how many here run 7014?

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do you use ac or dc? i bought some a while back and ran it dc on the precision tig, i really wasn't impressed with the rod. (i know its not the machine, it runs everything else really nice) today i needed to run a couple of beads and didn't feel like dragging the big machine out. so i took the buzz box out and decided to try the 7014. it ran beautiful. so what do you use?Millermatic 211weldpack 3200 squirtgunsquare wave 200victory journeyman kitHypertherm 30xptoo much other crap to listtinkerer extraordinaire
Reply:I've ran it over the years when the only machine I had was the "old buzz box". It did everything it was suppose to and I was pleased with the results. Since I upgraded to a DC machine, I've yet to burn one in along time.
Reply:If I remember right 7014 ran like butter for me on ac, 150-170 some amps for 1/8" but I could be wrongHave we all gone mad?
Reply:AC , DC+ or DC- Runs good for me at 115 - 120 amps on DCEP.only thing worse than an ugly woman is an ugly weld
Reply:Dcep @120G
Reply:I run it occasionally, always on DC+.   It runs similar to 7018 but the slag is heavier and harder to clean off.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Try it on DC-, it runs better just like 6013.  I use it occasionally.  I only run it on DC, no need for AC.  Here is a small job I did with it.http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ghlight=bobcatDavidLast edited by David R; 02-08-2009 at 08:56 AM.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:7014 runs better on DC- than DC+Trailblazer 302 AirpakDynasty 200 DX  Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52 CamoMiller Dailarc 250 OLD But great!!2 Miller 140's w/autoset NEW! Millwauke Cold cut sawsDewalt portabandJd2 notcherPipe beveling machine
Reply:Thanks, I'll try it DC- next time.   Nice job on the plow.  MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Originally Posted by BNFI've ran it over the years when the only machine I had was the "old buzz box". It did everything it was suppose to and I was pleased with the results. Since I upgraded to a DC machine, I've yet to burn one in along time.
Reply:This electrode is run quite often with DC- because of its good operating characteristisc on DC-. 6012, 6013, and 7014 are all kind of similar because they belong to the F2 group (fast follow electrodes) which are used on DC- for the welding of sheetmetals at relatively high speeds. DC- is preferred on thinner steels because you will get a more shallow penetration compared to DC+. I'm with tresi on this one, if you can use a 7018 instead, go for it. But use it on DC+.only thing worse than an ugly woman is an ugly weld
Reply:oh i most definatly agree on the 7018. i run it all the time on the pt. i do have some 7018 ac that i bought way back when the buzz box was all i had. for the most part out of all of the rods i have i mostly run 7018 and 6013. i just decided to try it out yesterdayMillermatic 211weldpack 3200 squirtgunsquare wave 200victory journeyman kitHypertherm 30xptoo much other crap to listtinkerer extraordinaire
Reply:A Welder at work told me about 7014 aka "farmer rod".  He suggested I try some out.  He said I might like it better than the 6011 I usually fall back on when farm welding.I bought some 7014 to weld washers on one end of pieces of re-bar.  Had to make something long, with a head like a nail for anchoring railroad ties to our clay soil.  Was making a retaining wall on some sloping land out back of the house.I kind of liked how 7014 flowed on DC+.  I had some 5' x 5/8" lengths that I inserted through drilled holes in the ties and then pounded with a BFH until the washer pulled the tie down securely.  Some of the blows were glancing and not one washer broke off. I'm sure 7014 has its place.  It will have a place here anyway.Gordie -- "I believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Reply:I also used 7014 on dc+ before. It flowed pretty good. I'll have to try it on dc-Ya gotta spend money to make money!
Reply:http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da.../Hobart14A.pdfhttp://www.hobartbrothers.com/products/70k tensile equivalent of 6013.  Increased penetration in DCEP,   better fill characteristics in DCEN.  Arc stabilizers for AC.Last edited by Jim Riley; 02-11-2009 at 12:43 PM.
Reply:RECOMMENDED WELDING PROCEDURES:GENERAL: Electrode negative, work positive (DCEN); AC; or electrode positive, work negative (DCEP)ARC LENGTH: Short (1/8” or less)FLAT: Angle electrode 10-15° from 90° with higher heat than E6012 electrodesVERTICAL-UP: Use slight whipping or weaving techniqueVERTICAL-DOWN: Use higher amperage and faster travel, staying ahead of puddleOVERHEAD: Use slight whipping motionSTORAGE: 60°F to 100°F, (20° to 40°C) and below 50% relative humidity or holding oven@ 100° to 120°F (38° to 49°C)RECONDITIONING: 250°F to 300°F, (121° to 149°C) for one hour @ temperature.Copied from the link above, worth repeating.You can drag with 7014 too.  Adjust the heat so the flux and wire burn off at the same rate.  Same drag angle as above.David Last edited by David R; 02-11-2009 at 03:37 PM.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Thanks David for getting it out front.  I live by Hobart and Lincolns cut sheets.Grew up in upstate, Wayne and Ontario counties.