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I figured I would post a couple of pics of what I work on here in Kuwait. This is Oshkosh HET. They have fully armored cabs and are made to haul a M1 main battle tank. Figured you guys might be intrested in them. I do alot fabrication of new parts for the trailers and every so often fix up worn door components. Attached Images
Reply:Wow!  What a truck.  That thing is bad-a$$.
Reply:Cool, thanks for sharing.
Reply:Is this the Super HET????A buddy of mine is in Iraq right now, he used to be a driver, now he is supervising some Iraqi soldiers.Nice pics, love those things!Murphy's Law: When something has been made idiot-proof, someone will invent a better idiot.  -MAC702
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Reply:I'm surprised the engine hood doesn't have more protection.  The IED might not breech the cab, but it will sure disable the engine and leave them as sitting ducks.
Reply:Thanks for the post Troy44B and thanks for your service.Be careful and keep us posted.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Got any picts of the armored CAT D9's?I'm guessing the 40 trailer tires are more for load distribution than carrying capasity. With that number you would have less than 2 tons/ tire excluding the trailer itself, which makes it less ground presure than a standard off road service truck.I'm also guessing part of the choice to use those in convoy escort is that they are less imposing than Strikers or other armored vehicles and therefore apear less threathening to the general public. I sort of find it hard to think you are safer in that than in an M1. But I know tracked vehicles take a LOT more mantenance than any wheeled vehicle not to mention you look like an invader rather than someone just going along.
Reply:Originally Posted by JC'sWeldingI'm surprised the engine hood doesn't have more protection.  The IED might not breech the cab, but it will sure disable the engine and leave them as sitting ducks.
Reply:Now that is what truck drivers in NYC need.LOL
Reply:I hink the word is "bogies", one g.Man, what a beast.  Can I get one of those down here in Tucson to help combat the rush-hour traffic?Seriously, though, I'm always interested in vehicles, no matter what they are.  This definitely goes on the "Interesting Military" list.
Reply:Originally Posted by Troy44BWell the doors are locked up as tight as a bank vault and if anyone approaches the cab the gun truck behind you will send a few 50 cals your way.
Reply:Yep, that's got jess 'bout evr'thing I'ld need fer a daily driver 'n L.A. Be blessed. Be safe.City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Thanks for the nice thoughts guys.     Does anyone remeber the mamoth car from speed racer? thats what a HET reminds me of.
Reply:Speed Racer????   Man, are you old ....**goes looking through my collector edition of all the old Speed Racer shows on DVD ....ummm, forget I said anything ...**Ya mean this here beastie?http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...34861.imgcacheAlthough since they made Speed Racer into a live-action movie, perhaps it should be this one, instead:http://www.strangemilitary.com/image...ent/132190.jpgRUSSIAN ARMY'S LONGEST TRUCK - T- 79221 - 1.  80 TONS - 40 KMPH - 700 HP ----And for any new versions of the movie, there's always this truck - 112 trailers, stretching 4,837 feet, towed by the Mack TITAN..http://thelongestlistofthelongeststu...ages3/road.JPG
Reply:Troy,  First, THANKS for your service.I can relate to those things being a piece of crap.  I can remember when the M-123,10 Ton tractor pulled my M15 and M15A1 trailers.  The M-123 replaced the M-26 "Dragon Wagon".  Surprisingly, the M26 looks similar to the M1070 in your picture.  I've enclosed a couple of pics.  1st is the M-26, 2nd is the M-123, 3rd is a pic of the early M-26 with the trailer I had in Fort Knox- the M-15, and it was replaced by the M-747.  The M-15 series of trailers were used for many years.  The first came out in the 40's, and were in use up into the 70's.I was an instructor at the welding school at APG, MD when the first series of Oshkosh HET trucks, the M-911 were being tested.  They were a load of crap then.  I was talking to an old Army buddy last night via Yahoo Voice.  He's a retired Maintenance Warrant Officer.  I sent him the pics you posted.  We're BOTH glad we're retired and don't have to work on that crap.  I'll bet it's a bear to change the inside duals on that trailer.  One question.  We looked at the hood open in the one pic.  Is the hood all the way open?  Seems the engine is under the cab.  Is that so?  Can you post some more pics of that thing? Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by paweldorTroy,  First, THANKS for your service.I can relate to those things being a piece of crap.  I can remember when the M-123,10 Ton tractor pulled my M15 and M15A1 trailers.  The M-123 replaced the M-26 "Dragon Wagon".  Surprisingly, the M26 looks similar to the M1070 in your picture.  I've enclosed a couple of pics.  1st is the M-26, 2nd is the M-123, 3rd is a pic of the early M-26 with the trailer I had in Fort Knox- the M-15, and it was replaced by the M-747.  The M-15 series of trailers were used for many years.  The first came out in the 40's, and were in use up into the 70's.I was an instructor at the welding school at APG, MD when the first series of Oshkosh HET trucks, the M-911 were being tested.  They were a load of crap then.  I was talking to an old Army buddy last night via Yahoo Voice.  He's a retired Maintenance Warrant Officer.  I sent him the pics you posted.  We're BOTH glad we're retired and don't have to work on that crap.  I'll bet it's a bear to change the inside duals on that trailer.  One question.  We looked at the hood open in the one pic.  Is the hood all the way open?  Seems the engine is under the cab.  Is that so?  Can you post some more pics of that thing?
Reply:Originally Posted by SpyGuySpeed Racer????   Man, are you old ....**goes looking through my collector edition of all the old Speed Racer shows on DVD ....ummm, forget I said anything ...**Ya mean this here beastie?http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...34861.imgcacheAlthough since they made Speed Racer into a live-action movie, perhaps it should be this one, instead:http://www.strangemilitary.com/image...ent/132190.jpgRUSSIAN ARMY'S LONGEST TRUCK - T- 79221 - 1.  80 TONS - 40 KMPH - 700 HP ----And for any new versions of the movie, there's always this truck - 112 trailers, stretching 4,837 feet, towed by the Mack TITAN..http://thelongestlistofthelongeststu...ages3/road.JPG
Reply:Got some more pictures tonight, some are blurry becuase I was rudhing so my squad leader would'nt ask why I was goofing off. Attached Images
Reply:Thats like AMAZING great job! great pics!My Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3   4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:Originally Posted by elvergonThats like AMAZING great job! great pics!
Reply:Troy,  We were wondering if the cab covered part of the engine and as you stated, it does.  We also wondered if the cab raised (like a cab over civilian tractor)on hinges.  You clarified that, it doesn't.  Another "cluster f***" presented to the troops by the U.S. Army Test & Evaluation Command.  In my 21 years in the Army, I can't count how many times pieces of crap were fielded to the troops that was junk.  Many millions of tax dollars wasted.If memory serves me right, the M-911 required about 10 hours of maintenance after it was on a mission.  You're right the M-747 was the first generation of the 1000 series trailer, or the predecessor to them.You're heavy maintenance.  I spent 3 years with the 76th HEM (Heavy Equipment Maintenance) Co, in Fort Knox.  We did it all too.Stay safe.
Reply:I saw one of these pieces of equipment for the first time this weekend @ Ft. Bragg.  We were visiting our son.  We saw them from a distance.  He was not as knowledgeable about them as you are, but what little he did know let me know it is a cool piece of equipment.  (I tend to only consider the visual impact not the maintanence aspect.  LOL)Thanks for your service.ECAVE Still learnin'Lincoln AC225Lincoln 135SPHF ChopsawVictor O/ANumerous other items
Reply:Originally Posted by paweldorTroy,  We were wondering if the cab covered part of the engine and as you stated, it does.  We also wondered if the cab raised (like a cab over civilian tractor)on hinges.  You clarified that, it doesn't.  Another "cluster f***" presented to the troops by the U.S. Army Test & Evaluation Command.Originally Posted by paweldorTroy,  We were wondering if the cab covered part of the engine and as you stated, it does.  We also wondered if the cab raised (like a cab over civilian tractor)on hinges.  You clarified that, it doesn't.  Another "cluster f***" presented to the troops by the U.S. Army Test & Evaluation Command.  In my 21 years in the Army, I can't count how many times pieces of crap were fielded to the troops that was junk.  Many millions of tax dollars wasted.If memory serves me right, the M-911 required about 10 hours of maintenance after it was on a mission.  You're right the M-747 was the first generation of the 1000 series trailer, or the predecessor to them.You're heavy maintenance.  I spent 3 years with the 76th HEM (Heavy Equipment Maintenance) Co, in Fort Knox.  We did it all too.Stay safe.
Reply:awsome!! thanks for serving our great country!
Reply:Troy, when did you go through APG?
Reply:Keep up the great work Troy. If you or the other men and women in the field need anything let us know. We want you all back home, drinking beer and making kids.
Reply:my m88 a1 made a few trips on one of them hets when i was there in 91  thanks for your service i also am a grad of aberdeen proving grounds 63y h8
Reply:Originally Posted by JayTTroy, when did you go through APG?
Reply:Originally Posted by thebighammer1my m88 a1 made a few trips on one of them hets when i was there in 91  thanks for your service i also am a grad of aberdeen proving grounds 63y h8
Reply:my bigest rollover was a avlb with a bridge on it took 2 m88 and 4 d7gs to get her back up on the road and the heavyest lift was a 22 ton cev turret we had to pull they were awsome the new ones the herulies is even more of a beast mine had a 90000 lbs main winch with a 25 ton lift the new ones i believe are 180000 lbs main winch and 45 ton lift man i miss it work for a deere industrial dealer now big toys but nut as fun
Reply:Originally Posted by thebighammer1my bigest rollover was a avlb with a bridge on it took 2 m88 and 4 d7gs to get her back up on the road and the heavyest lift was a 22 ton cev turret we had to pull they were awsome the new ones the herulies is even more of a beast mine had a 90000 lbs main winch with a 25 ton lift the new ones i believe are 180000 lbs main winch and 45 ton lift man i miss it work for a deere industrial dealer now big toys but nut as fun
Reply:^^-- On that note, and slightly off-topic, there's a magazine that was put out this month by 4-Wheel & Off-Road showing a bunch of rollovers, stuck trucks, and other funny stuff.  The reason I'm mentioning it here is because there's a special military section (like the first 6 pages), showing Hummers, tanks, and other military vehicles (ASV's?) stuck in some very interesting positions ......The magazine says "Reader's Rigs - WHOOPS!" right across the front cover, can't miss it ....
Reply:Originally Posted by SpyGuy^^-- On that note, and slightly off-topic, there's a magazine that was put out this month by 4-Wheel & Off-Road showing a bunch of rollovers, stuck trucks, and other funny stuff.  The reason I'm mentioning it here is because there's a special military section (like the first 6 pages), showing Hummers, tanks, and other military vehicles (ASV's?) stuck in some very interesting positions ......The magazine says "Reader's Rigs - WHOOPS!" right across the front cover, can't miss it ....
Reply:Originally Posted by Troy44BGot there in March of 07 and graduted in June. I was A/Co 2nd Plt
Reply:I had the unfortunate experience of seeing what was left of PLS (and driver) that had been clipped by the bull dozer blade of the tank on the back of a HET during OIF2. the HET driver didnt even realize he hit something. Oh yeah and APG April of 1997 (44B)  B/co 3rd plt
Reply:Originally Posted by cafecubanoI just graduated in August, I was one of the last classes to graduate out of APG, before it was shut down. Actually we started at APG and graduated out of FT. Lee, Va. Now I'm deployed and in Iraq as the only welder on my little FOB. These past two months have been quite the learning experience. I hope to get a MIG welder here soon. I don't even have a welding trailer, I've been welding out of a FRESH for awhile. I only recently got a Miller trailblazer and Lincoln r3r 400. I anticipate calling on you for some help here and again. Well that be Okay?
Reply:What if the tires are shot at?  Curious to how those are made and made to be secureSomeone needs to make an auto-darkening Predator welding helmet...complete with dreads and multiple spectra of IR vision.
Reply:Big thanks for you service.  Not enough kids are willing to make the sacrifice that is necessary for the life that they enjoy.  They think it is their right and don't understand the cost.  Thanks again & keep your head down
Reply:Once (Ft. Drum, NY-1967) saw the main cable break on an M88 (trying to pull an M48 Tank out of a ravine).  Left a 3/4" deep depression in the armor when it recoiled back against the M88.  Luckily no one was outside the vehicle.  These were the old M48 gassers that were in reserve component inventory at the time.The M88 was a flat out hoss.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by IEATRICEWhat if the tires are shot at?  Curious to how those are made and made to be secure
Reply:Our tax $$$$$ at work....Like i have always said, being in the Military isn't all blood and guts, there are a lot of good jobs and training, and "YOU GET PAID FOR IT"....instead of you paying them....(I new i shouldn't have gone into the Marine corp.....)
Reply:Funny-I drive by a parking lot FULL of this equipment every morning on my way to work!  These are built right here in my small town (Population less than 15,000!!).  Like the others said, thanks for your service.