How much juice does a welder really use?

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So,I got a letter from the power company today.  (Not behind on my bill or anything, just a letter).  The letter had a graph, which showed MY monthly usage, and compared it to my average neighbors' monthly usage, and my "energy efficient" neighbors' monthly usage.  My usage was about 20% higher than my neighbors, and 37% higher than my "energy efficient" neighbors.  Now, some of that is likely the 2 electric space-heaters I run in the garage when I am working out there, or the one my wife uses in her basement art studio, but I really wonder how much of that is my welding, cutting and grinding.  I have a MIG 175, and go through about 10-12lbs of wire per month; not sure what that equates to in power usage.  I also know that my chop-saw uses quite a bit of power, not sure how many times I have tripped the breaker if I have other things on the same circuit as my chop-saw.  So, anyone know about how many kw/hr a MIG 175 set in a middle power range uses?Check out my channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz...bZg8AYNXGqBjZQ"Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms." - Aristotle
Reply:Your space heaters are the power hogs.  I know that from experience.  Last winter I ran a space heater in my bedroom just in the evening hours before going to bed.  My power bill increased more from that than it ever has from the welding and other equipment.  That was just one 110v 1500 watt heater.  Sounds like you could be running up to 3.  If using in the garage, they may be running non-stop and really using juice.My name's not Jim....
Reply:I did the math with a Miller 175 simply cause I had the manual. Rated output 130A, 30% duty cycle with 230 1ph 60hz input.Input amps at rated output is 19.5If you ran max duty cycle at rated output and left it idling the rest of the time, assuming that it's pulling 5 Amps at idle comes out to about 2.27 kWh.If you are running 1500W space heaters constant as was mentioned. That's 1.5 kWh per heater.Hope that helpsNickESAB CaddyTig 2200iPowermax 45MM140 (Sold)
Reply:Originally Posted by SnuffyRated output 130A, 30% duty cycle with 230 1ph 60hz input.Input amps at rated output is 19.5If you ran max duty cycle at rated output and left it idling the rest of the time, assuming that it's pulling 5 Amps at idle comes out to about 2.27 kWh.
Reply:U can buy a kilowatt meter for 20$ and it will tell u what any 120v device actually costs to runMany times the specs are different than real world usageClassic example is the question how many miles per gallon does my car get?Obviously depends on how u drive  r there any hills.  Do u slam the breaks. Accelerate fast.  Etc.  EPA mpg is only a guestimate
Reply:Looks like my space heaters are probably what is drinking up most of the extra juice.  I have a propane heater, but can't run it for too long in the garage with the door down, not if I like breathing oxygen.Check out my channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz...bZg8AYNXGqBjZQ"Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms." - Aristotle
Reply:Its got to be electric heaters, you got 3 on the go so thats why your bill is higher than your neighbors, The welder don't come near what power those heaters use.Have you asked your neighbors what heating they use?
Reply:Originally Posted by IronHide I have a propane heater, but can't run it for too long in the garage with the door down, not if I like breathing oxygen.
Reply:If you want to run propane heat in your garage get a carbon monoxide monitor and you should be safe.  They aren't expensive, I use one when i need heat in the garage.
Reply:Originally Posted by Rich59If you want to run propane heat in your garage get a carbon monoxide monitor and you should be safe.  They aren't expensive, I use one when i need heat in the garage.
Reply:What about the clothes dryer and the water heater.  Could you be using electricity here where the neighbors are using propane or natural gas for the clothes dryer and getting hot water off their furnace which isn't electric.  How about the cooking stove?  Do you have a speptic system that has to have a pumping set up because the leech field is higher than would work otherwise.  How about those fancy twirley bulbs.  It could be stuff like this.Using an unvented propane heater puts a lot of water in the air.
Reply:Originally Posted by fran...k.What about the clothes dryer and the water heater.  Could you be using electricity here where the neighbors are using propane or natural gas for the clothes dryer and getting hot water off their furnace which isn't electric.  How about the cooking stove?  Do you have a speptic system that has to have a pumping set up because the leech field is higher than would work otherwise.  How about those fancy twirley bulbs.  It could be stuff like this.Using an unvented propane heater puts a lot of water in the air.
Reply:They add lots of water to the air.  I get a layer of ice on the inside of my windows.  Run the heater all day and the ice is gone till the next morning when it comes back twice as thick.Like I said earlier, just open the overhead door. Every 3 hrs or so seems to make a difference humidity wise.  I'm sure it helps with the oxygen level too.  I open mine for about 5 minutes to let all the grinding/welding smoke out.  The room temp recovers quickly.My name's not Jim....