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Here are a couple of pics of a job i finished at the end of last year . I did all the fabrication of all steelwork myself . Me and two other guys from work did the erection . The building is a Church replacing one that was victim to an arsonist . St Mary`s Catholic Church Bowen .Let me know what you guys think ? Nothing in this place was  90deg it was all different angles . I might add i`m pretty glad this job is finished it all went together rather well too !www.elitesteel.net
Reply:I also fabricated a large cross for this building 5800x2800 out of 250 PFC . I don`t have a pic of it at the moment though .www.elitesteel.net
Reply:looks dangerous... being up that high would make me  you get all the fun jobs...however i dont actually see any welds..lots of nuts and bolts..but no welds......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Huh no welds ?   The purlins are always bolt on if thats what you mean ? Trust me there is a shedload of welding on this job !!www.elitesteel.net
Reply:Matt that's a whole lot of bolting. Nice job.How do you find the super Z's to use? What size were they, Z150 15?I use to fab and erect sheds and industrial - commercial buildings a lot. but I never did a church. I did however do a bell tower for a church once.Simonhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~abba/index.html
Reply:Yeah they were 150`s and thats a whole lot of welded cleats there as well . I think we got the Z`s from Tonkins steel . But i think any steel supplier should have them . They`re fairly common .www.elitesteel.net
Reply:Hmmmmm, it appears the material is all galvanized or at least electroplated with a zinc coating.  What kind of precautions do you take if you weld this stuff?I weld galvanized all the time.  The only precautions I take are to be sure there's ventilation and I'm not emersed in the fumes.  A lot of weldors here  in the states won't weld galvanized period.When you say you did all the fabricating I assume you had a set of drawings and you fab'd up the beams in the shop and then bolted and or welded them into place on site, right?On another topic, I'm in the process of getting a patent on a bracket system that enables one to build a metal building using pipe and purlins with self tapping screws, no welding period.  We're also going for the international patents on this system.Are you aware of anything like that down under?life is good
Reply:Harv It seems that most of our kit sheds these days are all screwed together, But they are made from all purlins or RHS posts and top-hats or super Z's screwed to the posts.I have seen your system and think it would be popular where I am for Hay sheds I used to get asked all the time to throw up a quick hay shed (been a drought here now for about 5 years).I have put a few links for you to see the construction method we use.http://www.bluescopesteel.com.au/ind...F500C04FCF6B8Fhttp://www.ranbuild.com.au/buildings.htmhttp://www.steelframe.com.au/kithomes.htmlI hope this may help HarvSimonhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~abba/index.htmlLast edited by welder.man; 06-04-2006 at 04:50 PM.
Reply:Harv the purlins are galvanized but you don`t weld purlins they are bolted onto cleats . If i do weld galvanized material i simply grind off the area i am going to weld . On that point i weld galvanized material with a stick welder only as it reduces alot of the spatter . I also try not to breath in any fumes .Yes i fabbed this all off of drawings supplied to me by the architect.No i have`nt heard of any such product . I don`t think anything like that could be used actually . For such a large application ? Why would you want to do away with welding ? I thought that was why we were all here . Do you have any info available at the moment ? i would love to see your system thanks !www.elitesteel.net
Reply:nice job OZBoilermaker I know the amount of work that goes to these sort of projects We did a school in Dubbo a few yrs back by the time you reach that stage most of the welding done with The stuff Simon is talking about is very good and easy to work withCreative metal Creative metal Facebook
Reply:Cheers Wello !www.elitesteel.net
Reply:OZBoilermaker have a look at the link below it's Harvey's home page heaps of interesting things to see on it.http://www.harveylacey.com/id87.htmSimonhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~abba/index.html
Reply:Originally Posted by welder.manHarv It seems that most of our kit sheds these days are all screwed together, But they are made from all purlins or RHS posts and top-hats or super Z's screwed to the posts.I have seen your system and think it would be popular where I am for Hay sheds I used to get asked all the time to throw up a quick hay shed (been a drought here now for about 5 years).I have put a few links for you to see the construction method we use.http://www.bluescopesteel.com.au/ind...F500C04FCF6B8Fhttp://www.ranbuild.com.au/buildings.htmhttp://www.steelframe.com.au/kithomes.htmlI hope this may help HarvSimonhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~abba/index.html
Reply:Harvey the shop I work from, the wife and I built, we poured the slab one weekend and the next weekend we put it up it only took about one day to stand and sheet and half of the next to finish the doors and flash it off. The whole thing came as a flat pack and was put together using tek screws, no welding or bolts.Simonhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~abba/index.html
Reply:Flat pack steel sheds come in a huge range of sizes.Lot's of homes built here these days have steel frames, too. Outside, they're usually clad in brick. Inside they're clad in wallboard (I think that's what you guys call it). The steel is lighter than timber, cheaper than timber, has holes pre drilled for cables and plumbing, screws together, and is termite resistant.Scott
Reply:I worked at a place in Queensland a while back and all I did all day was screw steel roof trusses together, 2cents per screw, very boring work. But hard to keep up with the demand for the steel frames.  We are doing some major renovations to our house at present, I have built two new rooms on the house and have made the frames completely from steel, fully welded frame and bolted the purlins in place, It has still cost me heaps less than timber would have. Our house is about 130 years old and was the original hospital, it is still in good shape, I have to replace some timber and level a sunken floor or two. I was going to use timber but the price was so much more and in my opinion steel is so much stronger and better to work with.Simonhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~abba/index.html
Reply:Hey Harv ! I may have written your idea off prematurely   and for that i apologize   ! It looks pretty good actually , i can see it being very useful for lightwieght sheds barns etc ! have you had any strenght , load rating test done at all ?Cheers Matt ! www.elitesteel.net
Reply:Originally Posted by OZBoilermakerHey Harv ! I may have written your idea off prematurely   and for that i apologize   ! It looks pretty good actually , i can see it being very useful for lightwieght sheds barns etc ! have you had any strenght , load rating test done at all ?Cheers Matt !
Reply:When we put down the roof sheets we had four male adults running around on the roof of the latest, just because we could. Attached Imageslife is good
Reply:Originally Posted by wroughtn_harvWhen we put down the roof sheets we had four male adults running around on the roof of the latest, just because we could.
Reply:Nice work HARV !www.elitesteel.net
Reply:The biggest advantage that I see of my system is how easy conventional stick construction can be used.The barn I'm making has a tack room.  I'm using 3/4 decking sheets for the inside and outside walls.  We primered and sealed the sides that won't be seen for longevity.Instead of paying two hundred plus for an exterior door made for a metal building I used a standard box store steel covered exterior prehung door that cost a hundred and five dollars.  I installed it just like I would a stick framed installation but I used self tapping screws instead of nails. Attached Imageslife is good
Reply:Once the interior walls were done then I installed the outside walls. Attached Imageslife is good
Reply:I was hoping to see some boilers with a name like boilermaker.  Those always make for some interesting welds with their heat cycling and the welding of 3" thick steel to .25" wall steel tubes.