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Is it generally allowed or not. Ccw is concealed carrySent from my iPhone using TapatalkUsing Tapatalk
Reply:Tell a welder he can't do something and see what happens.Sent from my DROID RAZR using TapatalkLong after the price is forgotten, the quality will remain.Both of my Poppy's 1954 Short Hoods -Third generation to weld with it and teaching a fourthSA 2## - Bought and sold more than I can remember or care to list, 8 in the shop right now
Reply:Originally Posted by Adam ArcTell a welder he can't do something and see what happens.Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
Reply:Um . . .. . . that's not concealed. MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:I had a propane job that sent me to bad areas in the middle of the night. Even cops told me it wasn't safe.Company forbid weapons - so I just never told them. Easiest solution.I currently use the Crossbreed SuperTuck holster - best I've had for extended inside the waistband carry.http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/Last edited by MinnesotaDave; 02-06-2014 at 07:26 PM.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI had a propane job that sent me to bad areas in the middle of the night. Even cops told me it wasn't safe.Company forbid weapons - so I just never told them. Easiest solution.
Reply:Originally Posted by justin.walsh.969Good advice. I carry a lot of place that it's frowned upon. If you conceal well nobody will ever knowSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:I think you'll find conceal carry on the job to be uncomfortable.  It's also hard to keep it concealed and easily accessible.  Both problems can be overcome but may require a number of gun and holster combinations.  It's no different than clothing in that both weather and job requirements dictate dress and will also effect choice of  gun and holster.
Reply:What is that Glock? A 21?Idealarc 250AC 225SVictor OA-older made in USA stuff.And a crap ton of other stuff.
Reply:Originally Posted by Rich59I think you'll find conceal carry on the job to be uncomfortable.  It's also hard to keep it concealed and easily accessible.  Both problems can be overcome but may require a number of gun and holster combinations.  It's no different than clothing in that both weather and job requirements dictate dress and will also effect choice of  gun and holster.
Reply:Originally Posted by kaldWhat is that Glock? A 21?
Reply:I can't tell you how many refineries and chemical plants I've been in with mine on multiple occasions.  And I'm far from the only oneUsed to be they had lockers one could place their PDW on the way in and pick it up on the way out.  Now they just don't want to deal with it.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Originally Posted by justin.walsh.969Yep non sfSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by kaldNice!  I have a had a non SF gen 3 21 for about 10 years.  If you can't shoot well with a Glock 21 you can't shoot well. I've gotten pretty husky lately, ok may as well just say fat.  And my beloved 21 would still be a bear to CCW.
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55I can't tell you how many refineries and chemical plants I've been in with mine on multiple occasions.  And I'm far from the only oneUsed to be they had lockers one could place their PDW on the way in and pick it up on the way out.  Now they just don't want to deal with it.
Reply:I can't even begin to type all my comments, but... you are flirting with legal and employment disaster if caught in violation.  Never mind the erosion of our (my) gun rights by flouting the fact in a public forum that you would carry in violation of work place rules and possibly legal restrictions.  That's just ignorant.  You even use your full name (presumably).  Don't think employers look at your online presence as part of background checks?Where ever you are, were you required to take a class before being licensed to carry concealed, and if so, did you ignore what you were instructed?Last edited by RodJ; 02-06-2014 at 09:15 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by RodJI can't even begin to type all my comments, but... you are flirting with legal and employment disaster if caught in violation.  Never mind the erosion of our (my) gun rights by flouting the fact in a public forum that you would carry in violation of work place rules and possibly legal restrictions.  That's just ignorant.  You even use your full name (presumably).  Don't think employers look at your online presence as part of background checks?Where ever you are, were you required to take a class before being licensed to carry concealed, and if so, did you ignore what you were instructed?
Reply:I love working at a shop where ccw is expected. At first the office ladies were uncomfortable with open carry in the office. Then the pain management shop moved in around the corner and the junkies started coming in asking for directions.   Now they just have me come up and give directions. Lot fewer people stopping in. Sent from my SPH-L900 using TapatalkMultimatic 200Ellis 1800Haberle S225 9" cold sawMM 300;  Spoolmate 30A w/ WC-24TB 302GDynasty 280 DX Tigrunner
Reply:Justin - Same here, only guilty of a crime if I refuse to leave when requested. Charge would be trespassing.Only had to expose my firearm twice.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:The only place I don't carry is federal buildings. I don't have kids so I'm never near a school zone.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkUsing Tapatalk
Reply:And if an employer wants to give me **** for something I said on a forum. I probably wouldn't work for them.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkUsing Tapatalk
Reply:No federal buildings, no schools, the rest is up to you but those two are definite no-nos. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Reply:Never mind the erosion of our (my) gun rights by flouting the fact in a public forum that you would carry in violation of work place rules and possibly legal restrictions. That's just ignorant.
Reply:7A749 - when I carry my full size weapon I'm wearing bibs and a jacket. No problem concealing. When I wear less clothing the  I use a ruger lcp. I always wanted to shoot a NAA but none of my friends had oneSent from my iPhone using TapatalkUsing Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by FarmDadIf your asking for permission to do it  you have moved it squarely from a right to a privilege.  Just saying....Where I worked up until last March that took me into refineries and chemical plants everyone would come running at the sound of a slide being racked rather than run from it.  One wasn't expected to carry but it was just presumed you were.In Texas we can carry concealed in our vehicles (even w/o a CCL so long as you would otherwise qualify) as an extension of our personal property (HB1815, 9/07) thus it goes where I go.  So if I happened to be called out to a job . . .    well, it went along for the ride.  It rests in a convenient, easily accessible by me but well hidden from sight so when they do their "peek inside the open door and under the hood security check", they're none the wiser.  It's not there for me to have pulled out and show it off it's just there as a daily routine.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:How ergonomic is it to have a gun strapped to you? I know plenty of guys who keep them in their truck, and I think maybe one operator that kept it on his person. I do a lot of laying on my side and crouching, constant moving. I would leave it in the truck or teach the helper how to shoot Don't carry a gun into an atom plant, you will be shot on site.  Or so the signs sayLocal 83
Reply:Originally Posted by RodBenderDon't carry a gun into an atom plant, you will be shot on site.  Or so the signs say
Reply:Originally Posted by RodBenderHow ergonomic is it to have a gun strapped to you? I know plenty of guys who keep them in their truck, and I think maybe one operator that kept it on his person. I do a lot of laying on my side and crouching, constant moving. I would leave it in the truck or teach the helper how to shoot Don't carry a gun into an atom plant, you will be shot on site.  Or so the signs say
Reply:just in case the helper screw's up the coffee order again. BAM!i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:What gun?Concealed means concealed!Better 12 on a jury than 6 on my coffin...Buy American, or don't whine when you end up on the bread line.
Reply:Originally Posted by WeldingMachineBetter 12 on a jury than 6 on my coffin...
Reply:Originally Posted by justin.walsh.969I couldn't agree moreSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPI like that!  ...NO! Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Look how many people are killed every year by cars! ...
Reply:Originally Posted by that'll_buff_outAccidental deaths by guns last year out number 'intentional' deaths by cars for the last 20 years.
Reply:Originally Posted by docwelderjust in case the helper screw's up the coffee order again. BAM!
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPWOW! Really? I did not know that. You mean there are that many mechanically defective guns out there? The gun was standing in the corner with no human around it, and it shot someone? Or was it the case of? “Gez I thought it was unloaded”.
Reply:Originally Posted by docwelderjust in case the helper screw's up the coffee order again. BAM!
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Reply:Originally Posted by docwelderjust in case the helper screw's up the coffee order again. BAM!
Reply:new york city is a pretty tame place these day's but back in the day if anyone had carried a gun to the job he would've been laughed off the work site. you can't be a real ironworker in nyc if you gotta carry a gun on the job.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Originally Posted by TimmyTIGthat or grinds the bead too thin! Maybe the fit is bad? Why do you need to carry on a pipeline? Seems a little paranoid...
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749There was a time when I wouldn't answer the door without a gun in my hand.I was a different person then tho. Not that I don't still have ways & means to defend myself. Both at home & on the road.I NEVER viewed carrying a gun as being paranoid. After doing a lot of self defense training & living where I did (Las Vegas Metro area) I knew how bad things could be in this wicked system we live in. My aim was solely to protect myself.I will never begrudge anyone who seeks to avoid becoming a victim of violent crime. I guess my beef lies with some who view a concealed weapons permit as a carte blanche ticket to use deadly force in any situation where they feel threatened. Many who have this view have little to no self defense training & often have a lacking ability of awareness, which in my opinion is one of the TOP self defense tools anyone possesses.Not saying in any way this is the case with the OP. Only stating that its a fine line to walk when you carry a gun. In most cases, if you use it without a damn good reason, you'll be spending time in prison for it. Not also to mention the civil litigation that is almost surely to follow. I personally feel its just not worth it to me at this point in time, hence the reason I choose not to carry a gun anymore.Justin, I think you have been carrying long enough that you know what works for you & what doesn't. Discretion is the key in your case with regards to carrying on the job. A small, lightweight weapon will fit the bill best, coupled with good awareness & ability to keep the fact you are carrying as much to yourself as possible.I carried illegally for some time before getting a legitimate permit. I got mine when the Sheriffs office personally issued them & the Sheriff of Clark County personally signed your carry permit. I still remember Jerry Keller's signature in fine black sharpie on mine Lot different deal now. It's a LOT easier to get a permit than it was twenty years ago, at least in Nevada. Keeping silent about it before getting a permit meant not going to jail & losing my gun. The principle carries over just as much when it's legal.IMHO of course
Reply:Originally Posted by justin.walsh.969Many people that get their permit think it's a license to kill. In my state you get charged with murder if you kill in self defense. Then it is up to the jury to decide your verdict. Whether you were fending for your life or not. I have always legally carried. My county required a 12 hour course. Fingerprints and a federal background check. You give up some rights to gain some I guess. I have switched to my smaller gun thanks to all of you guys advice. It's just a lot more ergonomically fit for my body. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:there are more murderer's per square foot where i work than anyplace on earth but if i had to rely on anything more than my wit's and as a very last resort my hands to protect myself then i must be in the wrong place.Last edited by docwelder; 02-08-2014 at 02:06 PM.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:this is what I carry. Low recoil, holds 6Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkUsing Tapatalk
Reply:The LCP is what I carry 85-90% of the time Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Dave- I love itSent from my iPhone using TapatalkUsing Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by docwelderthere are more murderer's per square foot where i work than anyplace on earth
Reply:Originally Posted by cepi was in nyc in 1973, whoa! Them people are just plain mean! And i grew up just south of oakland california.