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发表于 2021-8-31 23:25:43 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
I supposed a bit of introduction is due. This is my first post, and I am looking for info. Hopefully this is the right section.My name is Patrick, I am a heating and refrigeration mechanic by day. I mainly do industrial and commercial application and some of the resi stuffs the company throws at me. I am thinking of perhaps a career change, as refrig tech requires some crazy long hours (on call on some ungodly hour), hard on the body, and we're the last person ppl called and they expect some miracles done on the cheap (specially restaurant). I read an article about how welding inspector and NDE tech could make north of 120k on the oil patch. Even refrig mech doesn't make that much money, and I guess as the inspector, you don't really do all the heavy labour, just verifying some else's work. I've dealt with inspector and csa/ashrae/anzi codes, so I understand how it works. As long as the inspector is not being an a-hole/stuck up and picking on some obscure not important part of the code every one will get a long fine. I'm willing to work and take the education required. How do you become a welding inspector? I've done a fair bit of search, and seems there's almost no info on what course to take or even the what's the prerequisite to take the course or write the exam. I've looked into cwb website, and the info they have is very vague. on one page they say no pre-requisite required, yet when I called they want at least one year of welding experience equivalence. I asked what could be considered as one year equivalence and the lady basically don't have an answer, just keep repeating what she said (I might got a front office/secretary lady). So I've left an email and voice message on the person that said he's responsible for training. I've done a bit of smaw/stick and oxy, but most often what I do is brazing and silver solder. If some one have some info or able to point me to the right direction that would be great.Thanks.Pat
Reply:If I was going to become a cwb weld inspector, I would get a cwb weld cert. and work as a welder for five years, then perhaps you might be ready to judge other peoples welds."The reason we are here is that we are not all there"SA 200Idealarc TM 300 300MM 200MM 25130a SpoolgunPrecision Tig 375Invertec V350 ProSC-32 CS 12 Wire FeederOxweld/Purox O/AArcAirHypertherm Powermax 85LN25
Reply:I worked as a welder for 10+years, then went on to get AWS QCI certified. I liked doing the inspections and it was fairly easy for me since I had a welding background. Books will not give you the experience you need to become a good welding inspector.ChrisAuction Addict
Reply:There are so many variables in welding my friend.  It's very important to understand a bit of metallurgy as well as correct welding processes and the effects of improper welding.  Steel -A36 Hy80 Hy100, Stainless Steel- Duplex or 300 series, as well as Inconel, Hastelloy, Aluminum 2000 series 4000 series 5000 series, copper nickel pipe..... Not to mention filler metals and shielding gas mixes.  Do u understand why we need so many metals and whats the best way to weld them?I could go on and on there's several variations in between.  You should at least have some understanding of some of this and be able to certify to weld or understand the weld processes.   I'm not putting you down, or trying to discourage you.  I never do that.  What I am saying is if your going to be a CWI take it as serious as a heart attack.   IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!  It's about making sure procedures were followed to ensure quality for safety so people DO NOT get hurt or killed on top of and economic reasons.  Especially if you are working on the pipeline!  Now if they want to pay you $120K a year to be the man then I'm all for it.  Just don't look at your cert as $$  There's responsibility to it.   Nothing replaces experience.  Just like milomilo and norite were explaining. I'm taking my CWI test in March.  I would love to get a CWI with a CWB reciprocity.   Canada stopped it last year.  I'm not sure why they stopped taking the A.W.S. standards for Canadian inspection.  Does anyone have any info to elaborate on this?  My thought is if Canada only wants 1 year of experience for CWB CWI why the hell are the AWS standards not good enough?  At least 3+ years of welding experience plus engineering education is required for our standards.“I'm going to do the thing that God put Galen Beasley on this Earth to do:Have Salon quality hair and weld.Nothing like a good cup of coffee and the smell of 6010 burning in the morning. 971-204-3444 cell API ASME Structural NDT and Repair
Reply:There used to be a points system involved in qualifying to test as a welding inspector ( CWB)  It was something like over five years experience welding.  An engineer with a degree and no welding experience I think just barely made the qualification.  I did this about 20 years ago so things have changed.  Also you had to have a rreport from your optometrist saying that you had correct vision.  Glasses were ok but they were making sure you were not blind.  LOL
Reply:I don't know what goes on in canada, but I've met a 3 or 4 inspectors that never welded one being a female.     one was a kid about early twenties in the bay area on big jobs.   Another is a cwi that the closest thing he ever done to welding, was working on cars.  I've run into him about 4 times.   Then recently we were waiting for the inpector to show up so I could start to weld down a modular MRI unit down to its foundation at a hospital, and the contractor I was working for says " hey, the welding inspector is a blond."   I laughed at him.  He said, " no really, she is.   Next thing I know, this good looking ponytailed blond comes down the sidewalk.   The closest thing she ever did to weld was she came from a contruction working family, and she was AWS.   Anyway, there jobs arent all gravy and 120gs a year either.   They drive around rampant from job to job for there company hustling and arguing all day.   The tests they pass and pay for arent easy either. Seems the inspection companies want inspectors w/ other credentials also, so they can inspect cement, bolt torques, etc, and keep all this valid.   cwi make around 18.00 an hour around where I am, and that don't sound to good to me unless they get put on a prevailing wage job for a while.   Figure when contruction is down, your down.
Reply:Originally Posted by 123weldI don't know what goes on in canada, but I've met a 3 or 4 inspectors that never welded one being a female.     one was a kid about early twenties in the bay area on big jobs.   Another is a cwi that the closest thing he ever done to welding, was working on cars.  I've run into him about 4 times.   Then recently we were waiting for the inpector to show up so I could start to weld down a modular MRI unit down to its foundation at a hospital, and the contractor I was working for says " hey, the welding inspector is a blond."   I laughed at him.  He said, " no really, she is.   Next thing I know, this good looking ponytailed blond comes down the sidewalk.   The closest thing she ever did to weld was she came from a contruction working family, and she was AWS.   Anyway, there jobs arent all gravy and 120gs a year either.   They drive around rampant from job to job for there company hustling and arguing all day.   The tests they pass and pay for arent easy either. Seems the inspection companies want inspectors w/ other credentials also, so they can inspect cement, bolt torques, etc, and keep all this valid.   cwi make around 18.00 an hour around where I am, and that don't sound to good to me unless they get put on a prevailing wage job for a while.   Figure when contruction is down, your down.
Reply:I'm guessing the cute blonde was a CAWI certified associate weld inpector till she has enough hours.“I'm going to do the thing that God put Galen Beasley on this Earth to do:Have Salon quality hair and weld.Nothing like a good cup of coffee and the smell of 6010 burning in the morning. 971-204-3444 cell API ASME Structural NDT and Repair
Reply:Originally Posted by 123weldI don't know what goes on in canada, but I've met a 3 or 4 inspectors that never welded one being a female.     one was a kid about early twenties in the bay area on big jobs.   Another is a cwi that the closest thing he ever done to welding, was working on cars.  I've run into him about 4 times.   Then recently we were waiting for the inpector to show up so I could start to weld down a modular MRI unit down to its foundation at a hospital, and the contractor I was working for says " hey, the welding inspector is a blond."   I laughed at him.  He said, " no really, she is.   Next thing I know, this good looking ponytailed blond comes down the sidewalk.   The closest thing she ever did to weld was she came from a contruction working family, and she was AWS.   Anyway, there jobs arent all gravy and 120gs a year either.   They drive around rampant from job to job for there company hustling and arguing all day.   The tests they pass and pay for arent easy either. Seems the inspection companies want inspectors w/ other credentials also, so they can inspect cement, bolt torques, etc, and keep all this valid.   cwi make around 18.00 an hour around where I am, and that don't sound to good to me unless they get put on a prevailing wage job for a while.   Figure when contruction is down, your down.
Reply:Originally Posted by blitzhmmm.... of course if the story made the article it is the best possible story. I know def I could tackle the book and theory portion. I understand that book smart is different from experience/field smart.  I have some greenhorn at work that I've told that too... lol. now I got told by other more experience ppl.. hahaha. I have some welding experience, but I def wouldn't call my self a welder. And things I've done is not held to any standard or has to be able to hold so many psi/newton of force, as long as the piece stay together I'm ok... lol hahaha.  thanks for the info guys, appreciate that. I'm just looking for a feedback before committing to this. No one in the trade like inspector really in reality. I certainly don't. Then again the one I've met have I'm holier than thou attitude or have serious i don't care and can't be bothered, I'll pass it. wouldn't inspection is just for example I look at your weld, compare it to the spec and whatever code is supposed to held and tell you yes it pass or no it won't pass? I mean in the refrig/heating trade is exactly like that. I supposed it help if you understand the trade. what about the NDE aspect of it? how could one qualify for it?  I'm still interested to give it a go.
Reply:Originally Posted by galencwiI'm taking my CWI test in March.  I would love to get a CWI with a CWB reciprocity.   Canada stopped it last year.  I'm not sure why they stopped taking the A.W.S. standards for Canadian inspection.  Does anyone have any info to elaborate on this?  My thought is if Canada only wants 1 year of experience for CWB CWI why the hell are the AWS standards not good enough?  At least 3+ years of welding experience plus engineering education is required for our standards.
Reply:Awesome! thanks for the info jrw159“I'm going to do the thing that God put Galen Beasley on this Earth to do:Have Salon quality hair and weld.Nothing like a good cup of coffee and the smell of 6010 burning in the morning. 971-204-3444 cell API ASME Structural NDT and Repair
Reply:thanks for all the input
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