Esab/Lorch tig Deal..

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Not a bad deal for a Lorch..The 301i is also a deal..I wanted it, but just out of reach at this time to cash out. I just went for the  ET-220i instead for $1527.99 I have a RPC, so I can setup for 1/3 phase to get the full output. I run my Thermal-arc LM-200 the same way. Just a 3 phase plug on the welder, and use a adapter to single phase use.  L1530P on machine to L1530R to 6-50p adapter I sold my other unit but kept my  water cooler,torch, and have a ft control for this one already.. 8 pin Thermal-arc works..https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BXMZ4QH...v_ov_lig_dp_ithttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CCBWD8N...v_ov_lig_dp_ithttps://www.lorch.eu/en/productworld/t-220/Last edited by Brand X; 11-23-2019 at 05:08 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:This is a good deal. I have only heard good things about Lorch. You'd be hard pressed to find a machine in that quality tier in that price.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMiller Dynasty 280 DX TIGRunnerFronius Transsteel 2200
Reply:The Esab I sold was that quality/price. Just wanted to up the warranty to 3 years.Although I i originally was shooting for the 300 amp unit. I mostly do real thin stuff, so will be fine. Duty-cycle is good on the 220 Have to run on 3 phase to match the single phase output of my Sweden made 2200i  It will be interesting if it's as good of a machine..Probably is, and if close good enough.Last edited by Brand X; 11-23-2019 at 05:58 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Is it 40% at 220? If so, that is very good.https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/...ch-t-220.8822/Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMiller Dynasty 280 DX TIGRunnerFronius Transsteel 2200
Reply:I like that Esab 301i. I looked at in the past but I was initially put off by the limit of 200A on 1ph, 300A on 3ph. But it's looking better after comparing to what Lincoln and Miller offers in that range, especially cost wise. I have 3ph service and wow, 36 lbs. What have you heard about their reliability?I've heard about Lorch brand before but don't know much about them. It looks very much like the Esab what's the connection? Are they primarily a Europe product?Ernie F.
Reply:Originally Posted by metalman21I like that Esab 301i. I looked at in the past but I was initially put off by the limit of 200A on 1ph, 300A on 3ph. But it's looking better after comparing to what Lincoln and Miller offers in that range, especially cost wise. I have 3ph service and wow, 36 lbs. What have you heard about their reliability?I've heard about Lorch brand before but don't know much about them. It looks very much like the Esab what's the connection? Are they primarily a Europe product?
Reply:Originally Posted by precivilizationLorch is German, and it is actually made in Germany. One of the top brands in Europe. Quality is top notch.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by metalman21Why does it look like the Esab? They don't appear to be available in the US. The 300 amp unit has European input voltage.
Reply:Lorch is red from what I see: https://www.lorch.eu/en/productworld/t-220/ The Lorch appears to have the same case/front as the Esab, different control panel?By European input voltage I found the T250, T300 use 400 volt 3 phase input. The T220 can run on 230 volts 1 phase.If three phase is everywhere in Europe then I can see why they don't put much emphasis on single phase machines. Probably why the Esab 300i is split up to 200A on 1ph and 300 on 3ph. Even the Lincoln Aspect 375 is 250 on 1 ph and 375 on 3 ph.Ernie F.
Reply:Input power is the same between machines. The control panel is about like using a Thermal-arc 185/300 prowave from Japan. (Lincoln's 205 V)(from 15/18 years ago.. Just with more hidden menus to change more parameters. It's not like you have to get in there, and set all the time. Learn the memory setup if you want a quick to setup system..Yoo will never find a quality 300 amp tig for the price of that Lorch/Esab..These are not play things, and are the real deal..https://mam.esab.com/assets/1/BDBA5C...rochure-01.pdfEsab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Originally Posted by metalman21Why does it look like the Esab? They don't appear to be available in the US. The 300 amp unit has European input voltage.
Reply:So the Esab 301i is a rebranded Lorch? Does Lorch build the machine for Esab?Ernie F.
Reply:[QUOTE] Originally Posted by Brand XInput power is the same between machines. The control panel is about like using a Thermal-arc 185/300 prowave from Japan. (Lincoln's 205 V)(from 15/18 years ago.. Just with more hidden menus to change more parameters. It's not like you have to get in there, and set all the time. Learn the memory setup if you want a quick to setup system..Yoo will never find a quality 300 amp tig for the price of that Lorch/Esab..These are not play things, and are the real deal..https://mam.esab.com/assets/1/BDBA5C...rochure-01.pdf[/QUOTE
Reply:220i, and the 301i meaning it's set for the USA market.. If you watch the price on the 301, it might drop.. If someone buys one, look for a huge price increase. The 220i has stayed the same so far, since i bought one anyway..,Might drop again,but i will take the deal in front of me..Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand X220i, and the 301i meaning it's set for the USA market.. If you watch the price on the 301, it might drop.. If someone buys one, look for a huge price increase. The 220i has stayed the same so far, since i bought one anyway..,Might drop again,but i will take the deal in front of me..
Reply:I went ahead pulled the trigger and spent the extra for the 301 since aluminum is my thing these days. I will juice it on my RPC like Scott mentioned he will do for his. From everyone I talk to that works in the big shops the 3 phase just kicks it on the inverters. I learned that on the plasma recently using a 60i, who would have thought?  I need another tig like a need another kid to support..or another plasma, but this was a really good deal with a solid 3 year warranty. I have always heard great things about Lorch units, hard to pass up when it will probably be worth more in a couple years, specs on both units/weight are impressive with aluminum housing. I am starting to feel the shop is turning yellow again. I am anxious to see how it stacks up to my 281i HELIARC ESAB (STEL), Italian vs German engineering. The big Miller might be looking for a new home soon.ESAB Rebels 215 and 235, ESAB HELIARC 281i, ESAB ET 301i, Hypertherm 85 and 45XP, Thermal Arc 185, TD 60i, HTP PRO PULSE 300
Reply:Mine will be here tomorrow. 2 day air shipping.. I probably will regret not buying the 301i, but cash flow was not quite right enough at this moment.. I could swing a bit of extra Argon/HE mix through.. Really just want to weld nice to .250", and the 220 amps will pull it off OK.. I set my Mig unit up for my Tweco Pull gun, and it can handle so thicker stuff if I needed it..I Just wanted to see Chris ditch that green thing.. My two 60i are three phase only and have my LM-200 setup for 3 phase .I just use a 3 phase to single phase plug for quick/easy phase change. Just had to order one plug for the 220i, and it will go both ways.. Unlike it's owner..$6258 for the 301i thanks to Chris. Glad he pulled the trigger and got it. Makes me feel better, since I let that one go..Last edited by Brand X; 11-25-2019 at 12:22 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Green thing is at another shop of my buddies, has been for awhile, he wanted to learn to be a tig welder, I told him go for it! He just came and grabbed another 10lbs of 4043 today so it must be going good.I have 4 300's of HE50 just filled and ready for more work coming in. Argon is just for DC and plasma marking anymore, once I got hooked on the helium there is no going back. I can actually weld .250 with the little TA 185 on the juice, I think it puts out more than it says it does, those are great little machines, I just don't stress it on big stuff. Its more of a shop ornament anymore. My cash flow was not quite either but it only took me a couple minutes to talk myself into it.ESAB Rebels 215 and 235, ESAB HELIARC 281i, ESAB ET 301i, Hypertherm 85 and 45XP, Thermal Arc 185, TD 60i, HTP PRO PULSE 300
Reply:My 185 arcmaster (last model was a excellent machine..Welded exactly like my 300 pro-wave did.. The LM-200 welds the same as the MST-400 (had two of them) But has a much nicer arc start on smaller solid wire.. The 400's took a lot of tweaking to get the run-in right. LM-200 is really made for the stuff.. It does output 330 amps, and solid voltage, so about the same as a 300 Multimaster. Good enough for me.. The MST/LM is my all time favorite short-arc/spray arc inverter I have used or owned..That said,the little Caddymig 160 gets the most use in my home shop. Just great beads on CO2 gas.. Not very many machines run that gas as well as the little esab.. So easy to set, and use.  I will probably go with 25 % HE for my first go round.. depends what Air-gas sells in Portland..Last edited by Brand X; 11-25-2019 at 01:04 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Looks like these machine use the funky TA-186 style ft control.. Two switchs in the pedal.. It's for setting the preview amps while the ft control is plugged in. Unless you have a modified ft pedal with a switch to kill that feature while welding, best to use the standard 600285 pedal for the 141-181-211-252 machines.. You will just have to unplug the 8 pin  to set the welding parameters.What the deal is there is no remote/panel switch on the power supply to toggle the preset amps/etc for setting the machine up with a standard ft pedal plugged in.. In a way it is ok, because you will never be able to have the machine in panel, and hit the ft control for full output by mistake..It will always feather the power by the ft control. I am guessing you might be able to see the full set amps with the ft control plugged in, but you would have to floor the pedal to see it.. I Believe that is how it works? I think killing the 2/4 step in the software setting will be a thing you might want to do also.. Just from reading the manual.Has some factory amp min. amp setting you might not like.. C08 – Foot Control MinimumCurrent (GTAW AC mode only)When set to “ON” the increasedFoot Control Minimum currentis disabled and the minimumcurrent on any electrode is 5A.When set to “OFF” the increasedFoot Control Minimum currentis enabled.The minimum currents are:electrode 0.040" – 0.080" (10A)electrode 3/32" (15A)electrode 1/8" (20A)Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:They'll be good machines for sure. I believe they are Lorch T series with a slightly altered spec and paint scheme.I'm a huge fan of Lorch, I have a HT200 and have used a Saprom pulse MIG, in some ways they're miles ahead of the competition, and in others, you get a high quality german built machine for similar or less money than Miller/Lincoln/Esab.
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand X220i, and the 301i meaning it's set for the USA market.. If you watch the price on the 301, it might drop.. If someone buys one, look for a huge price increase. The 220i has stayed the same so far, since i bought one anyway..,Might drop again,but i will take the deal in front of me..
Reply:The 8 pin on the front panel is different then the euro brother. Since guys kill the auto torch sense in the euro units, one less thing to do there.. Although a preview torch switch mounted in the pedal might be the first order of business.. Sad when you have to look up your own thread to figure out what wires to jump for the switch..Looks like a switch mounted in the side of the ft pedal, and wired to #7 and #5 pot wires will give you preview panel amps when jumped. The machine will be here today, so I will see if the manual is correct on Preview amps not showing when the pedal is hooked up.. Basically what you are doing is adding a remote/Local switch to the machine by adding a switch in the ft pedal  #7 Remote Control Potentiometer Wiper  To #5 Remote Control Potentiometers Maximum pins..Otherwise with the standard old school ft control, the preview amps for adjustment will not show with ft control plugged in..That is why this thing uses the aborted twin switch ft control, with a piece of tape inside the cover to make it all work.. ( TA-186 ft control setup)On the price,(301) still over $3000 anywhere else. I just leave my 120 volt cooler plugged into the wall.Just have to remember to turn on always.It's why I now run a 15 ft water-cooled torch..Last edited by Brand X; 11-25-2019 at 09:34 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:I'm sure the Lorch versions don't have a switch in the foot pedal, it's auto preview. They all use the same pedal for the range, which has a 14 pin plug. You leave the torch switch plugged in.Tweco versions have always been a bit weird in this way, from what I understand, and it seems they've continued the wappy control design through Esab/TA stuff too...Last edited by Munkul; 11-25-2019 at 10:47 AM.
Reply:I understand the lorch model are done right, but just throwing some options out to have a panel/remote setup correct.  Using the goofy troublesome 2 switch ft control  is real PITA. You have three options Use the dual switch ft control. add a remote switch to it and remove the extra preview switch inside the ft pedal, use a standard Thermal-arc ft pedal,and remove the 8 pin fitting every time you need to adjust the power output. Might be another way other then drilling a switch into the welder someplace.. That is to use the 14 pin Automation Remote Control Socket and add a switch to the 5 k pot there.#3-#4 pins on the back of the machine..I need to see what is up before I do anything. It will show up today at some point, and all of this might be a moot point? Probably not, if the Manual is correct.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140iScott, looking foward to your run down on this thing after you get it. If I have to unplug pedal to see max set amps/preview so be it. Not real worried about that, and if I need a toggle then I think I can manage that modification based on your wiring layout. I am interested in arc qaulity, starting etc and running on the RPC. I am going to use one of my CK torches and a coolmate for now, I have an extra 8 pin TA pedal so hope that works, 1016? Something like that.I just pulled up the listing for the 220, seems they are dwindling down in stock, awesome deal surprised not sold out yet.Last edited by Jawslandshark; 11-25-2019 at 11:45 AM.ESAB Rebels 215 and 235, ESAB HELIARC 281i, ESAB ET 301i, Hypertherm 85 and 45XP, Thermal Arc 185, TD 60i, HTP PRO PULSE 300
Reply:OK,I have to use my SCC Miller 14 pin/1K pot pedal to 8 pin adapter to test. Always worked on the other Thermal-arc inverters.... I am thinking I have a remote Hyperthrem contactor box i can add a 14 pin control plug too.. Depending on the layout of the rear 14 pin on the back of the machine.. That pedal you have will work fine..Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:OK,I have to use my SCC Miller 14 pin/1K pot pedal to 8 pin adapter to test. Always worked on the other Thermal-arc inverters.... I am thinking I have a remote Hyperthrem contactor box i can add a 14 pin control plug too.. Depending on the layout of the rear 14 pin on the back of the machine.. That pedal you have will work fine. The 600285 works for sure.. Just some of the Thermal arc pedals have two pins jumped to sensing the pedal is plugged in  No biggie on clipping that wire.. Older machines needed that setup to work  We only need 5 pins, like the  Miller machines. There are later esab units for the rebel that have a extra jump wire too.. Long time since I messed with any of those.(edit) The Thermal-Arc GTSW 300 I had needed the jumper pin to turn on the contactor for a button control.. The rest of them don't seem to need them.PS- I only have one aluminum tig rod left.. not going to b much of a AC demo.. 1/16 at that..Looks like you are good to go on the pedal..https://www.usaweld.com/Thermal-Arc-...sterisk-ta.htmLast edited by Brand X; 11-25-2019 at 12:50 PM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:I have ordered it too.    For what this unit can do on paper price is quite good.  I presume Tweco fabricator 252i tig torch with hand controls should fit.  I will add USAWeld pedal later, with 17 series torch..Last edited by Offwidth; 11-25-2019 at 02:11 PM.
Reply:Don't know. Amazon sent me a Esab 100 plasma cutter. instead. That would be a 100 amp /3 phase/ 400 volt deal.. Kind of worthless to me..Last edited by Brand X; 11-25-2019 at 03:37 PM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:What??   Is this a case of them utterly screwing up?   That would be a pain.  I have ordered matching bits from another place.
Reply:Brand X - thanks for the posting. I didn't see anything listed here with respect to: 1) Who is the seller? It says Amazon Services, but is this via ESAB, or a reseller who has inventory with Amazon? 2) It shows that it's just the power supply. Is this correct? No ground lead, etc.? 3) Do we know if these are new or refurbished? Thank you.
Reply:Well.. my package is on its way.   I guess I will deal with disappointment on Wednesday.   I just wonder what they will say.
Reply:I am thinking power supply only. But you have to remember I got a euro spec Esab cutmater100.. Sent it back and the other one will be here on Wed...I really did not look over the package to see who send it.. It should be a new unit.. Plasma was but the box was opened at one time..I did make my Preview setup,and got the correct input plug from Amazon. The box will toggle from off setting to either Momentary on and or latched on.. I will figure the correct plug when it shows.. Just set it up with two pins for the back 14 pin socket. It will just sit om my cart anyway, so will tie it off someway.. It will be a good fix, if it's needed. got to love Hypertherm's stuff.. Attached ImagesEsab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Originally Posted by CRCFXBrand X - thanks for the posting. I didn't see anything listed here with respect to: 1) Who is the seller? It says Amazon Services, but is this via ESAB, or a reseller who has inventory with Amazon? 2) It shows that it's just the power supply. Is this correct? No ground lead, etc.? 3) Do we know if these are new or refurbished? Thank you.
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand XI am thinking power supply only. But you have to remember I got a euro spec Esab cutmater100.. Sent it back and the other one will be here on Wed...I really did not look over the package to see who send it.. It should be a new unit.. Plasma was but the box was opened at one time..I did make my Preview setup,and got the correct input plug from Amazon. The box will toggle from off setting to either Momentary on and or latched on.. I will figure the correct plug when it shows.. Just set it up with two pins for the back 14 pin socket. It will just sit om my cart anyway, so will tie it off someway.. It will be a good fix, if it's needed. got to love Hypertherm's stuff..
Reply:Originally Posted by JawslandsharkPower supply and mains, nothing else. Amazon is seller, these are not refurbished, to my knowledge and been told ESAB does not market refurbished units at all. Just like the 60i I was getting mine from TX probably from ESAB warehouse, or stored somewhere at Amazon warehouse close by.
Reply:It is now.. I had no use for it, but knew someday it will come in handy The control box came with my Hypertherm 65 package.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Having seconds thoughts here.   Think I really need ability to run on 120 on occasion.   And losing 20A without  third phase.   Hmm.    But the Aspect 230 or HTB 221 DV are twice the price.   Need to decide before it comes in tomorrow.
Reply:Originally Posted by OffwidthHaving seconds thoughts here.   Think I really need ability to run on 120 on occasion.   And losing 20A without  third phase.   Hmm.    But the Aspect 230 or HTB 221 DV are twice the price.   Need to decide before it comes in tomorrow.
Reply:Too me it's going to be all about arc quality.. 120 volt AC welding on most things is pretty useless. a cheaper DC 120 volt welder would work for most 120 use.,, I am thinking the Lorch should be at the very top on things that matter to me.. Since I can get probably get the extra 20 amps at my place.. If the overall arc quality matches the Esab 2200i AC/DC, then it will be as nice as welding machine as you can by anywhere from anyone.. That is what matters, and somewhat of a unknown . Only thing I am really worried about, should I have pulled the trigger on the 301 when it was a super deal? If it welds like the Thermal-arc 300 prowave, then somebody got a screaming deal..Last edited by Brand X; 11-27-2019 at 09:43 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:From the Lorch people themselves over here, they say the Esab branded units are similar to the Tweco branded units - Lorch T series hardware with a few features removed or changed.The AC arc quality on my HT200 (itself a cut-down T series) is an absolute pleasure, and it's a far superior machine to the Esab Caddy 2200i... and I've used the caddy quite a bit, too. I really can't see you being disappointed by it. From what people say it's an arc similar to the old Sanrex-made ThermalArc machines. Smooth, stable, consistent, looks after tungsten sharpness, what more do you want. Also it has pulse on AC, too.The T series have a stiffer arc (from what I've been told) but that stability is still there. Then again, Esab maybe have done their own arc tuning, who knows.they're pretty good on power, as well. Can run a full 200 amps for extended periods on a 13 amp fused 240v supply here.Let us know what you think when you finally get it
Reply:The Esab Caddy I had was very similar to the last model Sanrex.. Just had more features for button controls./stick/I had the ft control on mine.. The biggest thing with the caddytig, it was very sensitive to what it likes as far as electrode types.. It needed quality there, and Diamond Ground Tri-mix was some of the best.. I also ran as little of Electrode Positive start current  as possible. It would mess the the tip bad, if you got a bad arc start. The Lorch has a bit more adjustment there and will be welcomed. Mine was the Sweden model, and not built in Poland, like most of the Caddy 2200I- 34 panel units.Stick had a million adjustments, but would use my LM-200 way before I would use the esab. Just super nice right out of the box, The 2220i was OK with Power, but the 200 amp China Thermal-arc 186 was about as good as it got with power of a generator.. Full 200 amps AC output on a 6000 watt generator running at 4000 ft.. Caddy would run 165 amps.. If the Lorch matches the China Model then it will be outstanding there.2000 PPS on the Lorch. That should get it done.. The 200 HZ will be enough for me, since the 150HZ on the Esab, and Thermal machines worked well.. Always had a tight cone compaed to other machine ran at way higher freq's. Spec sheets say certain things that may or may not be important when using it. Got to take each machine into your shop, and try it. Up until then, just pissing in the wind..I probably will not get to use the Machine for a few days, Need to head over the mountain passes before it gets too bad/late..  I might be able  to power it up a bit, and see if my 3 phase rotary works with it.. All three of my inverters work fine on it, and pull way more Power then the Lorch will.If not stuck to 200 amps output on single phase inputNot a deal killer with some work a rounds..The extra 20 amps is always welcomedLast edited by Brand X; 11-27-2019 at 11:34 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Looks like the ET-220i is all sold out on Amazon. Hope mine is OK, or is the correct one this time?Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Wow, this thing is small and light! I think I remember seeing these at Fabtech a couple years ago but I must have forgot how compact they are. For this thing put out 300amps is amazing, you could carry this anywhere. I got the plug wired and powered it up for 3-phase, seems well built. I will run through the manual and see how it works later. I think 15 of these would fit in the same space as one Syncrowave 350 tigrunner just by comparing the two. Attached ImagesLast edited by Jawslandshark; 11-27-2019 at 07:22 PM.ESAB Rebels 215 and 235, ESAB HELIARC 281i, ESAB ET 301i, Hypertherm 85 and 45XP, Thermal Arc 185, TD 60i, HTP PRO PULSE 300
Reply:UPS is super slow today.. Guess it was the one snowflake that hit the ground, and made them hand-off to the local delivery guy.. Lives up by me, so last one the route..I should of been in Portland by now, but looks like I am running the winter passes at Midnight.. Oh well guess I can wire mine up before I leave. The MIN current is what I am going to set firstHold  BACK Welding Parameter Button down while switching the power on.. CO8 set to on..Which is off. Just to see how low the arc will taper off in AC..Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Well, UPS wanted a signature, so I will see it Friday.    Time to think if I want to spend extra 1500 for Aspect 230 AC/DC instead.  To get lower floor and higher ceiling in amps plus easier local service.
Reply:The lorch is excellent .Perfect..It's a upgraded Sanrex (IMO) I believe when Chris runs his, he will back me up on this.. Yes I had to add a interface box to see Preview amps when the ft control is plugged in. #3-#4 pins on the back works for that.. It gets around  not having to unplug the ft control for setting amps..Which you can set peak amps where you want.. Others said that was not possible but it is...Bad net info..  I used my Miller SCC controls ft pedal, and it work perfect on it too.Still can use on my other 14 pin thermal-arc The way Esab setup preview amps was to use the goofy 2 switch SCC control pedal First seen on the Thermal Arc 186 out of China..My machine did not have a C08 setting, and have to leave it along. It's fine as is,This machine was worth the List price by the way..Lincoln might have a lower and Higher floor.,but kind of doubt they can even reach the bar that this machine sets.. Attached ImagesLast edited by Brand X; 11-28-2019 at 12:37 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:I got to run some test beads, works perfect on the RPC, took it up to 275 amps without issue. Definatley a slept on machine probably due to the 3 phase for the higher power. I set it on 200 amps with HE50 for some 1/4 6061 and puddled immediately on 60hz so I don't think single phase would be an issue for aluminum but have to check with straight argon and plugged in on single phase. The adjustments took me a bit to run through, the HF starts seem to be solid. It has an arc quality other than what I am used too, in a good way, it's actually what I was looking for and the little bit of pulse I did try was flawless, nice and defined. I will have to run it head to head with my other tigs and the same settings to compare. I need to put in more seat time with the unit and get real familiar with the layout, It makes pretty welds so far on aluminum and for the little bit I have done am impressed with the ESAB Lorch. I will have to do what Scott did for the preview amps eventually but it has not bothered me so far.ESAB Rebels 215 and 235, ESAB HELIARC 281i, ESAB ET 301i, Hypertherm 85 and 45XP, Thermal Arc 185, TD 60i, HTP PRO PULSE 300
Reply:You guys lost me with all that foot pedal, toggle switch, controller boxes, clipped wires, unplug for display, 14-8 pin adaptors...what? What happens if you use the 8 pin pedal from SSC Controls (C850-0825)?My inquire to Esab regarding the water cooler power supply on the 301 got me the following answer:The ET 301 does not have a power outlet, but does come as a water cooled package. The power for the water cooler is run through a interconnection cable.