Ornamental Railing

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For the back stoop of a private residence. Tomorrow I'll finish the adjoining stair rail that will bolt to the end of the longer run. They'll get powder coated low gloss black.Materials:Newels: 1" h.r. sq. barBalusters, arched mid rails & circles: 1/2" h.r. sq. bar (circles from King Metals)Top rail: 1-3/4" molded cover rail & 1/2" x 1" x 1/8" channelBottom rail: 3/8" x 1-1/2" h.r. flat barNewel ball caps: Cast iron (from King Metals)Brian LeonardAppalachian Ironworks L.L.C.434 Long Branch Rd, Marshall, NC 28753828 649 9966828 702 [email protected]
Reply:Pro Work bro! Def a satisfied customer you will have. Use your PowCon MIG or roll Stick?"Discovery is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought" - Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Reply:Nice work App! I like the arc within the rail...Just curious as to why you go through bottom rail with your end posts vs just butting the bottom rail to the posts and welding them off ?
Reply:Originally Posted by ManoKaiPro Work bro! Def a satisfied customer you will have. Use your PowCon MIG or roll Stick?
Reply:Nice work as always there Brian. The little details like that lower rail set it apart from "generic" work. I'd also like to note the level of prep you did prior to final finish. Lots of guys won't bother to go to the lengths you did for prep and it shows in the final product. Gloss finishes need a good smooth surface to look right. It's often these little things that separate the true craftsman from those who just bang things out..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Nice work, as usual.
Reply:Looks good and welds are clean. Work like a professional. Great job!
Reply:Flawless work! This project fascinates me. Well done.PlasmaCam CNC cutterLathe and Band SawClamps
Reply:Nice project, again.PeterEquipment:2  old paws2  eyes (that don't look so good)1  bad back
Reply:Nice looking work, can i borrow the design? Two questions: im thinking of doing a spin on your project but im thinking of using 1/2 inch square steel tube with 065 wall. The circles might be cut from a heavy pipe of the appropriate dimensions. Say you use a pipe with 3 or 4 inch external diameter, half inch wall and cut half inch slices. Alot of sawing but it might be less expensive? Do you think the hollow tube would work? How much do you pay for the circles from KingMiller diversion 165Miller mig 211Hypertherm pm 30Milwaukee 6230 14 inch chop sawMd 45 mag drill (RIP; fell on its head)New MD 45! Thanks to the esposa!Finally got an O/A setup
Reply:Originally Posted by [email protected] looking work, can i borrow the design? Two questions: im thinking of doing a spin on your project but im thinking of using 1/2 inch square steel tube with 065 wall. The circles might be cut from a heavy pipe of the appropriate dimensions. Say you use a pipe with 3 or 4 inch external diameter, half inch wall and cut half inch slices. Alot of sawing but it might be less expensive? Do you think the hollow tube would work? How much do you pay for the circles from King
Reply:Nice brian, i see what you mean. THose circles are not expensive. Will you do me a favor and email me the full size pix from post #1? I am very interested in doing something very similar. I will use solid per your preference for the reasons you mentioned. I'll send you pix when i get that far. If only the day job wasnt so time consuming!  [email protected] thanksMiller diversion 165Miller mig 211Hypertherm pm 30Milwaukee 6230 14 inch chop sawMd 45 mag drill (RIP; fell on its head)New MD 45! Thanks to the esposa!Finally got an O/A setup
Reply:Almost done.Last edited by app-ironworksllc; 04-26-2013 at 12:09 PM.Brian LeonardAppalachian Ironworks L.L.C.434 Long Branch Rd, Marshall, NC 28753828 649 9966828 702 [email protected]
Reply:Several pounds of grinding dust later, ready to go to the powder coater's.See ya next week.Brian LeonardAppalachian Ironworks L.L.C.434 Long Branch Rd, Marshall, NC 28753828 649 9966828 702 [email protected]
Reply:Very nice work. I am curious tho as why the circles don't evenly line up with the uprights. Would look alot better in my opinion if they were spaced between every other set of bars. Of course this is my opinion and you know what they say about opinions If you cant fix it with a hammer, it must be an electrical problem."Boy, everyone starts with a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before the bag of luck is empty."-Grandad circa 1990ish
Reply:Do you actually go over every inch of that railing with a flapper disc? I'd be worried about adding distortions to the flat surfaces that would show up after the powder is put on.Miller TrailBlazer 301Miller 12rc feederMiller ShopmasterMiller 22a feederPlasmaCam CNC TableHypertherm 45 cutterDrills, saws, blast cabinets etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by larpheadVery nice work. I am curious tho as why the circles don't evenly line up with the uprights. Would look alot better in my opinion if they were spaced between every other set of bars. Of course this is my opinion and you know what they say about opinions
Reply:Very nice work!  I wonder what kind of power you need on a mig machine to do a job like that?
Reply:Originally Posted by Pete.S.Very nice work!  I wonder what kind of power you need on a mig machine to do a job like that?
Reply:Originally Posted by burnt09Did you do those scrolls free-hand? Like maybe on that big anvil? They look really nice.
Reply:The finished products came out very nice.  Good job.
Reply:real nice touch, great job as usual!!                                   Bob
Reply:Looks very nice! I like the way the center section with the circles makes the transition from an arch up on the landing to the slope down the stairway.How hard is something like that to install? I imagine it's a little bit awkward to be moving around and level up as big as it is.Powcon 400SM2-PD60 wire feedersMiller XR controlAlumapro push/pull gunSpeedglas 9100xBFH
Reply:Originally Posted by Bryan27Looks very nice! I like the way the center section with the circles makes the transition from an arch up on the landing to the slope down the stairway.How hard is something like that to install? I imagine it's a little bit awkward to be moving around and level up as big as it is.
Reply:Looks great and glad it passed. Bit surprised. I thought they'd get you on "foot hold" for the horizontal members. Shop mate just did one that the client had removed the old railing to redo the stairs, not realizing that once removed, it has to be brought up to new code. Such a stupid rule. If it was replaced with a copy of what was there it would have been better than leaving the old rotted out one in place just for the sake of retaining the period correct one. That's what happens when desk jockey, bean-counters come up with brilliant ideas to keep themselves employed.200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.Originally Posted by bert the welderLooks great and glad it passed. Bit surprised. I thought they'd get you on "foot hold" for the horizontal members. Shop mate just did one that the client had removed the old railing to redo the stairs, not realizing that once removed, it has to be brought up to new code. Such a stupid rule. If it was replaced with a copy of what was there it would have been better than leaving the old rotted out one in place just for the sake of retaining the period correct one. That's what happens when desk jockey, bean-counters come up with brilliant ideas to keep themselves employed.
Reply:Glad to here some places still have reasonable people in the right positions. Sensible thinking seems pretty thin these days. Mike and I have always argued that the home owner, in the case of things like railings for example, should be able to instal any type of railing. If they don't meet certain "safety requirements", then a clause registered on title would advise future purchasers of it and they could proceed with purchase as is or insist changes be made as a condition of sale, or purchase and change it themselves and have the clause removed. Simple solution that doesn't impede on the rights of a home owners if they are not concerned with the safety issues. I haven't got kids. I could care less about foot holds in a railing. 200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:You do some great work bud. Beautiful I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Very nice, my only critique would be that it should be at my house, that is a great design.
Reply:Originally Posted by bert the welderGlad to here some places still have reasonable people in the right positions. Sensible thinking seems pretty thin these days. Mike and I have always argued that the home owner, in the case of things like railings for example, should be able to instal any type of railing. If they don't meet certain "safety requirements", then a clause registered on title would advise future purchasers of it and they could proceed with purchase as is or insist changes be made as a condition of sale, or purchase and change it themselves and have the clause removed. Simple solution that doesn't impede on the rights of a home owners if they are not concerned with the safety issues. I haven't got kids. I could care less about foot holds in a railing.