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Thought I would share some pictures of my 1950 Allis Chalmers WD I restored. the sheet metal was in pretty rough shape, I had to do quite a bit of welding and hammering to get everything straight again. This was also my first try at doing my own painting, it is dupont paint with Imron clear.Gary Attached Images
Reply:Not bad...Too bad it was an Allis though, an Ollie would have been better.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:That looks GREAT!!!!!! I am an AC owner myself. Mine is a 6080 serial number 7711, the last 6080 off of the line was 7714. Thiswas made the day before AC closed the doors forever.Do you post to the unofficial allis forum??http://www.allischalmers.com/these guys would like to see that tractor.G3miller... 225g, s32p, 250x, 304, 12vs, MSW41     victor o/a thermal dynamics cutmaster 50 lenco panel spotter        hobart hf-boxG3 Farms.....raising cattle, hay, kids and hell, ...oh yeah I'm a fire sprinkler contractor by trade.
Reply:Have you always had this AC?  or did you visit a place in Woodsboro MDVery nice restoration.  I love those AC machines weld it like you own it
Reply:Fantastic - once had an Allis Ca - loved that tractorA butterfly without wings, is just an ugly bug
Reply:THAT is awesome!  Makes me pine for my '55 International Farmall 100 that I left behind in NY (sold to a friend).MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:That is a thing of beauty man.Did you have any problems with the gas tank?.  Sometimes they're in pretty rough shape when you do a resto.  Lot of pinholes.  There's some product I saw in Hemmings that you can put in the tank to coat, and seal it.The final drives at the axle look reminiscant of a riceland tractor with the drop.  Is that a usual thing with the WD?  My 190 takes 90w in the outer axle, and the trans takes trans hydraulic.  I wonder if the design carried thru to later years.  Is your entire rear using the same type of oil?And, is the engine sleeved?  My old H International has a sleeved engine, and I wondered if it was a pretty well across the board design in those years.It's a labor of love, and the lighting on the one pic does it justice.Thanks"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Trivia question here..How did AC get the idea of the color for thier tractors?Im no tractor guru, I wish I was, the story was told to me and was just wondering if anyone else heard of it. weld it like you own it
Reply:Mr. Allis wanted red and Mr. Chalmers wanted yellow or the other way around?MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55Mr. Allis wanted red and Mr. Chalmers wanted yellow or the other way around?
Reply:What's really something, is that during the war years in the 40's a red Farmall would slowly change to orange over the years.  It had something to do with war rationed pigment or something.  Cool stuff."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by lewrayTrivia question here..How did AC get the idea of the color for thier tractors?Im no tractor guru, I wish I was, the story was told to me and was just wondering if anyone else heard of it.
Reply:So What's The Story Lewray????"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Iron wheels were also common on war year tractors.  Saved rubber.  We hadn't come up with synthetic rubber yet."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammWhat's really something, is that during the war years in the 40's a red Farmall would slowly change to orange over the years.  It had something to do with war rationed pigment or something.  Cool stuff.
Reply:Originally Posted by lewrayYep heard that one too...
Reply:Four cow heads in a row..  lol  Sam,  Im trying to keep you hangin.C'mon anyone else?The story goes (from what I was told)   That he was trying to find a color that would stick out and grab the attenion of a passer byer.  As in a person seeing his tractor in a field far away in the distance.Playing Paul Harvey here...wait for       "The rest of the story"  weld it like you own it
Reply:I'll check the serial no's too"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammThey wanted to beat Kubota to the trick
Reply:Originally Posted by lewrayFour cow heads in a row..  lol  Sam,  Im trying to keep you hangin.C'mon anyone else?The story goes (from what I was told)   That he was trying to find a color that would stick out and grab the attenion of a passer byer.  As in a person seeing his tractor in a field far away in the distance.Playing Paul Harvey here...wait for       "The rest of the story"
Reply:I have to wait for kibby ...this is his threadhe might be able to shed more on the story weld it like you own it
Reply:Oh Crap, we ruined his thread.  Sorry"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammOh Crap, we ruined his thread.  Sorry
Reply:QUIT!!!!"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:OK, at least this is related and very interesting reading so hopefully kibby won't mind.  Besides, I make sure to scroll up and look at his photos each time so...http://www.simpletractors.com/parts/paint_codes.htmAC even used GREEN in the late 20's early 30's!MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!That is a beautiful tractor!  You did an excellent job restoring it!  I grew up in a Northern IL and have friends who restored old A/Cs and they would love this!  My uncle farms and he has an old Massey Harris!Here is what I have so Far:Miller:Shop Master 300 A A/C D/CS 22a Wire FeederRFC-14 Tig PedalHF-251D High Freq. UnitProfax 250 A Mig GunVictor RegulatorsHarris:63-2 torch Cutting Attachment 49-3making home built tig cooler
Reply:that is one FINE *** tractor
Reply:Looks great.  I love seeing an older tractor like that saved.
Reply:Excellent job, Kibby. I have a '53 CA sitting in the pasture that my Dad bought new. I have been planning on bring it back to life for quite a while but can't seem to get started. Allis built great tractors, hated to see them go away.I bought a Kubota earlier this year. It's color was one factor in deciding to buy it.
Reply:Glad you guys like my Allis, it has been in the family for many years.  It has all the original sheet metal on it and it took me about 8 months to finish. it's amazing to see the direction these post take sometimes, I had a good laugh reading this tread this morning.thanksGary
Reply:If I remember right the story of the paint change to Persian Orange is in the Allis history book by C H Wendel. Looks like a really nice job with the painting.
Reply:gorgeous resto !  What shape was the engine in ?-Graham-Mechanical EngineerAutosport Mechanic/Fabricator
Reply:persian orange is the color."And Now..... The Rest of The Story"Mr Ac was traveling down the countryside talking to a friend about his concern about the right color of his tractors when suddenly he noticed an orange colored flower in the distance.  He thought to himself  what a lovely color in the middle of wide open green field.  How it stuck out from such a distsance.  And then.... thats when he discovered persian orange. " And Now You Know ....The Rest of The Story" weld it like you own it
Reply:Originally Posted by lewraypersian orange is the color."And Now..... The Rest of The Story"Mr Ac was traveling down the countryside talking to a friend about his concern about the right color of his tractors when suddenly he noticed an orange colored flower in the distance.  He thought to himself  what a lovely color in the middle of wide open green field.  How it stuck out from such a distsance.  And then.... thats when he discovered persian orange. " And Now You Know ....The Rest of The Story"
Reply:Originally Posted by lewraypersian orange is the color."And Now..... The Rest of The Story"Mr Ac was traveling down the countryside talking to a friend about his concern about the right color of his tractors when suddenly he noticed an orange colored flower in the distance.  He thought to himself  what a lovely color in the middle of wide open green field.  How it stuck out from such a distsance.  And then.... thats when he discovered persian orange. " And Now You Know ....The Rest of The Story"
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammSo that's it??????????  I've been sittin' here on tender/tinder? heels since midnite last nite, staring at the screen, eyes goin' bleary, hands shaking, coffee runnin' down my chin..........
Reply:That's good Lewray - Now is there any chance you could help Alfred figure out how Mary Kay came up with the ***** pink Cadillacs? Don't torture him waiting with any long dragged out answer either!
Reply:This thread has been utterly destroyed.  I hope the OP doesn't own a gun."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Man you two are a riot toniteI could go on about my Pappy who had ( i counted) over 200 tractors,  some ofcourse not running, spread over 500 acres.  Some rusted up bad some painted up.  And AC being his most favorite.  From B models  to C models   Deeres and Olies too.When he got into his late 60s he gave up the dairy thing and only had interest in tractors and makin coal runs to PA weld it like you own it
Reply:Barbara Bach on a fully restored WD-45................  Please someone put up a postable pic of DaisyLewray is Googlin' as we speak"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepThat's good Lewray - Now is there any chance you could help Alfred figure out how Mary Kay came up with the ***** pink Cadillacs? Don't torture him waiting with any long dragged out answer either!
Reply:Nice job on the tractor.Here's one of mine:A 1937 Massey-Harris Challenger Attached ImagesCo-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.&  2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:Now, I'm showin' my ignorance.Is that a bathtub frame, or is the engine actually part of the frame.  It's hard to tell"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:You men probably wouldn't even bother stopping at a sale like the one I saw last spring:Attachment 25839Attachment 25840Sorry Kibby Last edited by denrep; 08-24-2009 at 11:19 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammBarbara Bach on a fully restored WD-45................  Please someone put up a postable pic of DaisyLewray is Googlin' as we speak
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55OK - here ya go.  Now settle down.
Reply:Denrep.... Greeen paint goes for wayyyy toooo much around here.  I think it's a marketing thing.  They all seem to fall apart over time with equal gusto.  Red, orange, green, yellow....  It's all grease covered iron in the end"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:specter,  that is a awesome old tractor. Can't say I ever saw one. Do you plan on restoring it?
Reply:Bathtub on what??If you mean that 1937 no it isn't thats actual engine.And yes it actually runsCo-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.&  2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:I gotsa   tractor story , & here it  "R". In 1958 , my dad (self employed backhoe operator, wanted a NEW tractor . We cleaned up & painted his Ford NAA (1953 ) , then he traded it in (San Francisco) to the case dealer for a new case (model 310 ?) w/loader and backhoe . I hated that case . Lousy brakes . Non existant . The Ford looked so good ,the dealer put it in his showroom . Did NOT start it for a month ! Then, when he did , the clutch stuck or some thing- it took off & went right through the wall of the showroom , into the street . They called up my dad , & wanted him to pay damages . My dad just laughed at them &" their" FORD tractor .[SIZE="5"Yardbird"