How do you guys weld these collectors?

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I'm not understanding this at all. They both look really hard to get into, there is less than 1/2" of space. What about when you have the 3rd pipe on and have to get inside both tight spaces for the last pipe?Btw this is not my picture, just one I found on the web.Someone needs to make a video on how they get in there because I am going  trying to wrap my head around it. Attached ImagesTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Clear cup, serious stick out, small parabolic torch.Or you could not weld the top joint until those two are welded.'Miller bobcat 225g  - spoolmatic 1Mm250 - 30a spoolMiller spectrum 375Thermal arc 95 Everlast Ex 250As the boiler turns, these are the days of our lives
Reply:Arent those slip collectors, the kind that you dont weld? Ive done the 3 and 4 tube collectors but the open style.Like these...http://coneeng.com/collectors.htmlGood luckLast edited by neverfastenough; 03-07-2013 at 09:18 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by neverfastenoughArent those slip collectors, the kind that you dont weld? Ive done the 3 and 4 tube collectors but the open style.Like these...http://coneeng.com/collectors.htmlGood luck
Reply:You need to use a gas lens with huge stick out.You think that's crazy?Look what I get to play with.Collectors by Jon Kensy, on FlickrMiller Diversion 180Hobart Handler 140 (Soon to be replaced with Miller 211?)Miller Spectrum 625 Extreme
Reply:^^^i would love to see how you do those!Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:It's a headache.  LIke an inch of stick out and pray it works lol.  The WP-9 will be better than my WP17 thats for sure.  I might try and plasma cut (or hole saw, quite frankly) some stainless "stars" to weld between the pipes vs trying to get down inside.  I've done a couple collectors - its not always pretty but it works.Miller Diversion 180Hobart Handler 140 (Soon to be replaced with Miller 211?)Miller Spectrum 625 Extreme
Reply:Think you can shove your torch in there on some really tight fits and get a pic of how you do it? Or what kind of pixy dust you have in your magic bag Do most places use the stars?Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleThink you can shove your torch in there on some really tight fits and get a pic of how you do it?
Reply:Oops lolTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2787713There ya go fexMiller bobcat 225g  - spoolmatic 1Mm250 - 30a spoolMiller spectrum 375Thermal arc 95 Everlast Ex 250As the boiler turns, these are the days of our lives
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