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Screw The Oil Companies, I'm Gonna Make Me A Wood Boiler!

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Ya I decided I would use some of those thousands of Federal Reserve Notes that I would have been spending on heating oil to buy the materials to make me an outside pallet burning boiler! Gota get busy thou, that real cold weather up here in the Northeast aint far off Here's a pic of what alittle under 2000 bucks buys now adays for steel......... Attached ImagesLast edited by Giant Guy; 10-11-2007 at 09:15 PM.
Reply:oh boy... be safe Me!
Reply:Originally Posted by Me!oh boy... be safe
Reply:I used an old 1000 gallon storage tank, and put a waste oil drip system on it. That baby heats my buddys extra large shop up in no time.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Originally Posted by TozziWeldingI used an old 1000 gallon storage tank, and put a waste oil drip system on it. That baby heats my buddys extra large shop up in no time.
Reply:The outdoor wood boilers they manufacture on the market now a days are huge. Central boilers smallest I believe is 350 gallons or so. And thats way smaller than the pallet burners.  Up north in the UP of michigan we stayed in a huge cabin with a homemade boiler. The inner firebox was made out of a 50 galon hot water heater and the outer looked exactly like a 55 gallon drum but big enuff to have about 8-10 inches between the fire box and the  outer shell. It is about 12 years old now.  I don't know how it doesn't leak but if it was going to I imagine it woulda hapened by now.  Most use SS components to prevent the corrosion that will happen, boiler antifreeze is highly coorosive.  This sounds like a neat project. Any help you need with pump or pipe sizing for BTU loads and info I'll be glad to help if you don't already have it covered.500 AMP AIRCO TIG LINCOLN PT185 100% DC @ 128 AMP-WTFSPEED GLASS 9002X MILLER THUNDERBOLT 225HOBBIEST TURNED WELDING JUNKIE8 2ND FIRECAT - SNOWMOBILE RACE CHASSIS FABRICATORPRIDE IS WHAT MAKES YOUR WORK SO GOOD
Reply:Keep us updated as you progress. Sounds like a cool project.
Reply:I started an outside wood heater project a few years back and it got put on the back burner. No pun intended. The way heating cost are going I may have to dust it off. I had planed to use a factory built wood heater and just box it in with ductwork and a fan with a thermostat to push the hot air inside.SA200,Ranger8,Trailblazer251NT,MM250,Dayton225AC,T  D-XL75,SpoolMate3545SGA100C,HF-15-1  RFCS-14 When I stick it, it stays stuck!
Reply:OK, got a chance to work on it a bit today. Cut holes in the three sides of the firebox to install "stay plugs"? Not sure what you call them, just some 1" round to help support the firebox wall to the water jacket wall. Will stay to weld up the sides to the bottom of the firebox tomorrow. Attached Images
Reply:Here's one side done with the Stay Plugs.... Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by PLUMMERThe outdoor wood boilers they manufacture on the market now a days are huge. Central boilers smallest I believe is 350 gallons or so. And thats way smaller than the pallet burners.  Up north in the UP of michigan we stayed in a huge cabin with a homemade boiler. The inner firebox was made out of a 50 galon hot water heater and the outer looked exactly like a 55 gallon drum but big enuff to have about 8-10 inches between the fire box and the  outer shell. It is about 12 years old now.  I don't know how it doesn't leak but if it was going to I imagine it woulda hapened by now.  Most use SS components to prevent the corrosion that will happen, boiler antifreeze is highly coorosive.  This sounds like a neat project. Any help you need with pump or pipe sizing for BTU loads and info I'll be glad to help if you don't already have it covered.
Reply:Originally Posted by mooseyeI started an outside wood heater project a few years back and it got put on the back burner. No pun intended. The way heating cost are going I may have to dust it off. I had planed to use a factory built wood heater and just box it in with ductwork and a fan with a thermostat to push the hot air inside.
Reply:Progress update. As you can see I have the top, bottom and two sides of the firebox together.I placed the MM210 inside just so you can see a size reference. What do you think of my welds? Attached Images
Reply:Alright I've done some checking and I have it on good authority that you can't "Boil wood" You end up with Charcoal ...Snicker, snicker ..... sorry just in one of those moods this morning ... a little levity ... yeah I know "very little" ..O, by the way looks like a good start on your project.... Nice work, let us know how it works for you.Washman
Reply:Nice welds, and that's gonna be one hell of a wood burner. Make sure you leave a space for the ash to fall and be easily removed after a few months or years depending on usage.
Reply:check out the central boiler website and or some other brands. They will give you diagrams  or literature of their products. Thus you will be able to get a couple reall good ideas. A nice add on might be the screw type ash remover. I mean since your welds are that nice might as well add some more workmanship to it.  its those little extras that really make the difference. Taper/funnel on bottom for easy collection to one screw. An old ice auger comes to mind for a cheap part. Important part also is the door gasket, this is a critical area to maximize efficiency.  Also note the roof in the central boiler for maximum heat transfer and total combustion.  That is big for sure. Couple  1 1/2  female openings for your manifold/ primary secondary loops and a boiler drain for cleanout/flushing.  1/2" for temp and pressure probe.  How thick is that firebox wall. Looks big.  Nice unit and welds again.500 AMP AIRCO TIG LINCOLN PT185 100% DC @ 128 AMP-WTFSPEED GLASS 9002X MILLER THUNDERBOLT 225HOBBIEST TURNED WELDING JUNKIE8 2ND FIRECAT - SNOWMOBILE RACE CHASSIS FABRICATORPRIDE IS WHAT MAKES YOUR WORK SO GOOD
Reply:Great project. I said the same thing to the oil companies and got a corn stove for this winter. I don't have to build it and it feeds itself.  Got it relatively FREE. John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:Where are you located giant guy? I noticed it said Northeast.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Originally Posted by TozziWeldingWhere are you located giant guy? I noticed it said Northeast.
Reply:Not to far, I go up to Manch all the time. My cousin lives there. Better than going through Franconia notch to my buddys grandparents house.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Originally Posted by PLUMMERcheck out the central boiler website and or some other brands. They will give you diagrams  or literature of their products. Thus you will be able to get a couple really good ideas. A nice add on might be the screw type ash remover. I mean since your welds are that nice might as well add some more workmanship to it.  its those little extras that really make the difference. Taper/funnel on bottom for easy collection to one screw. An old ice auger comes to mind for a cheap part. Important part also is the door gasket, this is a critical area to maximize efficiency.  Also note the roof in the central boiler for maximum heat transfer and total combustion.  That is big for sure. Couple  1 1/2  female openings for your manifold/ primary secondary loops and a boiler drain for cleanout/flushing.  1/2" for temp and pressure probe.  How thick is that firebox wall. Looks big.  Nice unit and welds again.
Reply:Originally Posted by MicroZoneGreat project. I said the same thing to the oil companies and got a corn stove for this winter. I don't have to build it and it feeds itself.  Got it relatively FREE.
Reply:Originally Posted by TozziWeldingNot to far, I go up to Manch all the time. My cousin lives there. Better than going through Franconia notch to my buddys grandparents house.
Reply:Originally Posted by 65535Nice welds, and that's gonna be one hell of a wood burner. Make sure you leave a space for the ash to fall and be easily removed after a few months or years depending on usage.
Reply:Originally Posted by WashmanAlright I've done some checking and I have it on good authority that you can't "Boil wood" You end up with Charcoal ...Snicker, snicker ..... sorry just in one of those moods this morning ... a little levity ... yeah I know "very little" ..O, by the way looks like a good start on your project.... Nice work, let us know how it works for you.WashmanLooking good so far.I made one a couple years ago and still use it.  I used a 48" dia. pipe 10' long (1/4" wall) as a water tank, with a 36" dia. pipe 51" long (3/8" wall) as the firebox, mounted inside the larger pipe.  I ran the smoke from the back wall of the firebox through 8" dia. pipes twice through the water tank before exiting out the top.  The firebox door has a water jacket.Here's a few pics just after it was installed; at the time, the shed I put it in was unfinished/uninsulated and I didn't have the damper controls or the forced air draft installed yet.Nice not having to split much wood; I do split some, but only because it's otherwise too heavy to lift into the stove.Brent Attached Images
Reply:Gubah1, What a cool idea, two rounds one inside the other. How many hours did you have involved in making your boiler?
Reply:OK, Alittle more progress, front fire box panel wewlded up. I think I put a bit too much heat to get, OH WELL!!!! Attached Images
Reply:This will make it more fun in about 6 more steps....... Attached Images
Reply:Getting set up to cut out the door opening... Attached Images
Reply:A hammer will straighten that out in quick order...
Reply:all set for a cut.... Attached Images
Reply:Fast easy cut .... Attached Images
Reply:Should have lower the amps or pulled the torch faster, oh well . Attached Images
Reply:Getting the other side set up for a cut and what happens, why didn't anyone tell me we'd get showers today. I really didn't want to get this thing wet and have to rub up against the rusty steel........... OH well that's why I'm in here now and not out there getting more done  Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by TinbasherA hammer will straighten that out in quick order...
Reply:Looks like you're doing just fine to me. Can't wait to see the finished product. Keep the pics coming.
Reply:Ok, after the shower stopped yesterday I finished cutting out the door opening......... Attached Images
Reply:Here's a video showing part of the top of the door opening cutting. I had my cutting line just a tad too close to one of the legs of the weld, when you see the blow back that's what I'm hitting.http://youtube.com/watch?v=EBpRaAtSOs4Last edited by Giant Guy; 10-21-2007 at 11:30 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by Giant GuyGubah1, What a cool idea, two rounds one inside the other. How many hours did you have involved in making your boiler?
Reply:Originally Posted by Giant GuyHere's a video showing part of the top of the door opening cutting. I had my cutting line just a tad too close to one of the legs of the weld, when you see the blow back that's what I'm hitting.http://youtube.com/watch?v=EBpRaAtSOs4
Reply:Originally Posted by TBDis that a Riland Plasma cutter?
Reply:Originally Posted by qubah1I'm really not sure; I worked on it off and on over a month or so, sometimes with the help of others.   I'm definitely no professional, so your progress will likely be a lot better.Keep your pictures coming, they're interesting to see.Brent
Reply:wow... i guess this is jut a testiment to the phrase "Big Boys Like Big Toys." hehehe i can't believe how bigthese things are getting. i would kill to ahve a shop big enough to put that into. someday... someday... i think i may make a much smaller version (~20-25 foot by 30-35 foot shop [600-875 sp. ft.]) and maybe not use the "boiler" asspect... maybe just a small wood-burning stove. is it a possibility to use these things as pre/post heaters / furnaces? i don't see why not, but has anyone used their heater for a parts heater before? if so, how well does it work? i'd like to have a multi-tasking tool if possiblelater,Andy
Reply:Last edited by GiantTechGuy; 01-12-2008 at 10:26 PM.http://www.PlasmaMetalCutter.comGiantTech Cut40DGiantTech Cut50DGiantTech CT520DGiantTech Tig200sGiantTech Arc200GiantTech Tig200PACDCMiller MM210No Brand Chinese Chop SawNo Brand Chinese 4" Angle Grinder
Reply:So, is the boiler done yet ? We've had some nice mild temps, get out there and work on it! John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:This is just the type of project I have been looking for.  My friend is in the tree cutting business and wants to build a wood burning water heater for his new pool.  He pays to dump all the oak and pine wood a person could ever burn!!Can't wait to see how you do the  piping  and fire box.thanksjjim
Reply:Here's the 1st half of that above cut... http://www.youtube.com/v/kx1kywRcd8Y&rel=1http://www.PlasmaMetalCutter.comGiantTech Cut40DGiantTech Cut50DGiantTech CT520DGiantTech Tig200sGiantTech Arc200GiantTech Tig200PACDCMiller MM210No Brand Chinese Chop SawNo Brand Chinese 4" Angle Grinder
Reply:Just ran across this thread a few weeks ago, I just built a new house and purchased a unit made by a local fabricator very similar to woodmasters model, and thinking about fabricating my own for a relative.  Just wondering how your doing on yours?
Reply:here is mine...this is  wnter 7..never had a problem yet Attached Images
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