was like $12.Sad actually.
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Originally Posted by Beefman
Just did something similar to revive a 15 year old echo weedeater. I found a fuel line doohickey (three lines, with vent and filter and a similar fuel tank grommet) and primer bulb for a couple bucks on amazon.A whole new chinesium carburetor was like $12.Sad actually.
Reply:It's almost gotten to the stage where if Amazon doesn't have it, it ain't made....next is ebay.
Reply:I was able to get the grommet out without any damage.
I thought about it, and realized that if you need for anything made of rubber to be slick, you should treat it like a tire.
Give it a few squirts with tire soap, let it flow into the joint...........then simply push it down into the fuel tank
The repair kit doesn't come with the identical WEIGHTED gas filter.
I was able to go to my small motor guy, and get the original Walbro filter, so I lucked out. But, if I hadn't found one, it would be a simple matter of drilling a hole in a piece of steel to fit over the fuel line like the donut on the Walbro filter.
Reply:I have followed several of your repair stuff threads..and for bejesus sake, you could make changing a normal light bulb into a 2 week renovation...laugh it was meant to be funny..but true...you ripped a chainsaw apart into little bitty pieces to change out a primer bulb...thats what? usually a 1/2 hour job..on a bad day...
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Originally Posted by Hobbytime
I have followed several of your repair stuff threads..and for bejesus sake, you could make changing a normal light bulb into a 2 week renovation...laugh it was meant to be funny..but true...you ripped a chainsaw apart into little bitty pieces to change out a primer bulb...thats what? usually a 1/2 hour job..on a bad day...
Reply:Poulans are much like that as well... I don't think they were ever intended to be fixed, just disposed of. I had one with a motor with no compression, and one with a good motor but the end of the crank that holds the clutch was broken. Seemed like a simple idea... take the good parts from both and build one that runs. That's when I found out some are made in Mexico, some in China, some in Taiwan and the parts don't interchange. Still got a big box of parts here if u want to come and get them... I switched to Stihl.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:My first chain saw was a McCullagh & it was a good chain saw cut lots of cedar trees and elm trees with it. After I started having issues with it and we had a bad ice storm my wife bought me a Poulan, the first one only ran for about 5 minutes then the engine locked up on it. I returned it and the second one could not get it to idle, took it back the third one I fought fair and square for a long time but gave up on it and went and bought a Stihl and gave away the third Poulan.
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
This thing is built like modern day cars........everything is impossible to get to. The weedeater was a trip in the park compared to this stinkin' thing. The entire handle assembly had to come off to access the fuel lines, and it's bolted to the motor on the back, side, and front, of the stinkin' motor. Man.......this is a killer!!!I can get a new one at Lowes for $180, but I'm so damn far down in the market, I gotta fix this one
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Originally Posted by gnewby
My first chain saw was a McCullagh & it was a good chain saw cut lots of cedar trees and elm trees with it. After I started having issues with it and we had a bad ice storm my wife bought me a Poulan, the first one only ran for about 5 minutes then the engine locked up on it. I returned it and the second one could not get it to idle, took it back the third one I fought fair and square for a long time but gave up on it and went and bought a Stihl and gave away the third Poulan.
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Originally Posted by whtbaron
You hear lots of comments like that, but oddly enough I've had pretty good luck with them up until the last 5 or 6 yrs. I've got 3 that had around 12 to 15 yrs on them before they lost compression. The one with the broken crank was from trimming caragana branches and the rubber stalks wrapped into the chain and snapped it... not really the saw's fault. Last couple didn't stand up that well... got maybe 3 yrs on them before they started losing compression so even their quality has slipped. I've still got an 18" I use for rough applications and so far it's been working well...
Reply:I am just going by my experience with them. I have owned 5 chain saws, three of which were Poulans back to back and all three were bad. My other two chain saws both not the Poulan brand were both great.
Reply:With all this messing around, I think I inadvertently found the reason the thing quit running. Sure the primer bulb was bad from sitting around for a long time, but this had to be the reason IT DID SIT AROUND FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT NO LONGER WOULD RUN
This thing has a tube/hose that takes the impulses from the crankcase to the carb in order to run the diaphragm pump!! The diaphragm is what pumps the fuel out of the tank, and is located on all these little carbs. The hose was competely cracked, and broken in half.I wasn't sure what the hose was, and called the small motor dood, and he immediately knew what it was. He said they're not too common, but he's seen them. Anyways..........he couldn't find one in his parts book for the MTD/Craftsman. He said they're special high temperature material. And.......he said they absolutely won't run without this hose. Most designs take the impulses from the crankcase through the base of the carb, but this thing has that long rubber thingy that isolates the carb from the motor, so it has to have the hose.So.............if it can't be found........I did what I could, and substituted some vacuum line in its place (that's the stuff in the pic). I'm not sure if it'll last, but tried to help it last by folding up some cut up beer can aluminum between the hose, and the cooling fins on the motor. Keep your fingers crossed
I don't see what else I can do, being as the hose is not available (shrug). That rubber vac line gets pretty hot in normal automotive applications, so I might get lucky, and have it last for a while.Took forever to take this part of the thing apart, dunno how they do it on a fast assembly line
The rubber thingy that connects the carb to the intake, the brown thing, has to pass through 3 different things, and ya gotta fight it to get it to go through.
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
dunno how they do it on a fast assembly line
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Originally Posted by shortfuse
1. They have the special tools,2. Probably one experienced assembly dood per part, and3. They do thousands of them, FAST.
Reply:Sam get a Milwaukee Fuel chain saw. I was going to get one but I had to buy so many other tools that I put it off. I have the Milwaukee weed whacker I like that with the 12 amp hour battery that things does a good job. Sincerely, William McCormickIf I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.
Originally Posted by William McCormick
Sam get a Milwaukee Fuel chain saw. I was going to get one but I had to buy so many other tools that I put it off. I have the Milwaukee weed whacker I like that with the 12 amp hour battery that things does a good job. Sincerely, William McCormick
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Originally Posted by ronsii
They do work good for little stuff and 'quiet work'... when you don't want nosey people to know what you're doing
nowhere near as powerful as my stihl's.. but hey each has it's purpose
The one thing I don't like is the teeny tiny chain it has... but I understand why they designed it that way....They ain't cheap either
but what is these days...
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Originally Posted by 12V71
I been checking out the "Greenworks" 60V 16" chainsaw for the little I do at home, I already have the string trimmer and its pretty awesome. Besides, little things with spark plugs hate me.
Reply:Make a leak down tester for the SXS, old sparkplug and a 1/8" pipe coupler. You know what to do with that. Wow... plastic intake manifold? I've probably seen it and it didn't register. Warpage just waiting to happen.
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Originally Posted by 12V71
Make a leak down tester for the SXS, old sparkplug and a 1/8" pipe coupler. You know what to do with that. Wow... plastic intake manifold? I've probably seen it and it didn't register. Warpage just waiting to happen.
Reply:I've gotten pretty distraught with the small engines on chainsaws & weedeaters, it seems they just don't hold up like they used to, I bought a new Poulan chainsaw two years ago , I've never used it because the dang thing is so hard to pull, even with the blade brake off, I don't know if you can buy one without it nowadays, BUT I HATE IT! I also have a near new Stihl weedeater that didnt wanna start this year, I just don't have the stamina or give-a-schit to fight em.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.We didnt pass it to our children in the bloodstream".RONALD REAGAN
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Originally Posted by CAVEMANN
I've gotten pretty distraught with the small engines on chainsaws & weedeaters, it seems they just don't hold up like they used to, I bought a new Poulan chainsaw two years ago , I've never used it because the dang thing is so hard to pull, even with the blade brake off, I don't know if you can buy one without it nowadays, BUT I HATE IT! I also have a near new Stihl weedeater that didnt wanna start this year, I just don't have the stamina or give-a-schit to fight em.
Reply:I finally decided on the Greenworks 60V 16" chainsaw today, went to Lowes since they had the best price online... They are selling so fast I wont see mine for another week. $229 with battery and charger. Amazon had the saw alone for $191+12 bux shipping, but the extra batteries are $189 by themselves and I get another charger too. NO MORE YANKING CORDS.
Reply:I got it all put together Friday evening, and pulled the cord.......................it ran for a few seconds.Finally got it running for a while with the choke closed, and ONLY with the choke closed.So, it's either something plugged in the carb/faulty fuel pump in carb/faulty metering system in carb/weak pulse coming from motor to run the pump.I pulled the line from the pump off, and blew in it. I could hear just a tiny bit of air coming out of the fitting on the motor. I don't know just how much pressure the pulse should be, but a leak isn't good I'm thinking. The improper hose doesn't fit tight enough maybe. I can put a small diameter hose on it if need be.I opened up the carb to look at the fuel pump diaphragm, and metering diaphragm. Both looked ok. But I ruined a gasket when opening up. Now I gotta run and get a kit on Monday.I need to check the check valve in the metering chamber too. It looks like it's full of some sorta yellow crud.So far, I've got $9 in the bulb kit, and $3 in the new filter. I imagine the carb kit will run about $10-12 for a decent one.
Reply:On Monday, I called the small engine guy to order a carb kit. He very strongly recommended against it because the carb is a Walbro clone from China,, and it's just enough different from a genuine Walbro, that the kit may/may not fit. He looked up the price of a new identical Chinese knockoff..................$17. So we ordered the new one, and it arrived this afternoon.When I mount the chain bar, I'll adjust the idle so it doesn't move the chain. My feeling, at this point, is that the idle is too fast. BUT DAMMY GRAMMY!!!!!! SHE'S RUNNIN' AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And I didn't have any leftover parts
I have absolutely no idea how I typed Cragsman in the title Alzheimers maybe......
Reply:I was surprised at all the smoke it put out. I'm thinking it's because I forgot to put the cap back on the gas can a few days back, and it sat there for about 24hrs open. I'd bet enough gas evaporated to make the oil/gas ratio oil rich. Anyways..........this crap is gonna get drained from the tank, the can emptied, and I'm headin' off to the gas station to buy some REAL gas for the 2 cycle stuff. No more ethanol in these!! |
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