FINALLY!!! I am taking a welding class

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I got a call back from someone at the local college and it looks like I'm getting to skip the prerequisite class and get right into the tig welding class. It's going to be a CRAZY schedule for me. Tues/Thur 5:15-8:30 I have my daughterWed 6-10pm schoolM-F 8am-5pm workSometime during the week chiropractic care for my backAnd I'm going to need a full time dog sitter or get rid of the dog since I will never be home. One of the sucky parts oof breaking things off with the girl.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Keep the welding class and get rid of the dog. As for the girl, Half of the people on this planet have "mommy parts".  You'll get another one as soon as your want it.Two turn tables and a microphone.
Reply:Ya I'm not worried, she will be fine. And the dog is a pain in the *** more than anything but I love her I just registered to be a student so when my confirmation email comes back I'll sign up for the class. Also the nice thing since I'm out of district is that my work is in district so I just need a letter from work and I'll get the in district pricing.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:One way to get the most out of school shop time is to prep practice pieces at home and bring them in. Another way is to sharpen a bunch of tungstens at home and keep them in a container on you. You can still "one for one swap" with the school supplied tungstens but avoid wasting time at the grinder during class.Always be "one pair of TIG gloves ahead" but hide the spares to avoid theft. If your gloves get a hole in class, tape isn't a very good patch.I ensured everything I brought to school was UGLY, DIFFERENT and WELL-MARKED. Some folks will steal the proverbial "goodie out of a biscuit" without breaking the crust. Later, when I worked there, I advised students to do the same. There's a reason many companies paint and etch their equipment. PINK is popular as it stands out.Bringing a personal 4.5" angle grinder is convenient. Find out early if they have plenty of consumables. Some schools neglect this but you can bring and hoard your own. Don't loan out tools. Those who are too lazy to keep proper gear don't need to be in the business, and loaning them yours makes them even slacker.Avoid chitchat. A great way is to have your helmet down and be welding. You are there to learn, but others will be there to boolshiite.Wear natural fabrics. Synthetics melt then stick to flesh.Have comfortable boots to facilitate prolonged standing.Don't wear white shirts (they reflect light under your chin) and use sunblock on any exposed skin. Skin cancer won't make retirement much fun.Figure out quickly if bringing any personal clamps etc will make you more efficient.Have FUN.
Reply:Farmall gave you some good point. Remember you get out of this what you put into it.A few other things to keep in mind. Don't wait for the instructor to wander by if you are having issues. Go to him. Lurk outside the booth of the person he's helping and grab him as soon as he comes out if need be. You don't want to be a pest, but often if you just say "I'd like to see you when you get a minute" you may wait all night. Instead "Hey I have a quick question before you go on to the next guy..." Have good pointed detailed questions ready along with examples. " Hows my weld?" is a poor question. " I'm having issues with undercut in these coupons.  In this one I had the machine set at X and am using about 60% on the pedal... In this one I had it set at Y but I needed a bit more pedal... Are my amps right?" You've seen enough of the help posts to get the idea. The more detailed your explanation, the better and faster he can assist you. If you don't understand, ASK! Watch carefully what he is doing when he does a demonstration. Watch the puddle, watch his hands. Watch how he positions himself, how he rests his hands or body. In some cases it helps to ask him to do a dry run and not strike an arc, so you can clearly see these things with the hood up. Remember there's a ton of variables with tig. Arc length, travel speed, amps set, how much pedal, hand positions, how he's adding filler and when, plus so much more.Make notes and write down info the instructor gives you. You have no idea how many times when I get told to go help the guy in booth 3, that guy has no idea what settings he should be using. The instructor told him last week, but he didn't bother to note them down. That or he simply never bothered to ask. Get a small note book where you can note the material, position, joint type, amps, filler, gas settings, travel speed and so on. Often much won't change, say gas and gas settings, even possibly amps, but still make a note even if it says "same" or "standard" and refer back to a basic start point. A quick sketch and the basic general notes like are usually asked here are a good start point. Also make notes about any "ah ha!" moments. "OH, so if I hold a longer arc, my puddle gets wider than when I hold a closer arc..." "note to self... red dust on plate indicates I dipped tungsten. Need to stop and regrind." Many times I'm spending time reminding people of stuff they learned last week. That or they ask " I was doing great last week, but this week I just can't get the same results..."  "Is everything set up the same as last week?" "Uh, I don't know....?"As mentioned practice at home, and bring in some samples to talk to the instructor about, both real good examples, as well as real bad ones where you are having issues. Talk to him ASAP, then spend your class time working on solutions to those issues, or learning new stuff. Then near the end, try and at least see him again and ask what you should concentrate on at home when practicing. Instructors usually like to see people who are interested in really learning and not just marking time. If you show him you are serious, chances are he'll pay more attention to you if you are having issues. If you are rolling along great, he'll trust that WHEN you have issues, you'll bring them to his attention. In the mean time he'll leave you to do your thing and help others.Keep in mind other students can also be a help. Sometimes they may have just had the same issues you are having and can provide a "simple" answer that might be easier to understand. One thing to remember though, they may also give you BAD info as well, just like here sometimes. Some instructors also don't like it when students "teach" other students, simply for this reason. If the instructor prefers you do things that way, do so..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:That's great and a lot of good suggestions. I would like to add that try and determine the second smartest guy in the class (you being the first). Buddy up and sit next to him. He can watch your back and maybe you can bounce ideas off of him.Good luck!Yakdung
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleI got a call back from someone at the local college and it looks like I'm getting to skip the prerequisite class and get right into the tig welding class. It's going to be a CRAZY schedule for me. Tues/Thur 5:15-8:30 I have my daughterWed 6-10pm schoolM-F 8am-5pm workSometime during the week chiropractic care for my backAnd I'm going to need a full time dog sitter or get rid of the dog since I will never be home. One of the sucky parts oof breaking things off with the girl.
Reply:It's at college of dupage. Tig 1142-005I registered to be a student but just got to wait for my confirmation email then sign up for the class. That is a ton of great info. Few questions. Do you bring your own helmets as well? Honestly never thought of boots, but that will be on my list of things to get. I'm super excited about it. When I used to go to college I did ok and failed some but mainly because I was young and didn't care. Found something I liked and graded with almost straight A's (lincoln tech est program) so I intend to get the most out of this class that is for sure. The only down side is work. We have a rotating on call schedule and nobody at work will ever switch with me even on the days I have my daughter. Maybe because I'm the youngest guy by about 10 years I'm not in their click, but you would think they would help me out after all the times I have helped them out over the past 3 years I have been there. I have been on call EVERY holiday for the past 3 years. So as long as I don't get screwed through work I will be at every class, everytime and early every time. Once I register (hopefully tomorrow) I'm going to make a list of what I need and start my purchasing. I'm going to reread this thread again and again. Keep the help coming.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:You are not there to make friends.  You are there to learn.  Yes you need to be friendly and polite, but as stated spend your time under your hood.  The second time through people tend to be more serious.Practice, practice, and practice.  Get a tool bag/box and brind what you need to do your job.  Don't waste time trying to get by.  Aslo, learn to do your prep.  Dont' just stick two plates together and start welding.  prep is everything.  Watch what other guys are doing and learn from them.  you can learn from the bozos as well as the aces.last of all have fun.  don't stress and over think it.  welding is a lot like a zen thing.  once you are there, you are hooked.
Reply:I always bring my own PPE. Most places only have very basic stuff to lend and most times it's beat to death. My hood would be my #1 item to bring since if you can't see well, you can't weld. Spare batteries aren't a bad idea either unless you have a spare hood if you use an AD hood. A set of clean cover lenses in your kit is another good idea.Here's whats in my "class" bag.My Miller Elite hood. Spare batteriesSpare hood ( on the truck, Fixed shade 10 Jackson)Spare cover plates for both hoodsHead gear and spare ear plugs.Thin tig gloves, Medium weight mig gloves, Heavy stick gloves (I'll swap based on what sort of demos I have to do most in the class.)Mig pliersLarge pliers for handling hot metal ( not as big an issue since the school got tongs last term)A few assorted tips, collets, tungstens etc. (That way I don't have to bug the instructor if someone messes up a tip. I'll just get another from him when it's convenient.)Chipping hammer and steel wire brush.SS wire brush for alum tig Add in my leather jacket.Most of the other stuff is on the truck anyways, 2 grinders, one with a wire wheel, one with a sanding disk or  grinding wheel. A few clamps to hold coupons while I prep them. ( generally I find at the school space is limited at the grinding table, so I often prep my stuff in the booth with my own tools to save time. This is especially true if I have to do demos on bevel but joints or tig where I need to do a moderate amount of prep to show someone what to do. I also have some dust masks on the truck if I'm doing a ton of grinding..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:What do you mean when you say coupons in terms of welding? I'm just assuming a small say 2"x2" piece of metal?Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Ours are  approximately 3"x6" pieces, but yes, I'm talking about the metal you will weld on..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:A coupon is that portion which is cut from a test plate, or pipe, for the purpose of destructive testing.City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Makes sense. So class has an available of 18 and only 14 signed up, somehow the class is full and I'm on the waiting list. But I'm the only one on the list so it shouldn't be a big deal.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Congrats, go for it.  Farmall made me smile. One of the few advantages of being older with income is you can "cheat" by suppling your own stuff.... traded out or whatever. This saves you time which will let you get more out of the class.   Nobody wanted my gear, it was too beat up to be desirable Good luck sounds like fun.   Loan your dog out to a friend maybe?Lincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:Nobody wants her, she is a pain in the *** lol. She thinks she is a cat. I left a protein bar on the counter to come home and find out she opened it and ate half of it.Then left a sealed back of dog treats on the counter which she went up there and grabbed and opened and ate half of them then **** all over the house.I leave for work this morning and walk out, forget my phone walk back in and see her jump off the counter. There was nothing up there for her, but she is a pain so I going to tie angle weights to her sooner or later.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Boots should be steel toe, same as you'd wear on a job site.Inquire if the school fees pay for a standard gear package, or if that fee is EXTRA. If it's EXTRA I'd LOOK at their stuff and get a list, then POST the list here so you can adjust it and often get better gear. Post their list price and the folks here can chime in to get in around that figure. Then we'll also have a "student tool list" anyone can reference this thread to view.Basic student packages sold through schools are designed to make the school a few bucks, and because many students are fully-funded, get the student their gear without expense on their part.The instructor will have a list of required gear and personal clothing standards.For example, our school had hard hat/helmet combos so students would get minimum gear to show up at a jobsite. I found them heavy so I bought a Fibre-Metal Pipeliner and the other helmet stayed at the house.A SEVEN gallon (fives will work too) plastic pail with a rope through it is a great way to carry gear while having something to sit on that won't bite your azz. I cut the center out of the lid and snap it back on for reinforcement. Floor wax pails are good ones to use.------------------Dog is a Korean delicacy, so you could always "wok the dog" and share it in class, Bring some kimchee and rice for side dishes.Last edited by farmall; 12-08-2011 at 02:14 PM.
Reply:Most of your basic equipment can be found at a pawn shop.  I am currently enrolled at MATC in Orem, Utah, and was given a list of items I needed. Some very specific items I bought from the school, but the generic tools like visegrip pliers, grinders, etc I get, or will get from pawn shops when I can. The 5 gallon bucket is a good idea, but get one for quenching, too. Saves a ton of time when you can turn and dunk instead of walking to the quench station all the time.  See if your school has a deal with any welding shops in the area. I get a 30% discount at 2 local welding shops. REALLY hoping I can afford a new or used Miller Dynasty 350 before I finish with school.
Reply:CHECK best retail prices online and at local welding shops (who you may want to make friends with) prior to visiting pawn shops. They make their money on interest payments on pawned items and tend to sell unclaimed items high. Plenty of deals to be had, but remember they rarely have ANY money actually invested in low-end items! Never directly remind them of this, just pull out cash. Fridays are often good since they may want to make more money if the week has been slow. Some schools don't do water quenching. Check first. We didn't since there is no particular reason to have mess and delay, and we made sure no one quenched in the sink since it leaves slag and slag SUX to clean out of sink traps! It's easy enough to treat everything as hot and do whatever you need to since you wear gloves when cutting and grinding the coupons.
Reply:Great!  I had a great instructor and really enjoyed class.  I was amazed at the number of classmates that didn't show up over half the time.  There were 4 of us that were serous about learning.  One was pretty experienced, two (including me) were in the middle, and one guy was new but determined.  It looked like he took us 4 the most seriously, though he helped all.  Those last couple classes were great too, as there was only the 3-4 of us and he asked "whaddya wanna try?"  And we did arc gouging, TIG (steel, SS, alum) , MIG, OA...and it was a stick class.Bring your own helmet, and if you can swing it an autodarkening is easiest.  Other PPE is up to the class, but I'd bring your own gloves too.  If the helmet is new, batteries should last 3 yrs, and doing TIG you should not need a new faceplate for a loooong time.  You can figure out the rest, especially with the good advice here.  Go to the first class with gloves and helmet and see what else you need before going crazy.-DaveXMT304 with: 22A Feeder, or HF251 Hi Freq DC TIG air cooled
Reply:Also, have plenty of spare clear cover lenses for whatever helmet you use. Heavy welding will use up one a day easily. If you have an expensive helmet, find the best cover lens price online and bulk up.Cover lenses are like toilet paper. Most of us don't buy it by the sheet when we run out.For conventional helmets, I wear a clear lens on BOTH sides of the glass lens. It protects the glass, and your face if you ever sustain a smash to the helmet. You always have one clear spare because you are wearing it.I suggest learning using a conventional helmet so you can cope if an autodark fails on the jobsite. Lens clarity and tint choice abound. Gold and silver coated lenses work well for many folks.
Reply:I was actually going to ask this. Should I bring my expensive helmet or my cheap 0. I have the miller performance helmet and the auto darkening $99 helmet from lowes. Kobalt brand.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Bring whatever you can see through best, but stay attached to it.  Once that habit is burned in you'll do it automatically.Ya gotta see as accurately as possible, bottom line.
Reply:This is a great thread, and I like the posts about how to stay concentrated, how to waste less time when in the short evening classes, and the tips.  I'm in a welding class right now, and here are a few things that I have seen:When the instructor is showing a few of us a technique, it's a constant surprise that there are so many things to pay attention to above and beyond what he's doing with the torch-hand.  Sometimes I catch a thing or two extra that my classmates don't, and that helps when we discuss amongst ourselves how we're doing with each new step.Most of us - maybe all of us - have the inexpensive auto-darkening helmets from Harbor Freight.  The instructor (heretofore known as "God") has a Miller camo auto-darkening helmet, and while he derides harbor Freight welders and some HF tools, he agrees that the HF AD-helmets do the job for the constraints of the class.If I can, I show up 30 minutes early.  While my new God probably has some set schedule by the school, he's been allowing some of us to get started setting up and get started earlier than the start-time of 6 PM.He's a great teacher, and recognizes both what it takes to teach, and the small amounts of frustration the students will experience when focusing hard.  When we began Oxy-Acet welding (which I guess is like learning Tig welding techniques), he told us to not get too caught up in the minor feelings of frustration after trying hard for a while, and to take a minor break once in a while when we feel something isn't going all too well.  This helps a lot - and our "minor breaks" all seem to be to head over to some other advanced  student's project, or to when the instructor is showing a technique to an advanced student, or to help get something done in the shop... so everything is welding-focused and a learning opportunity, even if it is a break away from having your head in the fire and pushing rod.Lincoln Handy Mig
Reply:Well I'm disappointed to say the least.The class is full and I have been on the waiting list I started this thread. I'm just going to go to class anyway and check it out, maybe the teacher will let me in.I think I'm going to email the teacher and give him a heads up that I'm on the waiting list and I'm showing up anyway.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal DealerI'm not sure if I understand what your saying...You are on the list and waiting for a opening or you are on the list for the actual class, but they over filled the class?? I suggest you DO show up usually there are students that don't show up for class on the first day, and if you are there then they will probably keep you and boot the other guys that didn't show up.Lincoln pro mig 180Lincoln Square Wave Tig 300/wp 20/home built water cooler Victor, Purox, Harris, O/A welding/cutting setupsVintage Craftsman drill pressVintage Craftsman/Atlas 12"x 36'' lathe7''x 12'' w/c band saw Everlast 140 st
Reply:The class has a total of 18 and I'm the 19th person to sign up so I did not get in the class I am on the waiting list waiting for someone to drop and nobody has.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Got ya, I would still show up though, like I said there usually is atleast one or two students that don't show up..Lincoln pro mig 180Lincoln Square Wave Tig 300/wp 20/home built water cooler Victor, Purox, Harris, O/A welding/cutting setupsVintage Craftsman drill pressVintage Craftsman/Atlas 12"x 36'' lathe7''x 12'' w/c band saw Everlast 140 st
Reply:What should I bring? At first I was thinking just a notebook and pen and now I'm like, wait this isn't highschool I should bring my helmet & gloves. Not sure what else.I have to get back into the groove I haven't gone to school in almost 10 years. Still have to find out what books I need and where to get them from. Online or at school.I emailed the teacher basically saying that I'm on the waiting list, I'm serious about learning and I will be attending class tomorrow. We will see if he gets back to me.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Go for it! I hope you get a slot, one way or another.If you bring gear you already have, you'll probably be ahead of the game.A couple of the schools running Adult Ed courses in my area only specify "boots and long pants are mandatory" in their course description. Another school, the closest to me, doesn't say anything about safety gear, but they have a "materials fee of $40 payable to the instructor," so maybe they hand out safety gear in order to have everybody using the PPE that the school/imstructor prefers. The fourth place, the one where I'm thinking of taking my first class, says "Students need their own safety glasses and welding gloves and steel-toed footwear." Yeah, I got that. (My US Forge gloves arrived last week, and my Speedglas 9002X arrived in today's mail.  )Good luck with your class.
Reply:You may get lucky. I know the school where I help out at likes to keep the number just below the maximum number of machines available. That leaves the instructor a bit of "cushion" in case a machine goes down or if a student needs to come in from another class to make up a day. He uses the "extra" spot if need be to get a student in that took the previous class but the class is "full". To fill that "extra" spot, it usually requires the instructors written OK.If nothing else, go right in to the office and tell them you want to sign up for the next class in advance, and want to put down a deposit and pay the rest closer to when the class will actually start. Be sure to explain that you were unable to take this class due to the fact it was full, even though you were in the previous class. I've made similar arrangements in the past.Right now I'm signed up for the 2nd machining class that starts 1st week in Feb. I signed up at the end of the last term, in Nov, but made advanced arrangements to put down a small deposit then to hold my spot, and they will bill my credit card after Jan 27th for the remainder.  I did this for several reasons. One I wanted to make sure I got a spot since the last class was very full, and second I really wanted the bill to reflect 2012 rather than 2011 for tax purposes / work. The "work" part helps a lot. They are used to dealing with students who have work pay for all or part of the tuition. Most work places will not lay down big sums of cash well in advance for a class though. Last thought. You might talk to the instructor and see if he needs some help in the class. You show up, help students get set up, help them prep materials and so on. If a student doesn't show up, you might be able to get some time in welding. Some instructors don't like students getting info from anyone else but them. Others know that sometimes students do better with someone that's closer to them and that they aren't as intimidated by someone with a bit less experience. Can't hurt to ask....No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:first project is tack up a crate for the dog..good luck
Reply:Thanks, I'll let you guys know how it goes.DSW, are steel toe boots or even boots in general a requirement?Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Most of the places I've been want some sort of leather boot. Steel toes are usually optional. That said, I've seen people in other shoes, including one guy who wrecked a brand new set of running shoes when the sparks set them on fire. He was a bit pizzed at that.The instructor where I'm at isn't quite as anal about shoes/boots as he is about the other safety gear like jackets and so on.I'd be more concerned with good foot wear in a stick class than say a tig class, with all the dripping slag..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
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Reply:Last thought. You might talk to the instructor and see if he needs some help in the class. You show up, help students get set up, help them prep materials and so on. If a student doesn't show up, you might be able to get some time in welding. Some instructors don't like students getting info from anyone else but them. Others know that sometimes students do better with someone that's closer to them and that they aren't as intimidated by someone with a bit less experience. Can't hurt to ask...
Reply:Just got this email from the teacher, should I still go.Paul, I checked my waitlist and my schedule and we are still current. These classes fill up fast. Thank you for your interest but there is just so much I can do
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleNeedless to say I'm not going tonight and am NOT happy.
Reply:Find out how to get in faster next time. When registration dates come due, be waiting for it. You have to act fast. I found out late that as a veteran, I was eligible to bump to the first day of registration. I never missed out on classes after that. But before I found that out, I had to jump on my registration date as soon as possible. It did not always work. Persist! City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:I will mark it on my calender to be sure I get in time for summer classes.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Well got some good news. Got a call today from my dad saying he was looking around at htp website. They have a class next month for $135 for 4 hours that he enrolled me in. Can't wait to try this one. After that I'm on the list for a mig class as well.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:I am taking a class in may and the list of supplies for the class isoxy and arcJacketSleevesGlovesHelmetChipping hammerWire brushGrinding shieldSafety glassesSoapstone Holder and stoneCutting goggles4.5 Inch Grinder4.5 inch grinding diskSafety toe bootsComeaux cap4.5 Wire wheelMig / Tig Mig pliersTig gloves1 pack tungsten 2% ceriated siz 1/8Welding tips 1 pack ws16s-45Tig cups 53n58 53n59 53n60 53n61 45v45 13n24Electric die grinder with barrel type bits 80-120 grit
Reply:Ask if you can use a tinted face shield instead of goggles. Better ventilation, far more comfortable, allows standard safety glasses underneath.I loathe, abominate, revile, and detest cutting goggles. Don't like 'em much either.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmallAsk if you can use a tinted face shield instead of goggles. Better ventilation, far more comfortable, allows standard safety glasses underneath.I loathe, abominate, revile, and detest cutting goggles. Don't like 'em much either.
Reply:We lost about half of our students in the first 4-5 sessions.  Many of them had never welded anything. Our limit is number of stations and we share the lab with the FCAW and GMAW sections.  O/A and SMAW are during the week.For plasma cutting I've got a #5 grind mode on the Speedglas that works great.