Blue Print and Fitting

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I am new here, and I was reading an old post where someone mentioned a "fitting Course" ?I am in school now and i am not aware of any fitting course available in my welding school. Is this something need to research?I am also looking to learn more in the measuring and Blueprint for my fabrication skills.A good friend of mine  who is a welder firmly discussed the necessity of this in the trade. stating, "anyone can lay a sexy beed and that is great, but you really need to learn the measuring and blueprint reading as well as getting into the symbols"As I said I'n my introduction that i went to a 5 week bluepint reading class, however, the teacher was a drunk and really didn't talk about much other than his scotch.So i passed it and moved on. I really want to know what i should do and what links are the best for gaining this type of knowledge.. i like doing projects and being tested if their is anything out there like that..Thanks guysCheers WD“It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.” ― Herman Melville“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.” ― Kurt Vonnegut
Reply:Well this is a loaded question....Not sure if there are actually welding print classes but reading prints is part of the job...Unfortunately most "Engineers" don't know what they are doing in the first place and figuring out what's going on is all a matter of study time.Most weld prints have a "Start" point and everything comes from said point...How far in?How far from the edge?Are all the holes in the correct place?Are the weld symbols correct?Are they even there?I deal with these issues dailey and you really need seat time with prints just like seat time with a torch in your hand....Good luck!...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Thanks, that actually makes me feel a little better. IT is just a play on time and experienceis what i have been gathering over the past few weeks. I definitely have a good understanding, or basic rather, of how to read Blueprints and math and all that jazzI was just find myself with anxiety wondering if what i am getting is going to be what is expected of me.Guess I'm just gonna have to take it day by day and when the time comes do the best at what i knowhow to do. Thanks for the replyCheers WD“It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.” ― Herman Melville“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.” ― Kurt Vonnegut
Reply:A book that I found to be very helpful in learning how to read prints was "How to Read Shop Drawings" from the James F. Lincoln Arc Welding Foundation. I think I paid about 10 or 15 dollars last year for my copy.Here is the link: http://www.jflfoundation.com/Product...?ProductCode=HSent from my iPhone using TapatalkAspiring Top-Notch WeldorLooking for work/experience in Eastern Massachussetts
Reply:WD, the trade 'welding' is practiced or performed to different depths in different locations. So, you could get a job where all the fitting, layout, cut, fit and tack up is done; where you run a wire feeder for hours putting on heavy section welds on industrial equipment like machinery or dredge buckets.   On the other hand, like Zap, you could work in a shop where you 'do it all' doing all of every task including the welding required by each different project, in his case he is a machinist, and designer too, he's called a welder but does design machine solutions so its not really the same as someone starting out in the trades.In one instance all you do is weld for the entire work shift, in the second setting you'd weld 5% of the time and the rest of the time will go to all the set up, prep and jigging up needed. The second scenario calls for the print reading the first one not really as that skill would practiced by others.So.... to say you need to read prints to get a job would depend on what end or the welding spectrum you're going to work? On the other hand knowing how to read prints isn't always coming out of a classroom setting.  I'd say that having good references on hand (fitter handbook, some weld guides ) would allow you to look up the symbols when needed, and in almost all cases you'll have someone to lead the work for the first several years of a career in the trades. It is a good idea to have some idea what's being shown in a print, to be able to 'see' the three traditional views as a 3D object, but the most effective learning is done when you can look at the print, then;    cut, fit and weld to that drawing's spec. This reinforces what's drawn, and correlates the symbols to the build; that's not something that always comes from a classroom setting.  Fortunately, few entry level jobs require an apprentice level welder to rely on prints to define their work.Learn the basics, the rest of print reading comes from working in the trade and that includes welds for specific tasks or print reading to define those tasks.cheers,Kevin MorinKenai, AK
Reply:Thanks“It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.” ― Herman Melville“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.” ― Kurt Vonnegut
Reply:There are books you can buy like this one. They come with blueprints, and a series of tests. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I ordered it, thanks,.Has decent reviews. the one that i wanted is 75$ used.. ouch..maybe a gift for my birthday  ha...WD“It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.” ― Herman Melville“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.” ― Kurt Vonnegut
Reply:Well it seems that Experience as a helper is going to be the main learning hereThanks for all the info, much needed to relieve that little bit of anxiety i was gettingi feel like i am in the right direction.. my welding so far as been very good. really studying how other people are doing it an techniques for passing AWS exams as well. I have till may... Thanks guysCheers WD“It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.” ― Herman Melville“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.” ― Kurt Vonnegut