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Hello all.I'm 26 turning 27 soon and looking for a new career. I always considered welding. I'm in IT now and I hate to see companies shipping anything and everything off to overseas. From what I have read trades are the big thing now. With the baby boomers retiring, I see their is a demand for labour work. What I want to know is.. With trade schools teaching this more often will the market for welders become saturated ? What are the pros and cons about being a welder? Any advice with help.Thanks in advanceMatt   Last edited by mattbrook; 06-17-2005 at 02:13 AM.
Reply:The Market will never be "saturated" with welders. Rod burners are a dime a dozen. Welders are hard to find.  The pros are if you are good at what you do, you can build anything you want. The cons are if your good, you won't be Home much.....
Reply:Ok tx's for the info. I'm somone that always wants to learn. So I just won't be a "ROD" welder. A buddies buddy does under water welding.. WOW GREAT $. Keep the advice coming guys/girls  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:You asked, Thats my story and I'm stickin to it......
Reply:Tx's Mr. Hood... Any other advice from anyone else  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Gezzz No One !!! Tx's GuysThanks in advanceMatt
Reply:I'm a hobby welder but we had plenty of discussions around welding as a profession when I took some welding classes at the local CC.  The primary instructors had both been career welders and inspectors.  Both of them spent a lot of time doing pipe, either pipelines, refineries or manufacturing/nuclear plants.    Both recommended getting very good with being able to work from drawings, understand all the welding symbols and being able to work without a lot of detailed direction.  Put in the effort to get all the certifications that you need too.Lots of types of work depending on what type of welding and environment you want to be involved with.  One of the instructors was heavily involved with smaller pipe and tubing TIG welding in manufacturing, semiconductor and nuclear plants.   Lots of stainless, lots of orbital machine welding, generally very clean and safe environments and very, very good money.  During summer breaks from teaching he was usually able to pick up some work for extra $$$.We did discuss underwater welding but the sense I got was that it was tough work that could be quite dangerous.  The career could be much shorter (10 yrs or less) due to the the toll the underwater work took on your body.  Anyway, that's what I took away from the discussion.Good luck!TinkerCentury 135GS, ThermalArc 250GTS
Reply:Hey now I kinda took a tad bit of offense to the comment of "rod" welders.  For the record there is nothing wrong with welding with a rod vs wire or torch.  All processes have their pros and cons.  Some are better for differnt applications.  While there increasingly increasing acceptance of wire in the industry stick is here to stay and aint going no where.  Most pipe welders are still using stick, and they are some of the highest paid.  Even the underwater unless there are ones I dont know of is a modified stick welder.  If you are good at learning you wont find stick welding to be inferior.  There is always something to learn.   Good luckCHRIS
Reply:TxRedneck,I sure hope you were not pointing the finger at me, with that comment of taking Offense, Cause if you are, you need to re-read my post. I said "Rod Burners"...........  Here is my take on it, if I need to clear it up.Rod burners can not read a blue print, lay something out, or even cut it out. Let alone make a good fit. They are just rod burners........or wire burners.
Reply:Welding is the great enabler.  If you're a weldor you don't have to take your vision for someone to screw up.  You can do all the screwing up all by yourself.It does free you to build your dream you way.Welding doesn't pay enough for me to be a weldor for a living.There are too many hazards.  Besides getting shocked, burnt, or going blind there's the fumes that take a long time to get you.  You're always working with things too heavy in an uncomfortable position and that takes a toll on your body too.If you're lucky enough to catch a specialty, like the underwater stuff, you can make big bucks.  But there's always a reason why something pays the big bucks.  If it isn't the skill required then it's the danger involved that makes it pay so much.I do all right welding.  But almost all of my work comes in not from my ability to weld, but my ability to figure things out.If you can do that then welding can be very rewarding financially and emotionally.But if you're just looking for a career consider becoming a nurse.  They make great bucks and can live anywhere they want.  And they'll always have a job.  Somewhere close there's a weldor working.  (click on the "life is good" at the bottom of the post)life is good
Reply:Hood,  I wasnt directing toward you.  And if I was wrong about the context of the phrase "rod" welder, I apologize.  I have been all too often insulted and have had folks put down welders of the SMAW process.  I for one have a degree in welding, can read the prints, can build from my own ideas as well as having a good idea of general design. I have a lot of experience in the pipe fitting sector and do a lot of general fabrication.  I find folks too often associate the cost of a stick setup to what them guys know what what the quality of the process is in terms of weld quality.  Its something that really irritates me.  I can out weld a lot of guys with their mig welders with my ole stinger.   Even some of them guys who tell ya they are good tig welders I can still make em look bad with my stinger.  I understand what your calling a rod burner, and thats not what I was commenting on.  But another post regarding rod welding and what I saw as an insult to folks who prefer to weld with a rod vs another process.  Hope were still alright with each other Rob.  CHRIS
Reply:Matt:  learning to weld is a good skill.  There is always a need for welders but more important there is a need for mechanics, heavy duty mechanics, millwrights, sheet metalworkers, and even carpenters who can weld.   I am a steel fabricator by trade who also welds.  Some jobs welding are very repetitive and boring.  Some welding jobs pay insane wages.
Reply:hey matt the sooner you get into welding the better. im 24 now and i started my training when i was 20. i currently own my own business and and its going great. a word of advice though.... you better love it, because if you dont you are gonna suck at it and all you'll be is a crappy "rod burner" getting paid 8 bucks an hourr welding the same little gadget on a production line. boring! be versatile and learn ALL the welding techniques and you'll always have work. latersthe thief of hearts     www.jamfab.com
Reply:Hey y'all Tx's for the advice. So far I have heard the following:- Pays well- Pays not enough- There is some danger- and seems like there are MANY TYPES of welders- Not so sure I want to be a nurse lol, but tx's for that tip too.- MOST IMPORTANT: ALWAYS A JOB FOR ONESo I guess it depends how FAR into welding and how good you get on how  much you make. I mean I have seen some welding jobs that pays 15 $ an hour..... I make more then that now. Then again that could be someone RIGHT out of school. I like the hands on and seeing what you made come to life. I'm the type of guy that wants to get dirty, and can work long hours... or even do some sides jobs for extra cash without uncle sam taking a piece   Keep the advice coming please:And thanks you all for your time.Matt   Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:TxRedneck, I don't get upset....  But I have seen guys make a few nice welds and think there the man, after some one has done all the hard work to make a nice fit, and you have to know a nice fit will make a nice weld....   Matt, $15.00 bucks to learn is not bad to start and have a good welder show you some tricks of the trade.
Reply:Well me personally, I dont just weld.  I fit and weld, unless its pipe and even then I usually do my own torch work.  When im doing structural or equipment repair I do all my own work.  I am old fashioned and all though cause I still use the old stick welder for most everything I do.  Its a little slower, and not nearly as effiecent, but does the job and I love it.  Mig is good, but I never quite took a love for it like most follks.   Well good luck to y'allCHRIS
Reply:Originally Posted by Robin HoodTxRedneck, I don't get upset....  But I have seen guys make a few nice welds and think there the man, after some one has done all the hard work to make a nice fit, and you have to know a nice fit will make a nice weld....   Matt, $15.00 bucks to learn is not bad to start and have a good welder show you some tricks of the trade.
Reply:BUMP: Just wanted to see if anyone had more advice  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Well I'm not sure on what to say sooo...... I'm both a welder and pipe fitter, but on a lot of jobs they employ me just to weld. When this happens the dollars get better. If you want to be a welder look at it like this, if you put a lot in you'll get a lot more back but you've got to learn with maximum profit in mind.   What I mean is ( I hope this doesn't piss anyone off) I've found piping pay's by far the best money, so in doing your training you need to think piping ie: Tig, stick both up and down with maybe a bit of gasless wire as well. But with piping YOUR NEVER HOME, so if that's a bit on the nose maybe you want to get into earth-moving equipment. In that case theres a lot of flux cored welding, so that's what you train in. A lot more down hand with big fillets and big preheats.I don't know if this is any help but it should give you some food for thought.Stephen
Reply:No that was a great post. Thanks so much  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Matt:   If you are in IT now it will be quite a change in working conditions.  Serious welding can be relatively dirty.  The odd burn and dirt under your fingernails is a normal situation.  Some people who start out in shops as helpers find that they cannot stand the noise even with plugs.  You are going to meet different people than you would meet in an office situation.  Most people I work with are good hearts.  You however will meet people who are on the social fringe also.  This means drug dependancies, histories of criminal activities,  and violent tendencies.   I am not saying all work situations will introduce you to these people but it is more likely.  I think it would be wise to get a job in a shop where welding and fabrication is taking place.  You could likely get a job as a labourer to get a feeling for the work environment.  Take a leave of absence or do it on your holiday time.  It is not unusual for people to take years of training and then decide at the end they are not interesting is that career track.    Yesterday in the lunch room we were loooking at a business magazine article on the back page.  In Canada only 20 percent earn over 50,000 per year.  All three of us made the cut off.  That is not to say that you are going to start there.  It will take a few years but it is doable.  Another thing is finding employment does not involve sitting in front of a circle of  people asking what you career plan is or how you feel about joining the team.   In this industry you walk in asking if there is work, do a quick weld test, go back and unload your tools from your vehicle and you are at work.  Also you are going to expereince situations where someone will tell you  off in the most colourful language then sit down with you over coffee and  the whole thing is forgotten.
Reply:Ive seen all out fist fights, and one had a hammer throw at a guy near me.  Then ive had hammers fly at me and went after the guy, only thing that held my job together for me was my buddy pinning me down telling me it aint worth it, MF.   Sometimes hammers go flyin and its pure accident.  Stupidity, but never on purpose.  Othertimes it becomes a tool of violence.  Some folks on the job are making more money, doing less work.  Others are slaves of their own past, and some of their continued habits.  These circumstances can create real havok and open the door for problems.  Though as lotech mentioned, its more often not to be the case, it happens.  Besides there are a lot of safety issues on a job that wont just give you a paper cut, but they will kill you if you and everyone on the crew arent careful and then some.  But to be honest Id never trade it for the world.  Good luckCHRIS
Reply:Howdy!  Not against welding, but the electrical trade is awesome too.   Brian Lee  Sparkeee24
Reply:The electrical trade would be a better choice for someone with IT experience.   With solid state controls knowing how to set up programmable logic controllers alone invites big dollars.  It takes similar skills in logic to troubleshoot problems and approach them in an orderly fashion.  Of course electricians are almost as bad a machinists as far as walking around with big heads....  Just poking fun.
Reply:Thing about the electrical trade is.. I don't mess with anything electrical. Big time fear !! Can't get over it too. Now a flame that I can do   Wow looks like it's a big change from the IT world. That I knew though. I like to work with my hands, gets dirty and see my final product too.Thanks for the advice all.  Thanks in advanceMattMatt,  I left a welding/machining job with a large company making about 25.00 an hour to go full time after moonlighting for about 12 years in the fabrication / welding field.  The main thing is you  have to enjoy what your doing.  You can go as far as your skills and talent take you.  You have to find a direction to go.  Finding a speciality would pay better.  I'm considering  micro welding.  As a shop owner with the outsourcing trend there is work available.  You didn't say if you are considering working for yourself or someone else.
Reply:I know that a big part of welding for me is the guy's I work with. Staunch guy's, potheads, wheelers and dealers, fighters and the list goes on and on. There's guy's I hate and those that hate me. In amoungst them all I've got some really great friend's, sometimes I won't see some of them for a couple of year's then we end up on a job together and have a ball. With construction it helps if you like a drink, we're probably all border line drunks, but what the hay everyones got bad habits!If your straight up with everyone then I've found most are straight up with you, yes theres some aholes around but it doesn't take long to sort them out and there normally few and far between.Stephen
Reply:Howdy!  I totally agree.  It is less important what you do, and more important that you enjoy doing it, so long as it can support you and whatever family you have.  There are some things I like to do, four letter word comes to mind, that just wouldn't be right for making a living on   Because when you enjoy doing something, you will excell in it above most the others who don't   That is an excellent way to be happy in life, and get places too.  Just some thoughts.
Reply:Mattbrook,Here is an additional thing to remember that I dont think has been mentioned.  A skill like welding can open doors to other things.  I was able to get jobs ahead of other folks when I was just out of high school because I was able to say that I had been trained to weld and had a couple of peices of paper to prove it.  Even as a college student I was able to get pretty good jobs both on campus and in industry (I think) because I was able to put that on an application or resume.  Skills and program certificates are valuable primarily in that they convey that you are capable of obtaining skills and completing what you start.  Once you are hired, then you have to back it up; but getting through the interview process is the most critical.  Welding has a very broad array of applications.  You say that you currently work in IT.  There are lots of jobs in heavy industry that incorporate both IT and welding processes, but expect to travel (even internationally) for really big money jobs in heavy industry.I currently work in a university department that focuses on economic development (state-level and regional kinds of stuff).  The best place to see what is currently out there nationwide for any occupation is the current occupational handbook at the Bureau of Labor Statistics (http://www.bls.gov/oco/).  This gives you a look at average wages and growth potential in the field you are considering along with educational requirements.  You might also contact your local vo-tech and see what their placements are doing out of their welding program.  This might give you a good idea about the (more) local job scene.You are right about the boomers.  Many of the fields currently dominated by folks in their 50-60s are seeing a loss of employees.  One thing to look at in this guide is the average ages of employees.  Higher average age can, however, be a bad thing (Note: I dont think this is the case with welding).  Higher average age might indicate a field of declining importance.Of course, you can always make your on thing happen.  I would guess many of the guys here are self-employed (business owners), but that requires more than welding skills, as I am sure they will attest.  Even the most skilled self-employed welders have to get business by selling their services.  They also have to be able to effectively managing their work flow.  Also, the rewards are not always in cash when you work for yourself.You might see if there is anyone in your area that could use some cheap weekend help, just to get your feet wet and to make sure that the grass is actually greener on that side.  I am definately not trying to discourage you, just give you some info to flesh out the decision.  In the end, you should do what ever a) is going to make you a happy person and b) pays the bills.  Skilled laborers rarely get rich from their own work.  That comes from managing lots of skilled laborers and taking a (small!?) cut from each of their projects or even worse, consulting.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:Dang!  After re-reading my post, I realized that a good addition to this site would be a spell checker for postings.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:For some reason, the link in my first post isn't working.  Try this one.http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos226.htmIt carries you to the general welding page...hopefully.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:Thank you very much for your advice and comments. I have reviewed them and thought about a career in welding. If you have anything else to add please do. Your word and thoughts are very important to me.  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Matt, with your I.T. background,[if you want to get into the trades],look into machineing classes.a lot of these are run by computer now.Around here the big money is made by guys that can do welding,machineing, and millwright work and do it all well.This takes years and years of experience.but in your case find a local tech.school or comm.college a start taking classes right away.Most will be at night so you can still work during the day. Its never to late to go to school.With your background you will pick stuff up fast.
Reply:I really think you have to like what you are doing.  I through college for business, but ever since i can remember, i've always liked anything that has to do with working with my hands.  Weather it is working on cars, bikes, houses, anything like that.  Metal fab and welding have been amoung my favorite things for a very long time.  In fact, anything that has to do with metal, cutting, machining, ect,ect.  After finishing college, i realized that there is no way i want to push papers or run some ****ty store or something for the rest of my life, so i enrolled at a AWS school here, and i'm having the time of my life.  In fact, i sit here at my current job from 12:30 to like 6pm, and i wish i was back at school working on stuff, and wish the night classes were in session now, so i could go after work and practice/work more.Now, for some of the people there, i don't think they could give a s@#t, so why do it?  But for the most part, all the other guys/girls are hard chargers too, and bust thier asses.  But anyway, if you like what you do, you can accel at it much eaiser, thus opening new doors to better earning potential.
Reply:This post started of slow. There are not many welding forums either. No one answered me for days. Now I think I got the best advice by a bunch of guys who REALLY know what they are talking about. Again I want to thank you all. You have made great points and have given me great questions to ask myself. I haven't thought about anything but welding or to continue my education in IT futher. I might just do both... Why only have one skill when you can have two Best of luck to all of you.- MattPS: Sorry for the delay I was up north (WAY UP NORTH) for work with NO internet lolFeel free to continue this post if you wish. But you all have helped me out big time Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Howdy Matt....so far I can see that ya have gotten alot of good info fer ya to think about so I hope ya dont mind me adding my 2 cents worth. Its a slightly different method than the other guys have posted so far, but its workin fer me. I've been an aircraft mechanic in the Navy fer almost 20 years and gettin ready to retire this November and I'm lookin fer a change like you. I have always loved to weld and build things but never managed to finish any formal welding training due to deployments. Now that I'm gettin ready to retire I too began to think about a career in welding. I dont know if you have any classes available nearby but the closest welding class to me is 65 miles away--too far! Well I was bound and determined to not let that stop me so ( with the encouragement of a great welder from this forum)  I went to one of our local welding and fab shops and ask the owner if he would let me work there fer free in exchange fer some on the job training. He said yes and I've been workin there fer a couple of weeks now during the days since I work nights in the Navy. The owner was even kind enough that he is workin one on one with me to help me get my certs. Within the first week there the owner was already having me fabbing and welding various items and I'm learning tons of new stuff everyday. I really love the job and it has definitely help me to make up my mind that this is what I want to do fer the rest of my life. Realize of course that I dont expect to be able to get my certs in a few months...I figure that it will take at least a year or two to get my basic certs and longer to specialize in pipewelding like I plan to do. I'm planning on keeping a job in the aircraft maintenance field untill I can get my certs and make myself employable, plus I'm planning on setting up my own welding rig fer side jobs untill I can move to full time welding. The great thing about getting into it this way is that you get to learn and gain valuable experience at the same time. I dont know if ya have the free time to do something like this but its another option I thought ya might like to know about if yer seriously considering a career in welding. All I can say is thank God fer the encouragement I got from a fellow member here to go fer it and give it a shot....its turning out to be one of the best decisions I have ever made. As mentioned before you might consider working both IT and welding untill you get the experience and then switch to welding full time if you find thats what ya really want to do. Whatever yer decision make sure your heart is in it so that you will end up "living fer work instead of working to live" Best of luck to ya in whatever ya decide to do. Hoped this helped in some way.Rod
Reply:Hey Matt, I agree with Rod here.  The man has served our country and now hes making plans to serve the country in a whole new way.  I have to say hes totally right and living proof if ever one that you gotta jump in with both feet, but its good to have a line in your hand attached to the boat incase you sink.   Youve heard a lot on here, but if you dont just try youll never know.  but if you go at it like the way rod done it your maintaining a safety net incase youre unimpressed with the "real welding world"   Just my thoughts,  its all up to you partner.  But if it means something,  a man with a 20 yr navy career aint an 18 yr old recruit, hes got a lot under his belt life wise.  Would be smart cookies to give his idea a second thought.  Just my two cents  CHRIS
Reply:Yes Rods post was great. Not One sentence was taken lightly. I read it twice to be honest. As I did for the rest of the posts. After reading Rods post I thought we has 65 plus. When I sent him a private message to thank him for such good advice, I noticed he is ONLY 41 !!!!! Rod your ahead of your time ! I hope one day I can give great advice like you did. To someone in my situation now. Not to say the other posts were not as good either   Stay in touch and God bless AmericaThanks in advanceMatt
Reply:LMAO....65plus!!!!!....thanks fer the laugh Matt...now I gotta clean the coffee off of the screen...LOL. But seriously, thanks Matt and Chris fer the kind words...just want to help anybody I can with the little bit of welding knowledge I have....but watch out...I'm learnin sumthin new every day and enjoyin the Hell of it!!!. Ok Matt...yer turn to jump in there and give it hell!!!! Now..go weld something!!!Rod
Reply:Hey,about the nice fit to make a good weld,sure it helps,but people can still screw it up,it still takes skill to do a great quality weld.
Reply:Oh for sure skill is a major part of it. But if you are like Rod A.K.A Navy guy and have the passion for it and you are willing to change your career for it, than that's a whole other story  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:I just enrolled to a welding school. I'll keep you all up to date. Tx's again  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Originally Posted by mattbrookI just enrolled to a welding school. I'll keep you all up to date. Tx's again
Reply:Way'ta'go mattbrook,Study hard, weld as often as humanly possible and ask questions.  Keep us up to date.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:This is a very interesting thread to me.  Thanks Matt.  I am in a similar boat to you except that I am 52.  20+ years in IT & lost my job three years ago when my job was sent over to India.   I took too much time off before I decided to reenter the job market & then found out that there is a glut of unemployed IT types in my area.  A year ago I took a job in a factory just to get a paycheck and have really been enjoying the hands on aspect of working.  Truthfully, working IT in a large corporation had really turned boring & frustrating for me.  Anyway, last spring I took an O/A & MIG course at our local community college because I have an old car that needs some rust repair.  My instructor also works for my employer and a month ago he asked me if I would like to do some MIG steel welding since that department is way behind with the busy season approaching.  I said "Sure" and have been doing non-critical production welding for the last three weeks.  Which brings up some very real & serious questions that I need to answer.  Do I want to finish up my career as a welder because the possibility does exist for me to move into the welding department permanently.  I am taking immense satisfaction in the factory environment because I am actually building stuff & seeing results as opposed to my last IT job.  Also, I should be fairly secure as a welder, whereas I had at least six companies force me out onto the street when they either went belly up, downsized or sold the division that I was working in.  Not saying that any job/company is 100% secure, but I can't help but believe that regaining employment as a welder would be easier & quicker than as a 52 year old computer jockey.  Also, am I physically capable to work on my feet all the time?  We are currently working around 58-66 hours a week, six days a week.  And if last year is an indicator, we will soon be working seven day weeks through the end of the year.  I ain't no spring chicken no more.  And maybe most importantly, can I handle the mental aspect of production welding.  From what I have seen over the last three weeks, I am concerned that I may become bored with the work.  Or brain dead if I stick it out just for the paycheck.  However, I am enjoying getting paid to learn to weld.    So like you Matt, I have some decisions to make also.Thanks for your insights to Matt, everyone.  A lot of them pertain to me also.ScottLast edited by 330Scott; 09-03-2005 at 12:14 AM.
Reply:Hey Scott, Wow what can I say, It's like we are twins lol...   Yeah I'm sick of working for LARGE companies where the #'s are the only thing that counts. Plus the fact that you are only a # to them too. The thing about the IT field, unless you are working in hardware... they will ship it oversee's... Anything that can be done remotly, will be. I'm even starting to see them come from India to North America too.. Grrrrrrrr. I see it every day. With welding you have to on site.... If you are in the right city you will always find work and OT too... Like you I'd love to see the final product. Keep in mind there is more in welding than O/A & MIG and you can get a job in something else than production. Like anything the more you learn the more you earn. ALSO there is a boom for trades (atleast in Canada). A college degree is great but if you have too many students per job demand well... you know. You NEVER hear any parents say "you're going to welding school" lol GOOD thing too. I like to work with my hands. I can work long hours. I like to get dirty too. 12 year kids are starting to do what I do with PC's, servers and routers and that scares me. IT in North America is saturated. You do have a point though you are 52 and some companies might shy away from that. I myself try to stay in good shape because I know what it demands... My job now I sit on my butt and sometimes even pass out @ work.. shhhh don't tell my boss that  . Anyway all the guys that replied to this thread gave GREAT advice. Going out of there way just to answer some of my questions. Some even writing 3 to4 paragraphs. Ask around but only you will know what you want to do. I'll always be around. Get back to me and best of luck with whatever you do.  Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Hey all, last question.... It's there a type of welding that is in demand more than others ?Thanks in advanceMatt
Reply:Now I know why I can't find a job in IT again.....there is a glut of us 52 year old guys....I am pretty much in the same boat as you....IT is pretty dead anymore unless you're willing to be an Exchange server admin working for peanuts....  I ran a company that did very well for years but as others have stated the work went to India.  So I've been doing the community college thing and learning welding just because it interested me and I was tired of the corporate BS(30 years of it)The comment about being older, and that's relative...just ask my wife, she swears I act like a kid sometimes, is on the money.  It's interesting to see various people's reactions when you walk into a welding/fab shop and ask about work.  Some folks reactions are "what is an old guy doing here" to "wow, this guy can talk in intelligent sentences"....no slam intended against welders.... In other words not what they expected....Now I admit that my physical stamina is not going to be that of a 25 year old....and I'm in very good shape....it's just a fact of aging.  On the other hand I do have the ability to plan, organize and think things thru that maybe someone else may not.  So that's a strength in my perspective.  Again all of this is relative to what a particular job may be in a welding shop or production environment.  Every shop is different.I am finding, at least in my area, the rocky mountain region, that learning opportunities are limited for an entry level welder.  There are some MIG production openings on occasion and some TIG openings which require more experience than I currently have.  The challenge at the moment is finding a company that will take on someone like me and allow me to make my beginner mistakes in non-critical assignments.  Just my .02 cents worth.......
Reply:Hey guys,I just ran across something that might interest you.  Saturday, I was in the local bicycle shop (gas prices...whew!) getting some parts for my wife's bike.  A lady in her 50's was there picking up a couple of broken thousand-dollar frames to fix.  She has a buisness that does warantee repairs on certian brands.  Not exactly the macho pipe or structural welding with multi-hundred amp machines, but she looked like she was making good money, based on her company bmw suv.  I didnt talk to her, but I asked the guy at the shop about her.  He said that he wanted to learn to tig cause she was making more than he was running the shop.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:I bought a salvage vehicle about 3 months ago and started to learn to weld since then. And now I come home and work on my vehicle (Weld) just to let off a little steam from the demands of coding all day(  ). But I'm hooked. I'm going to the local community college and get some certifications and see what happens. So it will be coding by day and welding by night. Good to know where all the IT people have gone. Weld-Pak 100 Mig. New to welding and melting anything metal
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