Look what I found under the bed

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My father calls and says.."I found some rust under the bed"    Im like  'what"?   Looks like its been in Davy Jones locker for 10 years86 toyota 4wd     Since he still loves his topper, he wont settle for a nice custom flat bed  And yes its only his farm truckThis oughta be fun...... weld it like you own it
Reply:The muffler is holding that thing together.   Time for a tube frame and make a rock crawler out of it.  Won't your dad be impressed!Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Originally Posted by lugweldThe muffler is holding that thing together.   Time for a tube frame and make a rock crawler out of it.  Won't your dad be impressed!
Reply:Is there any possibility you can come up with a newer frame?I'm definitely not an expert on frames, but it looks like it can't be rebuilt.  Even the part that hasn't holed yet might have many mils gone from rust.  Getting to clean metal would take even more.Maybe a rear clip assy.?"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:But if it never goes on the highway, Hell why not have a go at it.  Couldn't hurt."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:At least it ain't got termites as well!!    Attached ImagesCity of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammIs there any possibility you can come up with a newer frame?I'm definitely not an expert on frames, but it looks like it can't be rebuilt.  Even the part that hasn't holed yet might have many mils gone from rust.  Getting to clean metal would take even more.Maybe a rear clip assy.?
Reply:I'm the same with my old Dodge.  Thankfully it was made with a standard channel ladder frame that doesn't collect moisture."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by tanglediverAt least it ain't got termites as well!!
Reply:In the medical profession they say DNR.....(Do Not Resuscitate)Let it go into the bright light of the junk yard...
Reply:lewray, not sure where in tn you are, but there is a toyota junk yard in vonore that deals only in toyota trucks. the name is whites auto sales, 1726 hwy. 411, 423-884-6075. i know nothing of them except where they are. maybe you could find a frame there.hthG3miller... 225g, s32p, 250x, 304, 12vs, MSW41     victor o/a thermal dynamics cutmaster 50 lenco panel spotter        hobart hf-boxG3 Farms.....raising cattle, hay, kids and hell, ...oh yeah I'm a fire sprinkler contractor by trade.
Reply:Tube it!! Tube it!!   Show off your welding prowess and let us all be in awe.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:hey or u could back half it like we do in building a baja truck u can still put the original bed on it the only thing is u may have to find some rectangular tubing and just keep it straight instead of the bends it will work and tell ur dad to put a flat bed on it would make his life so much easier especially at early morning feeds(hate loading my truck wt the bed on it especially since the stacks get screwed upold skool idealarc welderEsab multi tool Milwauake 7inch angle grinder the best of all tho the oxyacceteline set up
Reply:Trust me I want to tube it like I did my FJ and some others, however, money and time are key players here.  If I go ahead and tube it, I still have to put on the new bed which he has not found yet and put the topper on.   So stock will have to be the way to go.  I would like to turn it into another crawler thoughWhen my father brings it down, I'll know what to do with it.   I already know what hes going to say,   " I dont care how you do it just make sure my bed and topper are on when your done".    weld it like you own it
Reply:Originally Posted by G3farmslewray, not sure where in tn you are, but there is a toyota junk yard in vonore that deals only in toyota trucks. the name is whites auto sales, 1726 hwy. 411, 423-884-6075. i know nothing of them except where they are. maybe you could find a frame there.hthG3
Reply:Lewray, it ain't what you found under the bed. It's what you DIDN'T find under the bed. Meaning...steel. Where did the steel go to???!!!And then, after so much work...... you have it in your hand, and you look over to your side...... and the runner has run off. Leaving you holding the prize, wondering when the runner will return.
Reply:What Bed? Muffler looks great compared to everything else.Looks like it's been in salt water for years. I agree Do NOT resuscitate!Miller 140 w A/SHF Flux Core WelderDewalt Chop SawSmith O/A TorchHarley Electra Glide Classic
Reply:Originally Posted by RojodiabloLewray, it ain't what you found under the bed. It's what you DIDN'T find under the bed. Meaning...steel. Where did the steel go to???!!!
Reply:Nothing a little bondo couldn't patch up, no?  Holger
Reply:Originally Posted by tanglediverAt least it ain't got termites as well!!
Reply:Wow, did that thing run and drive like that?  One wrong punch on the throttle, and that truck could dissentigrate!Have a Jeep Cherokee?  Click Here!
Reply:I hope you do take it on.  I would like to see how it's done.  I've never done anything like it, and I'm pretty sure I might not have the skill to do it.  It would be a good thing to learn by watching."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Wow that looks worse than the Flying Dutchman that capt Jack Sparrow was on! At least that ship floated when davy jones wasn't using it as a submarine.And this truck was in TN? and it rusted like that??Tubing can be expensive. My advice a good burial. If that doesn't work for your dad you might try looking around some construction sites where they are demo a building and see if you can dig up some freebie steel such as l-Beam.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.&  2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:Never let a good truck or family member die!  You owe it to that truck to let it live.Don't pull the plug.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:You may want to view this URL: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/07/t...s-to-15-years/ and see what Toyota will do for you.BTW, this is my first post.  I've been lurking for a while looking at the projects.  I just welded a license plate holder for my front receiver hitch on Tuesday.  I have an old, old Marquette AC welder (the one with the two columns of taps) that was given to me.  I recently wired up the 50A circuit and got everything working.JeffEdit: Ooops, just added '86 and 15 and came up with less than '08.  But the link may be helpful for other owners.Last edited by Rod Stick; 11-15-2008 at 09:39 PM.Originally Posted by Rod StickYou may want to view this URL: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/07/t...s-to-15-years/ and see what Toyota will do for you.BTW, this is my first post.  I've been lurking for a while looking at the projects.  I just welded a license plate holder for my front receiver hitch on Tuesday.  I have an old, old Marquette AC welder (the one with the two columns of taps) that was given to me.  I recently wired up the 50A circuit and got everything working.JeffEdit: Ooops, just added '86 and 15 and came up with less than '08.  But the link may be helpful for other owners.
Reply:Living in Arizona... I guess I'm not used to rust damage like that !!!KRS***************************************Lincoln AC225 stick welderLincoln HD100 WeldPak flux core wire feed welderThree of the cheapest grinders money can buy
Reply:I picked up the truck last weekend end and have been working on it a little bit here and there.I was hoping not to find any bad places under the cab...but wouldnt you know itI removed the tank and got to cutting and grinding only to find more work.  Looks like its going to stay here for a while.here are some picks.  I just want a solid frame base now so I can cut the rest of the frame off .As of now?  I have only scratched the surace. weld it like you own it
Reply:Wow... Hard to believe the torsion bar anchor didn't twist out.
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepWow... Hard to believe the torsion bar anchor didn't twist out.
Reply:Originally Posted by lewrayI know.  This project is so much on the puke listMy dad is definately worth it though.  During my time in the Navy, I bought an old basket case shovel head HD and he built the whole bike for me while I was away.  ...So I owe him one.
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Reply:Where in TN are you?  If your on the east end of the state I will look around for a bed.  I trashed a good hilux bed last year.
Reply:Is steel that rusty even worth trying to repair? Wouldn't it be faster/stronger to hack the back half of the frame off and replace it?
Reply:Aw.........That will just buff right out!(I'd build a new frame..........)Good luck with it............And I like your attitude towards your pop Roy BDartmouth, Mahttp://www.rvbprecision.comMM 185 MIGDiversion 165Purox W200 O/AGrizzly 9957 MillGrizzly 4030 Metal Band SawGrizzly 1050 Knife Belt SanderJet 1236 Metal LatheCM 14" Metal Band SawTP Blast Cabinet
Reply:Originally Posted by overclockedpcIs steel that rusty even worth trying to repair? Wouldn't it be faster/stronger to hack the back half of the frame off and replace it?
Reply:I have been working on this as much as I can lately.  The new frame rails have been cut and tacked together.  Hopefully tomorro I can get them welded up .  The rails so far have come together well with the angles I need and are pretty true.  As you can see, my camera's flash took a dump so the pics are not as good as I would like but hope to resolve that later in the week.  I'll post more when I do. weld it like you own it
Reply:Were you able to match the original size tubing, or did you have to go with a standard size tubing.  I can't tell by the pictures"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammWere you able to match the original size tubing, or did you have to go with a standard size tubing.  I can't tell by the pictures
Reply:This is one I've really wanted to watch.  I've never seen it done before.So, now you'll have to build out(best word I could come up with) points along the standard tubing in order to mount axles, hangers etc.?"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammThis is one I've really wanted to watch.  I've never seen it done before.So, now you'll have to build out(best word I could come up with) points along the standard tubing in order to mount axles, hangers etc.?
Reply:That's what scares me.  All the suspension geometry, and other stuff in order to make the stock items fit properly.I see the templates.  Are they made prior to cutting the old frame off?"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Theres around 20 hrs in measurements before the first cut.  Im pleased with the geometry so far.  The very rough mock up was dead on.  It will be close when I start to butt them up for sure.Pinion angle, bed height, ect have been recorded.I really debated posting this one because SO MANY way of doing it. weld it like you own it
Reply:I hope ya get the flash fixed, or another camera.I'll be asking a lot of stupid questions"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Speakin' of which.  Are you going to do the level/plumb bob thing, or work of a known surface on the existing frame?"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI hope ya get the flash fixed, or another camera.I'll be asking a lot of stupid questions
Reply:Sounds good.  I'd like to see how you go about keeping everything square, and at the proper angle.Seems like one hell of a hard thing to do."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by lewrayI really debated posting this one because SO MANY way of doing it.
Reply:Lewray, I am Land Man for an oil Company here in Northern Texas, Your friend has the right to have access to his land no matter whats in front of it. No way, can a guy stop you from coming on YOUR land even if you have to drive through his to get to it. I would either go out there and just do it, or go to the courthouse and get it settled out, but thats rediculous. May have differnent laws where you live, but here thats how it is. I deal with these people everyday and its ussually ends up well, but sometimes you have to deal with guys like this. Just my 2 cents.Nick
Reply:Ay, re: the landlocked land.There usually are (always are?) utility and/or access easements, even to 'landlocked' land.  Check.Waiting to see how it all turns out, too.  The best laid schemes ... Gang oft agley ...