another iron worker question

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http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...3&categoryId=0anyone ever look into these?  if you had the tools, it looks like you might be able to build one.  I know its not production, but there doesn't seem to be any commercial grade units for sale used around here....  just seeing what the consensus was....
Reply:Gee, how shall I put this?If I wanted an ironworker, I'd haul a real machine 1000 miles before I bought one of the POS toys from Northern.Where will you get parts?What makes you think Northern knows squatt about ironworkers?Do you think Northern can or will support the machine in a few years?It's cheap Chinese junk, and deserves to be left on Northern's dock.Appreciation Gains You Recognition-
Reply:franz, i believe METAL PRO is made in the USA[they claim to be anyhow!] but i have issues with a 110v~1 1/2 motor producing 45 tons at the punch [even with the leverage biult into the punch set!] then theres the dual action of the cyl.....cyl must push to punch and pull to shear, dual action valving? i looked at these pretty hard before i bought my EDWARDS......it never hurts to look,unless they`r WELDING!
Reply:For that price, I would suggest buying the Edwards 50 ton Ironworker. I just bought one a month ago for under 4900.00 delivered. Unit included starter punch set and coping attachmentJ P Streets Welding LLC