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Here's a neat thing about tig, the really fine control you have.A useless project to be sure: Attached Images
Reply:Thats really neat, its amazing that you can have such control.  What kind of welder are you using? How is it working for you?
Reply:It's a tig welder, more info in my response to your post about my aluminum beads.I looked at some of your other posts and see you are 14 and don't have a welder (Yet, of course!). I'm an old fart of 43 which probably sounds ancient to you, but watch out, blink your eyes and you'll be here too!! The good thing is you still feel 14 in your head when your 43 on the outside.Anyway any thoughts or prospects on getting a welder? At least you are getting an early start. when I was 14 we didn't have the internet, or pc's for that matter. How did we learn anything back then???- John
Reply:What kind of rod do you use to weld quarters ?  While I'm on that subject, is there any ill effect to use stainless rod to weld mild steel ?   Just wondering?Not a beginner, not a pro !
Reply:Hey runchman:Nice job.....I wonder what one of those would do to an automatic toll both machine?.....Patrick
Reply:I didn't use any rod, just fused together the existing metal. Does a serious tarnish job on the quarters though.
Reply:Originally Posted by Planewelder While I'm on that subject, is there any ill effect to use stainless rod to weld mild steel ?   Just wondering?
Reply:Something else that fun to do is weld razor blades together but you have to weld blade to blade in a triangular shape. Its not that hard to do if you fuse weld them together.Strive For Perfection
Reply:Originally Posted by BrooksSomething else that fun to do is weld razor blades together but you have to weld blade to blade in a triangular shape. Its not that hard to do if you fuse weld them together.
Reply:P.S. (Yeah zap I know Im not even remotely close!)
Reply:Neat but isn't that considered defacing or illegally damaging US currency? Be careful what you post on the 'net.John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:Originally Posted by MicroZoneNeat but isn't that considered defacing or illegally damaging US currency? Be careful what you post on the 'net.
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterif you go to Don Garlits's Museum in Ocala Fla. you can put change in a machine that will squish it into the Museum logo..is that legal?...zap!
Reply:Your right! When I went to the Richard Petty museum in NC, near my bro, they have the same penny destruction/creation machine. Hmmm....John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:It is not illegal.  Please see link.  It says, in part... "Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States"   Key word here is "fraudulently".
Reply:Originally Posted by runchmanI tried this with a butt-weld, no luck at all the thing just vaporized in front of me.A couple nights ago I tried welding together some aluminum cans, could not get that to go either. Guess Im not quite zap yet - John
Reply:like this? Attached Images
Reply:This is what I found...TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 17 - COINS AND CURRENCY§ 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations “Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, orunites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill,draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national bankingassociation, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System,with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note, or other evidenceof debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title orimprisoned not more than six months, or both.”http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/caseco...ction_333.htmlI am not a lawyer, but I would be careful not to do anything that would get the feds after me.Last edited by smithboy; 01-04-2007 at 05:50 AM.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:Somehow I can't imagine the feds spending their money to knock down my door and haul me off to prison, because I welded 2 quarters together. But it's the government, so who knows
Reply:smithboy; you're two subsections too low.  Plese see the link I posted above.-Razer
Reply:Bad Boy,  Bad Boy,  Whata Gona Doooo  When They Come For You
Reply:Originally Posted by razersmithboy; you're two subsections too low.  Plese see the link I posted above.-Razer
Reply:Originally Posted by weldingman24like this?
Reply:Originally Posted by littlefuzzI don't remember ever seeing Zap weld any cans togather.  I tried but utterly FAILED!  I even tried cutting the can apart and laying 2 pieces flat with a butt weld, didn't work for me.  It stuck in a couple of places but mostly blowed holes.  I did get the razor blade thing though.  Come on Zap, how about a can?  If ya can do it I'll try again and yall can laugh at my results
Reply:Not to quibble but those don't look like razor blades to me, but rather knife blades for a stanley-type carpenter knife. i.e. a mile thick compared to a real razor blade Please tell us it isn't so, oh zen-master ....- JohnOriginally Posted by runchmanNot to quibble but those don't look like razor blades to me, but rather knife blades for a stanley-type carpenter knife. i.e. a mile thick compared to a real razor blade Please tell us it isn't so, oh zen-master ....- John
Reply:i'll go see dad over the weekend and get the real old double sided razors and make everyone happy.. ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:That's the section SMITHBOY, thanks. It was just an FYI on my part. You know how there are erratic people all over the internet and who knows what might be transferred to an "authority". Just looking out for my welding bretheren. John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:Originally Posted by MicroZoneThat's the section SMITHBOY, thanks. It was just an FYI on my part. You know how there are erratic people all over the internet and who knows what might be transferred to an "authority". Just looking out for my welding bretheren.
Reply:Hahaha...that's right you did, didn't you?! John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:I wish I could find the picture where I tig welded a dime to a EGR plate.  no more tigging dimes to that stuff.  What a pain just because we were to cheap to buy a block off plate.
Reply:Originally Posted by runchmanSomehow I can't imagine the feds spending their money to knock down my door and haul me off to prison, because I welded 2 quarters together. But it's the government, so who knows
Reply:Originally Posted by runchmanYes, true, there are whackos out there aren't there. That's why I've carefully ground out the weld and restored the quarters to full circulation. wink, wink.- John
Reply:here ya go John 2 single sided razors welded together not meaning to be a smartazz just showing the pics Creative metal Creative metal Facebook
Reply:Originally Posted by RoosterBoyhi weldingman24 that's cool what model welder and settings did you use?thanksJason
Reply:Originally Posted by smithboyEach section stands on its own.  Each "whoever" starts a new part of the law.  I am pretty sure this applies as stated.  Fraudulent intent is one part of the law.  Defacing by itself is another.  However, I am not absolutely sure if coins are considered part of the "issuance" of the federal reserve.  If it is, damaging them, even without intent to commit fraud "may" be a federal crime.  Remember the Secret Service holds jurisdiction over crimes involving the currency.http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/caseco...rs/17/toc.htmlThis is each of the sections under the criminal code involving federal currencies.  I would not want to be close to committing a federal crime.  I realize this is pretty trivial (two quarters), but you never know what someone with a badge might fixate on.
Reply:I see.  That's a very good point and I believe you're right.  However, I would not want to be splitting hairs with a Secret Service agent when I am trying to explain that I can damage a $1 coin, but not a $1 federal reserve note or dollar bill.  But, based on that differentiation, I think you are right, but then again...(disclaimer) I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV.  Anyway, if they come looking for a guy that tack-welds two quarters together, I'M PROBABLY ALREADY IN TROUBLE!!!Last edited by smithboy; 01-05-2007 at 07:16 AM.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:Wello,I can't help but notice that you welded two blades together that were made in the USA.  I was under the impression that we didn't export ANYTHING.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:if its ok for him to weld 2 quarters togather, dose that mean it would be ok for me to do 50 pennies? how about 5000 of them ? if i call it art when its done dose it still count as defacing or is it now improving??we have one of them pennie smashers at the zoo here also, so if i smash them in a state run zoo befor welding them dose that make it ok cuzz the state authorized the smash, making it no longer leagal tender??? summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:Originally Posted by wellohere ya go John 2 single sided razors welded together not meaning to be a smartazz just showing the pics
Reply:on steel i would think just low amps would fuse it prety easy, small filler would also be a must, maybe some MIG wire. summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:Originally Posted by runchmanWell I'm duly impressed. What's the secret? i.e. pulser or just low current...I'm guessing that it's easier if you are located below the equator... - John
Reply:hey is welding up or down easyer when you are down under.LOL  summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.