Couple projects for the truck.

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Well finally got some time to finish the back bumper. Going to start on the front one as soon as sledding season is over. Cant justify paying almost 4 grand after tax for an aftermarket one its just ridicululious. Attached Images
Reply:heres a picture of the front one im starting, same general concept of fabrication although it wont all be able to be bent as one section. Going to get a little more creative on the bush guard, make it cleaner looking, im thinking some more machined spikes of some sort. Attached Images
Reply:Nice. Do you do origami as your 2nd hobby?  I can't tell real well from the picts, but I'm guessing you scored the bends 1/2 way thru  with the grinder and slitting wheel to do the folds..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:OK...Now you are going to have to show us that ramp/bed thing in the back of your truck. Is it like a roll back truck bed? Is it for a snowmobile?Miller Syncrowave 200
Reply:nice work
Reply:awesome looking. When I get some free time and materials I was thinking about making something like this for my truck. I wanted to buy one but the prices are ridicules. Do you have any specs. you can share? Thickness of metal? What you used to weld it? Things like this would be a great help for me and others that might want to build one.Thanks
Reply:Now thats some dam fine work!I always tried to work with the oldest hand on the job to gain knowlege but now I can't find any.
Reply:Originally Posted by Ian-MetalSmithOK...Now you are going to have to show us that ramp/bed thing in the back of your truck. Is it like a roll back truck bed? Is it for a snowmobile?
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Reply:Originally Posted by Ian-MetalSmithOK...Now you are going to have to show us that ramp/bed thing in the back of your truck. Is it like a roll back truck bed? Is it for a snowmobile?
Reply:I have some specs for you if interested. Mind you this is pertaining to my chevy duramax.EVERYTHING is measure off center. Get your stock bumper length and find the center, and your golden, you can base every measurement off that, then its as simple as laying it out how you want it, regarding depth, width, length, various angles etc.- combination of 3/16" and 1/4" mild steel plate- did all the layout as if the bumper was unfolded ( takes some math, and time to do correctly ) some guys piece every piece together but to me thats not very efficient, and when you lay it out as one whole piece you know everything is going to be symetrical. - 1" D-Ring mounts, tig welded a 2" piece of stainless roundbar on the end of the clevis bolt, and took to the milling machine and did a little work to it - Mounting backets to frame are all 1/4" constrcution with slotted holes for adjustment up/down, side to side.- Before welding you HAVE to brace the **** out of it, i had a 6" piece of channel across the entire length of it, and various other supports. It was stick welded with 316-L as i had some left over from a pressure job, i used 316-L because of its filling characteristics and its finishing capabilities. Make sure to alternate welding positions, i ran one rod at one end of the bumper, switched to the other end and so on. Distortion is going to be your biggest factor in making one of these bumpers.
Reply:I am interested to see the mounting brackets/gussets underneith.Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Nice looking bumper, and work.Peter
Reply:I used to build a lot of bumpers, haven't done so in a long time, That one is quite nice. what did you paint/coat it with. Also when you said 4 grand, were you talking about bumpers?  Great work."Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400
Reply:Originally Posted by kolotI used to build a lot of bumpers, haven't done so in a long time, That one is quite nice. what did you paint/coat it with. Also when you said 4 grand, were you talking about bumpers?  Great work.
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Reply:very nice work!
Reply:How did you do the bends????Come try it out and stay a while.
Reply:Cut the perimeter of the bumper with a zipcut, then scored the material with the zipcut about 3/4 of the way through and proceeded to bend to the required angle and tack as i go.
Reply:finally got started on the front bumper, figured id post some progress. Still have to drill for fog lights, licenece plate mount, d-ring mounts, mounting brackets, and pre runner bar. Attached Images
Reply:Damn, I like that a lot more then what I was gonna put on my dodge... Very nice job, build a few more I bet you they will sell like hot cakes."...My pappy was a pistol I'm a son of a gun...""...God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy..."
Reply:ah its all what your tastes are regarding angels. Theirs alot of bumpers available in different variations, i just like the fab fours concept, but was not willing to fork out the cash for one as its absolutely ridiculious what they want. I really enjoy these projects while i dont have high pressure work to do, keeps your brain sharp with the math required. This was all laid out flat and bent as one piece, not pieced together individualy, that makes it even more fun
Reply:Why did you make the rear bumper so deep?  I think I would have tucked it in close, almost like a roll pan.My name's not Jim....
Reply:went exactly from the dimensions given on the fab fours website. As i did on the front one. These bumpers are definatly an acquired taste as they are very bold. Personally i love the big in your face look of them. A roll pan would be useless on my truck, hard enough to get into the box once my sled deck is on.Not a roll pan.   Almost like a roll pan. Just a little closer than a stocker.  You would still have the step in front of the plate.  I get the reason for the deep front one, gotta have room for the winch.  The rear just looks like it hangs out to far for my taste.  The quality looks good though.My name's not Jim....
Reply:those are some nice bumpersIf you like my stuff you can find me on Facebook.  https://www.facebook.com/theangryanv...ngryanvilforge
Reply:Nice work
Reply:Originally Posted by Pressure_Welder- Before welding you HAVE to brace the **** out of it, i had a 6" piece of channel across the entire length of it, and various other supports. It was stick welded with 316-L as i had some left over from a pressure job, i used 316-L because of its filling characteristics and its finishing capabilities. Make sure to alternate welding positions, i ran one rod at one end of the bumper, switched to the other end and so on. Distortion is going to be your biggest factor in making one of these bumpers.
Reply:Mostly all one piece laid out flat, marked. scored 3/4 thru  and bent to shape?  Is that correct?  Sheesh UR a clever guy.  ?  Could you incorporate a built in/hidden box somewhere front or rear for extra goodies like a chain/ tow strap etc?   U must have heavy bench to hold the thing upLincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:Originally Posted by Scott YoungWonderful build.  I am curious as to the use of 316L on mild steel.  You mentioned that you used it for its fill and appearance qualities.  I can't tell from the picts, but it looked like you dressed the welds with a flap disc.  I understand having left over quantities of it and using it up, I have a couple partial boxes of it.  I can think of a couple cheaper rods that would have given you the appearance and fill.  Just curious about mixing mild steel and 316L.  I would like to know more about its benefits or possible down sides.
Reply:Interesting.  everything I have read on using 316 directly on mild cautions against embrittlement (sp?).  since there would be saturation, the corrosion factor would be the same as mild steel, I would think.  I agree with you on the flow of the rod.  It is very nice.
Reply:definatly heat treating required to counteract the embrittlement, on pressure piping. and yes your right papa lion i find thats the best way to fabricate these items as  you know for an absolute fact by measurements its going to be symetrical as per both sides, It saves alot of time. It took me maybe half an hour to form all of it together and tack it once it was scored.Last edited by Pressure_Welder; 04-09-2010 at 12:29 PM.
Reply:There is an Ag raised bed forming  tool about the same size as that bumper I'd like to try... making small pieces and welding them together doesn't seem satisfactory. It just was not even and looked crappy.  This might be a way. Very keen, thanks much for a good thread.BretLincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:little more progress on the front bumper, glad to be almost finished. Just have to make fog light mounts and cutouts, machine my shackel bolts into spikes and fitt'r up. Attached Images
Reply:Dang, you should have built those things a little more stout.  You get rear ended by, or run into, a freight train and those bumpers are gonna be toast Very cool and I agree, I can't believe what companies want for those bumpers.
Reply:I cant wait to see it on the truck!
Reply:holy crap man.  That looks amazing.  I agree with wampler, I cannot wait to see it on your truck.Millermatic 135Syncrowave 250
Reply:well managed to fly it out of the generating station, but of course it rained the ENTIRE drive home and got rusty.... not impressed haha!  For going off the picture on fab fours website and not having my truck anywhere near me for this build, the bumper fit perfectly. Must've done somthing wrong !!! haha So its off to get line-x coating. Will post more pictures once its mounted permanently Attached Images
Reply:Pressure:  coming along nicely.. the Moose better stay outa the way. ?  I've been practicing a bit on grooving the inside of a piece of mild steel and then doing the bend. I'm clamping it down and using a large Crescent or two to grab it for the bend.  It breaks/tears instead of bending for me about 2/3 of the time.  I'm trying to bend it to 60 degrees.  So I'm doing sumthin wrong . Thickness is a 1/8" and 1/4" mild steel material ... needs heat maybe, groove depth is not right? ? what is a  probable cause? thanks much for any clues,Lincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:Papa lion: theirs definatly a little nack to knowing how deep to go through. Once you get some time with a zipcut you can feel in your grinder when your getting to the right depth. Usually 3/4's of the way through the thickness of the material will allow you to bend. When preforming the bend go slowly and if you find that it is infact starting to tear, before you go any further tack it in that section and then take your zipcut and score that tack until it allows you to start the bend again.
Reply:There in lies the rub:  Zactlee what is a zipcut?  and oh TACk in the cut so it doesn't get worse... that'll help for sure. Well  a "zipcut" huh?  Now, I'm using a 4 1/2 " Makita grinder and sometimes my 4" with a cutting disc in it.Lincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:this bumper build is just feakin sweet.
Reply:cutoff wheel/zipcut same difference, i personally use 3/64" zipcut wheels
Reply:Thanks much, I think I am using the grinding wheels which were too wide, or the cutoffs which I favor which are too narrow.  I'll practice it, 3/4 deep and tack if needed   Thanks much for the direction I appreciate that.  enjoy those HUGE bumpers... lots of work but very custom and will be fun to see them on the road. re:Your  Big bumpers, In Texas they might say "too much hat" but don't U believe everything they mumble, probably just a li'l envious.Lincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:You just need a bumper sticker that reads "BRAKE-CHECK  THIS"
Reply:Those are both SICK bumpers..... I Agree Breaking Bad.
Reply:papalion use the .040 - .045 thick cutoff disks or your choice.  depending upon the angle and the thickness of the metal I am bending, I have chased the first cut with a 1/8 inch disk to give more relief.
Reply:hmm just a thought papa, are you bening WITH or AGAINST the score? The main pourpose of scoring and bending in this fashion is to give you a very nice weld surface (cornor joint) per say. This is usually used where you are going to be grinding off the weldment for visual appearence. But in doing so you still have a majority of the weld left once your done griding as it was a cornor joint. Always bend with the score so it opens up too you versus against with where it closes up the joint.
Reply:You are a very skilled craftsman. ( i'm sure you already know that) Those are the coolest bumpers I ever seen,do you have any pictures of anything else you fabricated you have not posted?