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I've read here in the main forum that the TSC Hobart machines are like the Lincoln HD versions sold at Home Depot-lesser quality.Is this true, and if so how could I tell which is which when looking at a used machine?And if true how much of a lesser quality? Something a hobbyist wouldn't really notice, or ???Thanks,RussRIP Mallory, we miss you.
Reply:I do not believe that what you were told is correct. Insofar as I know, a Hobart machine is a Hobart machine, regardless of where it is sold. Hobart and Miller Electric are sister companies. Both are owned by Illinois Tool Works. As such I believe that Hobart welders and Miller Electric welders have more in common beneath the skin than most welders realize.There was a press release on the local news a few weeks ago stating that Hobart welding products, the division that makes Hobart welding machines, is relocating to Appleton, Wisconsin. Appleton, WI is the location of Miller Electric Mfg's headquarters, and home to much of their manufacturing base.Make what you will of that...Benson's Mobile Welding - Dayton, OH metro area - AWS Certified Welding Inspector
Reply:They are a budget version of the Miller machines. Where a Miller might have infinite voltage controls the Hobart will have tapped...that kind of thing. But the Hobarts while having different features are every bit as robust as the Millers. I have owned two now and love them. Its just a question of if you can live with the features they have or don't have vs. the Miller. Hobarts are very good welders.Miller Multimatic 255
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Originally Posted by Louie1961
They are a budget version of the Miller machines. Where a Miller might have infinite voltage controls the Hobart will have tapped...that kind of thing. But the Hobarts while having different features are every bit as robust as the Millers. I have owned two now and love them. Its just a question of if you can live with the features they have or don't have vs. the Miller. Hobarts are very good welders.
Reply:I think the op's question was more along the line of if there is a difference between a Hobart sold at Tractor Supply and one sold elsewhere. I do not believe thereally is.Eventual master of the obvious, practitioner of "stream of consciousness fabrication". P.S. I edit almost every post because because I'm posting from my phone and my fingers sometimes move faster than my brain.
Reply:There's no difference in quality a HH140 ect. is the same regardless where you buy it. For the money they're a great machine!-DoogieMiller 350PMiller Trailblazer 325 EFI w/ Excel PowerLincoln LN25 suitcase welderXMT 304/22a feederMiller Syncrowave 350LXMiller EconotigHobart Handler 140(2) Uni-Hydro 42-14Hypertherm 65 plasmaWEBB Gap bed lathe
Reply:A Hobart from TSC is the same as a Hobart from any other retailer. I can go to my LWS and buy any consumables or parts I may need, and I purchased my welder from TSC. At my LWS is where I learned that some consumables are interchangeable with Miller products, I know tips and nozzles for sure, because that's what I bought.Nothing low quality about the Hobart welders. Just not as feature-rich as the Miller product line.Hobart Handler 187Hobart T.C. 295Everlast SuperCut 50P
Reply:Hobart units sold through a welding supply store are going to be the same units you get from a farm store.In a used unit I'd stay away from a Handler 135, 175, and 180. The 135 and 175 have control board issues. The 175 control board issues were corrected with the 180. I am not fond of the 180, due to the arc quality of the upper two taps.The Handler 140 is an OK unit. The Handler 187, 190, 210 and 210 MVP are all real good units. The Ironman 230 is a very good unit too. I haven't ran an Ironman 210 or 250.ESAB Migmaster 250
Hobart Ironman 230Multimatic 215TWECO Fabricator 181i & 211iHH125EZ - nice little fluxcore only unitMaxstar 150 STH - very nice
Reply:I have the Ironman 210 that was bought at tractor supply new about 15 years ago..it was used at a fence company across the road from us for a couple months then they went out of buisness and I bought it.It's been an awesome welder and never had any trouble with it at all. It's the one I used at my home shop for 10 years and now it's at the shop where I work. It has the same tapped voltage switch and wire speed adjustment knob as my miller DVI has, just located in a different spot on the face panel.
Reply:Thanks.I had read in another thread somewhere on the site (I've read too many recently to remember where it was) that the Hobart sold at TSC was a lesser unit, apparently that poster was mistaken. Hoping to get a TSC card, but probably won't be approved. Otherwise back to trying to save up for something. RussRIP Mallory, we miss you.
Reply:If you compare the hobart stickmate to the miller thunderbolt you will see they are identical, except the color.
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Originally Posted by Louie1961
They are a budget version of the Miller machines. Where a Miller might have infinite voltage controls the Hobart will have tapped...that kind of thing. But the Hobarts while having different features are every bit as robust as the Millers. I have owned two now and love them. Its just a question of if you can live with the features they have or don't have vs. the Miller. Hobarts are very good welders.
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Originally Posted by russ69coupe
Thanks.I had read in another thread somewhere on the site (I've read too many recently to remember where it was) that the Hobart sold at TSC was a lesser unit, apparently that poster was mistaken. Hoping to get a TSC card, but probably won't be approved. Otherwise back to trying to save up for something. Russ
Reply:I just bought an Ironman 230 today. I got it from a distributor and paid a little more to have someone on the phone with a brain when I need something.The box store welders some refer to (specifically lincoln) are geared to a conned sumer market so they can be chopped down in comparison to the "C"yet the guts come from the same Mexican factory. I hear the repeat chanting about plastic vs The Super Awesome cast aluminimimum. Well. Pull them out and whack the hi tech plastic with a 32 oz ball peen. Then try the cast aluminum.Or "aluminum" ? Less bells. Faster production. Less hype. NASCAR stickers.If it were still P.C. you could get a discount for Marlboro miles I bet !Last edited by Bonzoo; 09-21-2016 at 12:43 AM.
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Originally Posted by russ69coupe
Thanks.I had read in another thread somewhere on the site (I've read too many recently to remember where it was) that the Hobart sold at TSC was a lesser unit, apparently that poster was mistaken. Hoping to get a TSC card, but probably won't be approved. Otherwise back to trying to save up for something. Russ
Reply:I use a Hobart Ironman 250 that the boss bought at tractor supply . It has been used at time's for 8+ hours a day for weeks. We run 0.35 and it has been a great machine for us. I think he has had it for 3 or 4 years, I think is still on the original roller's. Not a fan of the handle of the gun but it has held up to constant shop use. Very good machine for around 1500 bucks.
Reply:Been running an old HH135 for 14 years. Up to now it's been a wonderful machine. Needs a new gun assembly, and will probably not replace it. Upgrading to a 220v machine. HH190. Same gun assembly will fit both machines, so why not upgrade says me. The HH135 (or the newer HH140) is limited to 11ga material, and it's right on the edge at that thickness."Any day above ground is a good day"
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Originally Posted by farmersamm
Been running an old HH135 for 14 years. Up to now it's been a wonderful machine. Needs a new gun assembly, and will probably not replace it. Upgrading to a 220v machine. HH190. Same gun assembly will fit both machines, so why not upgrade says me. The HH135 (or the newer HH140) is limited to 11ga material, and it's right on the edge at that thickness.
Reply:Farmersamm, call HTP and see how much a gun is for your Hobart. Might surprise you.Eventual master of the obvious, practitioner of "stream of consciousness fabrication". P.S. I edit almost every post because because I'm posting from my phone and my fingers sometimes move faster than my brain.
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Originally Posted by Sedanman
Farmersamm, call HTP and see how much a gun is for your Hobart. Might surprise you.
Reply:Nope, they are all the same. Bought a 140 EZ from there years ago on sale ($300 i think) and ive used it more than it should have been and its still going good
Reply:I’ve had my ironman230 for about six months now, love this machine for my barn projects and tractor welding jobs!I purchased from northern tool as they had the best price with free shipping and a two hundred dollar gift card, the freight company called to confirm my address and the fact I had forks available at my residence, she told me my welder shipped directly from Hobart and not from northern tool in Wisconsin. I would have to guess my welder is the same as any other Hobart sold
Reply:Tractor Supply is having a sale on the hobart stickmate lx 235ac 160dc welder right now., I just ordered one curb side pickup today from my local Tractor Supply for $279.99, just received the email to pick it up.https://slickdeals.net/f/14027435-ho...-welder-279-99
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Originally Posted by mojave_ron
Tractor Supply is having a sale on the hobart stickmate lx 235ac 160dc welder right now., I just ordered one curb side pickup today from my local Tractor Supply for $279.99, just received the email to pick it up.https://slickdeals.net/f/14027435-ho...-welder-279-99
Reply:I've been running my old Transformer based stickmate on a bunch of steel stairs I've been working on. It made about 3 sets of stringers and put about 9 sets of grates on. with 6 treads in a set. only 85 more sets to go.
Originally Posted by mojave_ron
Tractor Supply is having a sale on the hobart stickmate lx 235ac 160dc welder right now., I just ordered one curb side pickup today from my local Tractor Supply for $279.99, just received the email to pick it up.https://slickdeals.net/f/14027435-ho...-welder-279-99
Reply:I love the HH140 I got at TSC a few years ago. Something I wonder now is whether the Champion Elite 225's will still be in stock now with the newer 260's or whether they'll be phased out and thus go on clearance. I REALLY want to grab a 225 anyway, but have been waiting to pay other stuff off first and wait for the right moment.
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Originally Posted by russ69coupe
I've read here in the main forum that the TSC Hobart machines are like the Lincoln HD versions sold at Home Depot-lesser quality.Is this true, and if so how could I tell which is which when looking at a used machine?And if true how much of a lesser quality? Something a hobbyist wouldn't really notice, or ???Thanks,Russ
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Originally Posted by danielplace
Is a Hobart from Tractor Supply the same unit as if same Hobart machine was purchased at a welding supply ? |
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