What is a fair price for these welders

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I have 2 plasma welders for sale and need help with a fair price for them, Thanks in advance.#1)  Thermal Arc brand, Ultima 150, with WT1 weld timer, CS1 current slope, CP1 pulser, and RP1 control.The machine looks like it's never been used. It doesn't have the torch, it does come with the manual.#2)  Thermal Arc brand, model WC 100B, used, the shield gas, plastic regulater is broken, it does come with the torch. Both are 220 volt, single phase.Any comments on the machines and their value would be appreciated, they are located in east TN.I would be interested in tradesVan 37725
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