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I was tired of looking at this big thing on my floor so I elevated it. It is just basically a couple of brackets welded on the end of 3" x 4" rectangular tubing I had around. I put a 1 1/8" floor or it to minimize vibration. In addition I used some old scrounged shock absorber rubber parts to cushion it. I turned some special spacers on the lathe to get it the right height. The most time consuming part was the electrical wiring to it and the copper lines I am running in the shop.
Reply:That's great. I'm thinking your not in an earthquake zone???200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:I elevated another one at my old business and we anchored a chain as a backup. We will probably do the same thing here.
Reply:thats a kool Idea I like it... I just hope it never fallsAdam MMorales Ranch
Reply:Not to worry. The building was new three years ago and built to all current earthquake codes. Concrete floor is 8" thick. All glue lams, joists engineered to carry heavy loads. With a safety chain added it won't go anywhere.
Reply:That is a great idea & an awesome building. Someday when I build a shop I hoped to have a second level for all my wood working projects, and keep the lower level for metal & Jeep stuff. It almost looks like you have done something like that here? Looks like some Grizzly equipment up there.
Reply:The shaper is Grizzly. I also have an older Makita planer jointer, Delta Unisaw, Delta radial arm saw and lots of smaller tool. I have a lift for the second floor which makes materials handling more practical.The bottom part is strictly mechanical/metal with lathe, Bridgeport mill, Scotchman Ironworker, welders, grinders, sand blast cabinet, etc. In one end I also installed a paint booth. It is a lot of work to set up a shop but this one is pretty much functional now although there are a lot of storage projects I would improve on.
Reply:That is great - very much how I imagined my dream shop. Maybe soon I can build it as my spouse & I get closer to our peak in jobs.
Reply:lol....imagine 8" of concrete falling on you....Nice idea on the air compressor I think I would only be able to get mine up about 3' thene run out of room. I would love to have those high ceilings Originally Posted by Jim MarshallNot to worry. The building was new three years ago and built to all current earthquake codes. Concrete floor is 8" thick. All glue lams, joists engineered to carry heavy loads. With a safety chain added it won't go anywhere.
Reply:One thing about high ceilings, you always wish you would have made them 1' higher. Mine are pretty nice but I would have done just that.It is on the floor. The second deck is TJI's with 1 1/8" plywood on 16" centers. It could have been 3/4" thick but the thickness is well worth it.Jim
Reply:nice! It looks like you have the drain plumbed where it is accessible and you can change/check the oil?"I believe that our heavenly father invented man because his was disappointed with the monkey." -Samuel Clemens
Reply:Originally Posted by Jim Marshall I have a lift for the second floor which makes materials handling more practical.
Reply:Do you want pictures of the lift setup?Jim
Reply:Originally Posted by Jim MarshallDo you want pictures of the lift setup?Jim
Reply:It is one of the manned forklifts you see in a Home Depot or Lowes. Sometimes they are called order pickers where there are forks or a platform. The rider rides up with the load. The unit is steerable and will work as a forklife or with a platform.
Reply:Ah. Gotcha. I was expecting some sort of custom, built in lift. Makes sense now.Who is John Galt?
Reply:I was going to do a lift and had purchased a used, heavy duty double winch used on stage to haul props for stage productions. I had constructed a lift basket and then this came along and well, it was easy, portable, etc.Jim
Reply:Curious. I see a right-angle fitting on the drain plug fitting, and a rubber hose leading UP? How are you handling drain-down duties on the compressor? ThxMILLWRIGHT'S SONMiller XMT 304 CC/CVMiller S52 Stainless Steel FeederMiller Process Selector ControlBernard Q-GunBernard Short StubTrade: Furniture Maker, so I'm a fabricating fool.
Reply:WILKERSONIt leads to a Wilkerson automatic drain. I am not sure exactly how it works. I only know that it works on the differential between startups and shutdowns. It is actually pretty complicated with diaphragms and pistons and ball seats. I got it with the compressor and it wasn't working. I bought a rebuild kit through Grainger and rebuilt it the other day. The unit is available through Grainger or on Amazon.com. for about $100. I think the rebuild kit set me back about $30. It is too early to tell how well it works.Try: http://www.amazon.com/Wilkerson-X51-...2&sr=8-1-fkmr1 I have another Wilkerson on my other compressor that has a float on it. HARBOR FREIGHTHarbor Freight makes a totally different one for around $10 which takes a somewhat more involved installation. Try: http://www.paragoncode.com/shop/compressor/It looks like it is linked in with the unloader line where pressure is taken off when the pressure comes up.Jim
Reply:Incredibly informative, and something I'm going to look into for my 5/60. I have a thumb-turn drain, but I just forget to do it, until it's a year-later. My Quincy is Cast-Iron, and I don't really need to find out that forgetfulness is the reason I'll need a new one.MILLWRIGHT'S SONMiller XMT 304 CC/CVMiller S52 Stainless Steel FeederMiller Process Selector ControlBernard Q-GunBernard Short StubTrade: Furniture Maker, so I'm a fabricating fool.
Reply:I know the feeling. When I drained the tank about a gallon came out. When the auto drain was not working it was hard to drain manually. It might be a good idea to put in a bypass. I think I will.Jim
Reply:I'm seeing that the Harbor Freight model has a bypass in it, all for $10 bucks. I don't even know how China makes their stuff so cheap?MILLWRIGHT'S SONMiller XMT 304 CC/CVMiller S52 Stainless Steel FeederMiller Process Selector ControlBernard Q-GunBernard Short StubTrade: Furniture Maker, so I'm a fabricating fool.
Reply:Gee I sure hope you don't overstress that beam with the load of the compressor....hee hee.I have an automatic drain on my compressor and it works like a champ. Much better than having to remember to reach under and manually drain it.In my previous shop I ran plastic (PEX/AL/PEX) for air lines. Really liked it. Much better than soldering all the copper and a lot cheaper.I'd like to see more pix's of your shop. Do you do commercial work or is this just hobby?Glenn.Sign on East Texas payphone: Calls to God 40 cents......it's a local call...
Reply:I do both. I have commercial properties so I am involved in quite a bit of construction and maintenance (e.g. last project, re-hinging a steel gate broken by vandals. I do a lot of woodworking as well. The top part of the shop (loft is the wood shop area). The bottom part of the shop is the metal area. It is still not quite complete, but getting there. It is just nice to be able to fix almost anything quickly.Let me know your interests (wood, metal, etc.) and I will post them as I complete parts.Jim
Reply:Surprised to see your dust collector tube go up (Schedule 80? Ground wire?)...the holy grail of dust collection is to go under the floor...that's probably why you wanted that 1' higher ceiling, right?Last edited by Millwright's Son; 04-11-2010 at 08:01 PM.MILLWRIGHT'S SONMiller XMT 304 CC/CVMiller S52 Stainless Steel FeederMiller Process Selector ControlBernard Q-GunBernard Short StubTrade: Furniture Maker, so I'm a fabricating fool.It is PVC sewer pipe. Would you recommend a ground wire? It just worked out better to route it above between the joists.Jim
Reply:Yeah, I recognized the pipe, I actually used it last year for some underground site drains...Yeah, I would recommend a wire! No. 1 Item to be struck in a lightning storm: Water Wells with PVC sleeves! Static electricity loves the stuff, and you're making more than normal by drawing air and dust upwards, against PVC. Distance of your runs is also a factor....Normally, small collectors are not as much as a problem as cyclones...but you don't have to be the exceptionMILLWRIGHT'S SONMiller XMT 304 CC/CVMiller S52 Stainless Steel FeederMiller Process Selector ControlBernard Q-GunBernard Short StubTrade: Furniture Maker, so I'm a fabricating fool.
Reply:Great idea. I was wondering about the noise level with it mounted up high. Would that be a consideration?thanks,mikee
Reply:I was concerned about it and that is why I used the rubber mounts. The wood over the metal would tend to work as a diaphragm so I used a double sided tape between the steel beam and the wood. The wood is 1 1/8 plywood and with the rubber mounting it seems to work just fine.Jim
Reply:I too do both woodworking and metal. I have a 15.5 acre ranch and with the old attachments I have I'm always fixing, repainting or making new parts for them. My woodworking stuff right now shares the same space as the metal....I envy you with two levels, so I get to really clean the shop area before doing any wood working. Being spring the wood working stuff is under tarps as there is a lot of welding and machining going on.Really like to see more pictures of both your areas.Sign on East Texas payphone: Calls to God 40 cents......it's a local call...
Reply:I will take some and post them. I realized pretty quickly that the two didn't mix and built the second floor. I had an engineer calcultate out the requirements for heavy storage and built it. So far it has worked out well. Jim
Reply:You lost me Jim. I'm talking about a groundwire traveling within your PVC pipe. A charge could build up there, and ignite the swirling dust in the collector.MILLWRIGHT'S SONMiller XMT 304 CC/CVMiller S52 Stainless Steel FeederMiller Process Selector ControlBernard Q-GunBernard Short StubTrade: Furniture Maker, so I'm a fabricating fool.
Reply:How should it be grounded. I set up the system based on Woodcrafters shop. A friend in the loggin business told me later they always used metal. How should I ground it?Jim
Reply:Grounding a dust collectorQ: How should I ground the dust collection system in my home workshop? Should the grounding wire be connected to each machine or just the collector itself? .A: A: The idea behind grounding a dust collector is to provide a low-resistance path for static electricity to travel to the earth. The motion of dust and air through the pipes can cause substantial electric charges to build up, especially if you’re using plastic pipe. Depending on the situation, grounding the dust collector itself may be enough. But it may not. Let the presence or absence of static build up on pipes and machines be your guide. The safest approach is to provide bare-wire grounding from all woodworking machines, through the inside of the dust pipe and to the grounded chassis of the dust collector. The circuit is completed through the ground pin of the outlet powering the system. This provides a path for the static electricity to travel safely and harmlessly to the earth.MILLWRIGHT'S SONMiller XMT 304 CC/CVMiller S52 Stainless Steel FeederMiller Process Selector ControlBernard Q-GunBernard Short StubTrade: Furniture Maker, so I'm a fabricating fool.
Reply:Well, you've almost got it right.The label of the "ground wire" is a little misleading. It is in fact an antenna wire.It is used to bleed the static charge to ground.The wire should begin just a few inches from the machine that the dust collector pvc connects to and run along to pvc to the dust collector itself. There it is tied to ground. By electrical code both machines are already at electrical ground. This is a safety ground.The problem is the static build up due to air flow within the PVC and you need to drain it to ground potential. Hence, the "antenna wire".This may sound confusing but it really is not if you understand the purpose.I have done a lot of 'ground engineering" and this issue comes up all the time. The idea of grounding is a real misnomer where static electricity is involved.Talking about static electricity, ever wonder why your radio antenna on your vehicle has a ball on the end?Sign on East Texas payphone: Calls to God 40 cents......it's a local call...
Reply:I'm contemplating a dust collector for my shop, and I definitely want it grounded as I've watched dust collect on the pipe from static buildup in a previous shop. My only reservation about running a wire on the inside of the pipe is it will also act as a restriction and snag material moving through the pipe resulting in a clog which can be a real PITA to clear, thats why we dont cement the pipes together, they have to come apart occasionally to clear a clog especially if your running a heavy dust/chip producer like a planer. Would a wire running along the length of the exterior remove the static okay? Seeing the dust collect on the exterior of the pipe means static is there. it would also allow for wiring connectors to facilitate seperation of the pipe for clog removal.JodyMAC WS1110 Mig WelderWoodworker HobbyistDelta 10" Table Saw, Delta Planer, Bosch and Craftsman Routers, 48" Craftsman Lathe, drill press, 1/2" hand and cordless drills, scroll saw, skill saws, jig saws, etc, and too many hand tools to list, lol
Reply:I always preferred my compressor outside my shop when it can be doneI hate to listen to it run all the time or scare the S*** out of me when it's real quiet and i'm thinkingAnd DO get that ground wire run on the dust collector system before you have a dust explosion It happensBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck |
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