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Here is a cabe rail I built and installed a few weeks ago. I didn't want visible turnbuckles, so this is what I came up with. The cables are of ss, the rail is mild steel.Here's the way I wrapped the wire for brazing. That is a 1/4" tubing ferrule The washers are also brazed. I did a third inside his house. On that I used low temp silver alloy. On the exterior rails I used bronze, since it had to be powdercoated. I wasn't sure of the melting temp of the low temp silver. After brazing the cable is solid and easy to grind.This is just a 1/2" bolt, center dirlled, the nut provides cable tension.I wrote in the contract that I would not be responsible for cracked slate. This was sitting on top of brick and got messed up pretty badly. The client now wants shoes.Last edited by tapwelder; 05-24-2008 at 10:40 AM.
Reply:Very nice, did you braze the bolt on the end of the wire?John - fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!- bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:very nifty i like the way that came out63' Lincoln SA200 2008 miller trailblazer 302fibre-metal pipelinermiller camo BWEand all the guns and ammo a growin boy needs
Reply:there somethin new for me... I use that stuff for my radio tower...LOL Unit in my fab shop dept:my good hand and team that trust me...A lone welder make art... a village full of welder make Miracles...
Reply:That looks really cool. Good job.On a side note: I'm a home inspector, I see that you are in TN. Not 100% sure what code they are using, I believe it's the IRC (International Residential Code). If it is, Im pretty sure that code states the balusters (which in this case is the wire) have to be spaced so that a 4" sphere cannot pass through. And the triangle part at the bottom corners is supposed to be so that a 6" sphere cannot pass through. Having said all that, if this is not new construction, and/or the rail is not being inspected (assuming you didn't pull a permit if needed) then this point is moot. I would think that worst case scenario, if the home owner or a visitor has a small child and that child were to fall through and get hurt or killed, than you could be liable for constructing something that was not made to the current code in that jurisdiction.Good job, not knocking it at all.Just my .02 cents from a Florida home inspector. Its funny how we all look at things differently from our own trades. Its like the thread on here where another member went to the space museum and ended up taking pictures of the welds!
Reply:great job what would a job like that costhave you ever seen outwater thy sell cable ends
Reply:Tim M I thought the same thing about them not being code. My second thought was that it looked great. Simple and effective for what it should do, which is keep someone from stepping off the side of the steps.I hate the fact that now days you can't make something as nice looking as this and have to worry about it being code or not. It's not that far to fall. I survived much worse as a child, most likely any of us past 30 did. Its a sad world we live in today where we must protect every one from every posible stupid thing that they may do.
Reply:If I remember correctly that code doesn't apply if you're deck/porch/whatever is under 32" high.Could be wrong though.Cool railing anyway!
Reply:Novel solution Tapper, neat and elegant.Looks good pity about the slate (I hate working on the stuff), hows the client taking it ?are they being understanding?That rail would comply in Australia as you are under no requirement to put a balustrade in until you have a 1.0m fall. After that you need to comply. Before that it is purely ascetics. For our wire assemblies we cannot use them if the fall is 4.0m or more and our wires (3.2mm wire with 1500mm between posts) need to be 80mm apart.Keep posting these they are great Tapper.BrettA good guess is better than a bad measurement
Reply:Thanks guysThe wire and bolt are not brazed together.The porch is below the requirement for a rail. However, I work for a builder in Gallatin, TN. He said they are requiring a railing on anything over 2 steps. Ed I really did not know how to proceed with this job. There is probably 3 hrs of fabrication after a month of thought. There is a sling manufacturer down the road from me who make lots of cable rails, so I had access to the prefab stuff. I just decided to fab stuff myself.I built the three rails for $3200. On thing I learned. This steel tubing had a very pronounced (concave) seam. It would be a good idea to keep track of where the seam will face after the rail is built. On the inside rail the seam was to the outside, I noticed it, the client didn't. I have never tought about it until then.
Reply:$3,200.00? that seems like a good price Tapper, I wouldn't get that here.In our wire assemblies we use the male and female threaded swage terminals. As neat as brazing but much quicker. Alot neater than the old thimble and turnbuckle.A good guess is better than a bad measurement
Reply:Tapwelder:Nice, clean AND adjustable. Originally Posted by BrettIn our wire assemblies we use the male and female threaded swage terminals. As neat as brazing but much quicker. Alot neater than the old thimble and turnbuckle.
Reply:Originally Posted by Craig in DenverTBrett: Do you have a photo? I don't understand. Anything is neater than a thimble and turnbuckle. Thanks, Craig
Reply:This is one of those cases where "ignorance is bliss". Had I known what I was doing I would have offered a lower price. Ironic, more knowledge less income.My sling guy offered the swage assemblies.My initial thinking was to put everything inside the post. and have no exposed ends. I was going to run a rod down inside the post. then twist the rod inside the post to tension the wire. I think I abandoned that idea because of over planning and no progress toward completion.
Reply:Originally Posted by tapwelderThis is one of those cases where "ignorance is bliss". Had I known what I was doing I would have offered a lower price. Ironic, more knowledge less income.
Reply:thanks tw did you check out (outwater .com)
Reply:heres a page i scaned Attached Images
Reply:www.ultra-tec.com i've used them for cable railing systems before, they have systems for hiding the turnbuckle type apparatus inside steel tubing.
Reply:Oh, I get it. Thanks for the answers. 9-11-2001......We Will Never ForgetRetired desk jockey. Hobby weldor with a little training. Craftsman O/A---Flat, Vert, Ovhd, Horz. Miller Syncrowave 250
Reply:Thanks guys. That really looks simple.
Reply:We use a slightly different system where you physically swage on a terminal, bit hard to tell but is that the system that cam locks on similar to a plumbers olive? The terminals we are set up for can be a female thread , a male thread or even a timber thread and they are all available in either left or right hand threads.http://jgtrading.clarimont.com.au/Catalogues.aspxShows a lot of whats available.... careful some pdfs are nearly 10 mb Some typical applications (no thats not me in the pic )I would certainly recommend you look into them when tendering your next one Tapper.Brett Attached ImagesA good guess is better than a bad measurement |
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