Bucket bottom

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Here is a pic of a bucket bottom I re-plated. wear strips were origionally worn almost off and there was significant wear into the bucket floor. Unfortunately I did not take any close up shots or before-and-after. I cut all worn mtl off, fit new bucket floor as well as a 3/4" second floor plate and finished off with 3/4" ar400 wear strips.. Attached Images
Reply:Nice repairs once again.Keep the pic coming....We like pics
Reply:3/4" bent floor plate, nice. Did you get that bent or do it yourself?.No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Looks good.  You do nice work there.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:man thats some big stuff!!!! nice work looks like fun!!!!!!
Reply:The 3/4" floor plate was bump rolled by a local fab shop. Unfortunately my company hasnt purchased any BIG TOOLS to do that in house jet, but they toss up the idea from time to time...until then I continue to be hopeful.
Reply:Big stuff means Lots ansd Lots of welding on a repair like this one. The more I weld the happier I am.  Thank you for the good feedback
Reply:Nice work fchesser78. Welcome to the forum.
Reply:Looks good from here, lots of great practicing for sure.G3miller... 225g, s32p, 250x, 304, 12vs, MSW41     victor o/a thermal dynamics cutmaster 50 lenco panel spotter        hobart hf-boxG3 Farms.....raising cattle, hay, kids and hell, ...oh yeah I'm a fire sprinkler contractor by trade.
Reply:How many passes do you make on those weld plates. i am working on a bucket right now and i feel like my welds are HUGE compared to those. Looks really good.
Reply:Generally I crank up the amps and make only one pass 100% as long as the plates are flush... The plates on the radious have three passes on the long sides, root fill and cap
Reply:Again "Very Nice" work. I love seeing the work of other heavy equipment shops especially when they have someone that takes the time to do it right the 1st time. I do alot of heavy equipment bucket modifications where folks buy the buckets at auctions! The buy to have additional width buckets and they get some good buy at auctions for a bucket that the mounts must be changed around on to fit their equipment.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.&  2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:As I know nothing about this type of repair so I mean no offense, nor am i trying to question your repair skills, I am just wondering..Why are the wear strips running horizontal on the bucket instead of vertical.  I know it would be harder to get them flat to the bucket but won't the horizontal plates wear from dragging the edges on rocks and stuff?  Or is that the pint of them being wear strips?Just curious as to the why it is done a certain way is all.
Reply:In my line of buisness, and today's economy price is a MAJOR factor. Running the strips horizontally is cheaper than extra labor involved in rolling the plates, besides rolling AR400 (high tensil strength wear plate) is a nightmare and rarely comes out correctly. Most factory buckets come with the plates in this mannor so performance isnt an issue. Thank you for your feedback.
Reply:Another advantage to insalling them as you did is that you can replace just one or two if needed.  If an operator tends to rub the heel off in one spot having them placed the other way would mean changing all of them. This way you can just do the one or two that are bad.
Reply:what kind of machine did you use? what kind of wire?
Reply:I always heard wear strips where welded on that way to collect dirt.A bucket covered in dirt will wear slower. .
Reply:Miller shop pro with .045 Lincoln 71M Fluxcore and shielding gas. I'm trying to get a second lead and rol;lers to support 1/16" wire... It would be very applicable in most my jobs - more heat, fewer passes, faster travel
Reply:Just curious why no hard facing on the plates to prevent wear on all that fine work that you have done.
Reply:Originally Posted by adam21584I always heard wear strips where welded on that way to collect dirt.A bucket covered in dirt will wear slower. .
Reply:Those wear strips are made to collect dirt and abrasives and hold them  so that the other abrasive will wear on them and not the bucket.    On my 12 000 pound Komatsu its has verticle strips for   concrete and coarse abrasive work.        Nice repair on the buckets ,Ive made a few for my personal  backhoe and excavator and my Skid steer.       In the winter I used to repair them for the company I worked for when we couldnt hog dirt.       I know why buckets are repaired. A bucket like you pictured can run any where from 5 to 12 thousand bucks.   I repaired a tall narrow trenching bucket that got used to pry shot rock.  It brok the bottom out. The laborer had been told not to be diggint in rock well prying.   I wondered why they fired him till I saw the bucket was 25 000.      A small bucket for my Mini ex is around 900 for a 12 inch and 2500 for a 36 inch.
Reply:Originally Posted by adam21584I always heard wear strips where welded on that way to collect dirt.A bucket covered in dirt will wear slower. .
Reply:Originally Posted by DSWIThe most abrasive material I've seen is sand in Jersey. I've seen rusty buckets dig in stone, clay, rocky dirt and still have a heavy layer of rust at the end of the day. 3 hours of digging in packed sand and you literally could see your reflection in the bucket. All the rust was gone. Take a rusty shovel and dig in a sand pile for a short time. You'll be amazed how fast it takes a shine. Never dug in coal however.
Reply:I started running a scraper for my dad when I was 14.   I had run a backhoe a bit longer but not everyday.  His big thing was to teach me how to maintain anything I ran from teeth to grease.       We put a new 3 section cutting edge on the scraper with the middle dropped down 3 inches lower than the side bits to a stinger configuration.    This lowers the strain on things as its not the full force trying to load the dirt to the elevator.     After a while in clay and sand dad wanted me to start moving a gravel road over in the landfill we work at.   I was amazed the next morning we had to flip the stinger over on the other side to use it up and the next day we had to put a new one on it.  After a while doing this every morning we found some super hard chipper blades ath the scrap yard that came from the pulp mill.     I dont know the alloy but they will weld good with a preheat and a 9018 rod.  That cut the changing out by a few days.   Granite, clay gravel, and sand are among the hardest material Ive dealt with.    I was running a D8K for a company I worked for and  dad had given me some pointers in shale rock you have to find the lay of the rock to rip it.   More than one ripper point was ground off on that job, Truck springs welded to the tooth helped me get through the week.
Reply:That a real clean looking and neat repair. Do you preheat and what do you use to get all that iron up to temp. That wire , is it the new Lincoln Dual core."Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400