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I Was Wondering If I Few People Could Point Me In The Right Direction. I Work In A Sheet Metal Union. I Do Not Get To Really Sharpen My Welding Skills As Much As I Would Like To. I Only Do Mig Mostly..i Would Leave My Job Now For A Hard Core Welding Job That I Would Get Some Good  Experience..my Job Now I Do Mostly Fab Work. I Want To Get In A Apprenticeship Where I Can Learn Alot More With Weldind..i'm Willing To Move Or Whatever It Takes For A Good Welding Job That I Can Get Some Valuable Welding Skills.any Help Would Be   Greatly Appreciated                       Thank You Very Much
Reply:Originally Posted by wareagleI Was Wondering If I Few People Could Point Me In The Right Direction. I Work In A Sheet Metal Union. I Do Not Get To Really Sharpen My Welding Skills As Much As I Would Like To. I Only Do Mig Mostly..i Would Leave My Job Now For A Hard Core Welding Job That I Would Get Some Good  Experience..my Job Now I Do Mostly Fab Work. I Want To Get In A Apprenticeship Where I Can Learn Alot More With Weldind..i'm Willing To Move Or Whatever It Takes For A Good Welding Job That I Can Get Some Valuable Welding Skills.any Help Would Be   Greatly Appreciated                       Thank You Very Much
Reply:Originally Posted by wareagleI Was Wondering If I Few People Could Point Me In The Right Direction. I Work In A Sheet Metal Union. I Do Not Get To Really Sharpen My Welding Skills As Much As I Would Like To. I Only Do Mig Mostly..i Would Leave My Job Now For A Hard Core Welding Job That I Would Get Some Good  Experience..my Job Now I Do Mostly Fab Work. I Want To Get In A Apprenticeship Where I Can Learn Alot More With Weldind..i'm Willing To Move Or Whatever It Takes For A Good Welding Job That I Can Get Some Valuable Welding Skills.any Help Would Be   Greatly Appreciated                       Thank You Very Much
Reply:In todays uncertain world of employment, if it were me, Id stay put. Atleast until things settle a bit. I dont know how much time you have in where youre at, but as with most companies, last one in is the first one out. If you really want to get better at welding, a class or two may be the ticket. Even if you still say screw it, Im going to the local welders hall, a few classes is always good.
Reply:Originally Posted by HammerIn todays uncertain world of employment, if it were me, Id stay put. Atleast until things settle a bit. I dont know how much time you have in where youre at, but as with most companies, last one in is the first one out. If you really want to get better at welding, a class or two may be the ticket. Even if you still say screw it, Im going to the local welders hall, a few classes is always good.
Reply:Originally Posted by Fat BastardI must ask when were the times of certain employment?
Reply:The 80's had the same unemployment rate we have now.  Nothing has changed except people used to work harder so and had less expensive toys so that  they didn't have to worry as much.  I grew up learning that you should do more than "do your job" because that is what drove America to greatness.  What happened to us?BTW what's wrong with really putting out?  What's wrong with hard work?  Has our mentality become so entitlement oriented that we have lost our ability to use old fashioned common sense and reason?  If we entitle a 10 year man "just doing his job" to his job, then the world will certainly put an axe to the neck of American commerce because they are willing to settle for nothing less than 110 percent output out of their workers and axe their mediocre 100 percenters.  Oh... wait... that's what has already happened. Scratch that.  Too late.The world has taken more pages from our history book and learned more from them than we ever forgot.Last edited by lugweld; 01-04-2009 at 02:11 PM.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Originally Posted by HammerBack in the 80s a man could leave one job and if he was of the mind to have one, could be gainfully employed by the end of that same day. Now it seems that a man of 10+ years doing his job really needs to step it up above and beyond just to not get noticed by the axe.
Reply:Originally Posted by lugweldThe 80's had the same unemployment rate we have now.  Nothing has changed except people used to work harder so and had less expensive toys so that  they didn't have to worry as much.  I grew up learning that you should do more than "do your job" because that is what drove America to greatness.  What happened to us?BTW what's wrong with really putting out?  What's wrong with hard work?  Has our mentality become so entitlement oriented that we have lost our ability to use old fashioned common sense and reason?  If we entitle a 10 year man "just doing his job" to his job, then the world will certainly put an axe to the neck of American commerce because they are willing to settle for nothing less than 110 percent output out of their workers and axe their mediocre 100 percenters.  Oh... wait... that's what has already happened. Scratch that.  Too late.The world has taken more pages from our history book and learned more from them than we ever forgot.
Reply:I would agree.  But the greatest proponent of making all things fair and equal have been the unions hasn't it?Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Originally Posted by lugweld What happened to us?BTW what's wrong with really putting out?  What's wrong with hard work?  Has our mentality become so entitlement oriented that we have lost our ability to use old fashioned common sense and reason?
Reply:Can I hear an AMEN!?Look at my skin color on my avatar... I fall into the "minority" status with latin blood.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Originally Posted by lugweldCan I hear an AMEN!?Look at my skin color on my avatar... I fall into the "minority" status with latin blood.
Reply:I have worked union all of my life, Dad before me as well, don't know any other way, I am from proud Polish immigrants and the thing alot of entitled union people have forgot is to give anyone you work for a good days work for a good days pay.If you aint happy move on and quit bitchin. It comes down to something that i have seen lost in the last two decades. good old fashioned pride. No one seems to care how others view them and worst yet , what they see in the mirror as long as they get paid every week. I have always worked hard and have always come home dirty and I do see the stroke artists around me, It makes me bitter I admit, but at the end of the day I gotta be me and enjoy knowing if push comes to shove, I can outwork and outlast the majority of them. I'll get off my pedestal now before I fall off."Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400
Reply:Originally Posted by kolot I'll get off my pedestal now before I fall off.