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Yup, at it again. Went out to the shop early this morning, fired up the old Hobart to allow it to warm up while I gathered supplies for a small job I'm getting ready to do. I noticed the idle wasn't returning to low speed quite as linear as in the past. I went ahead and struck an arc and the idler's operation was inconsistent; the engine would readily accelerate and the machine would weld fine, but the return to low idle was inconsistent. Sometimes it would be 20 seconds, sometimes two minutes, and sometimes never. Thinking "what's up with that", I shut it down and pulled the idler solenoid from it's mounts. A quick teardown revealed a stuck slider piston that blocks the bleeder port bypassing vacuum to the dashpot which actuates the throttle. When the magnet is energized the piston is pulled up in it's bore blocking the bleeder port allowing engine vacuum to apply to the dashpot. When the magnet is de energized, engine vacuum acts upon the piston pulling it back down in it's bore till it uncovers the bleeder port and the engine returns to low idle. A needle valve, (much like a carburetor idle mixture valve) regulates how quickly engine vacuum is allowed to build in the cylinder this piston slides in. It is not like the Lincoln setup which uses the insert foam, or material to restrict vacuum build. Anyway, everything about this thing is grungy and I really don't want to heat the shop, nor the parts washer tank for such a small run so elected to do it on the stove while my wife is sleeping. Man it's getting hard to find a metal coffee can anymore and I looked high and low in the garage till I found one full of bolts. I figgered plastic will hold bolts but to boil these parts needs the metal can; (after the last go round with the dishwasher, I ain't doing that again). Parts are boiling on the stove as I type this and man is that water dirty:Hopefully this will finish up pretty quick. I can't smell anything so am laying odds the kitchen doesn't smell like the shop as that's another set of problems.......SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:You're dead meat. A female domestic partner (read murderess) can and will smell irregular odors in her domain (read wherever the Hell she is at that time) down to scientifically impossible to measure levels.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:You're so screwed........Tim Beeker.
Reply:I would not even attempt anything like that in Mrs zap's kitchen...Maybe outside on the grill but....I know better....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:If this does not work out well I would lay bets if she had woke up to Maxwell house instead of Krouger you might live to see some of 2015.
Reply:Oh man,  you better hope she doesn't make you drink that coffee.Not likely, but,  I wish you a Happy New Year.  :-)
Reply:My girlfriend would just laugh I routinely use the kitchen table whenever I'm doing something semi-clean and I don't feel like warming up the shop.Just get them broke in to it right away...like training a puppy Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749That too....l you only gotta get caught once......
Reply:Well, there went all them saved "attaboys".......SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:Sorry to break it to you Slob, but your "attaboys" have long since expired.  Like "brownie points", they have a very short shelf life.  Next time redeem them immediately. Invertec V300 Pro
Reply:LOL...just told my wife what you did and SHE wants to come and kick your butt!250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Well, I may be occupying that 16 square foot shack in the back yard for a while but my welder works like it should so it was "worth it"..... She didn't catch me in the act but walked in shortly after I'd rinsed the parts off to cool them down in the sink. The coffee can, (still steaming) was in the right side of the double sink bowl, and I was drying parts in the left side. Rapid deduction on her part led to the conclusion that coffee can full of greasy, nasty water with "floaties" had been on the stove and I'd lied again and returned to my former antics. I swear it'd be easier to explain another woman's lipstick on my shirt collar than working on stuff in the warmth of the house.I feel I've committed an international crime with people from a neighboring country wanting to kick my backside.......Thanks,Last edited by Slob; 01-01-2015 at 04:58 PM.SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:Originally Posted by SlobI feel I've committed an international crime with people from a neighboring country wanting to kick my backside.......
Reply:This thread makes me glad for the wife I have. As long as I don't damage her cooking utensils and clean up my mess there is no problems. My wife even let me have my own man cave in our house. Matter of fact she even has her own work room for her craft projects  while I have mine to repair what ever I choose. Plus I have my shop (single car detached garage). Day before yesterday I brought in my welder to finish the mods I am doing to it and she did misunderstand me thinking that I was going to weld in the house LOL. I said no I am redoing the power cable and adding the circuit breaker to it but no NOT welding in the house. I laughed and said I might maybe be crazy but definitely NOT stupid.HF 90 Amp Flux Core Customized.
Reply:That's classic Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveMy girlfriend would just laugh I routinely use the kitchen table whenever I'm doing something semi-clean and I don't feel like warming up the shop.Just get them broke in to it right away...like training a puppy
Reply:I guess i'm lucky. I built a motorcycle in a second floor apartment over a winter. Like Johnny Cash said ,one piece at a time lol. My girlfriend never even questioned anything. Not like she had a choice anyway haha. I can't complain about anything with her. She likes the fact i'm constructive.  I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:I feel I've committed an international crime with people from a neighboring country wanting to kick my backside.......Thanks,[/QUOTE]LOL...don't worry, she can't kick very high!250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Girlfriend  wife.OrGirlfriend != wife.Or Just wait, get her the ring, and see if she remains so compliant.Hobart Beta-Mig 2511972 Miller AEAD-200LEMiller 250 TwinNorthern Ind. Hybrid 200Longevity Stick 140Longevity Migweld 200SThermal Arc Pak 3XR
Reply:Originally Posted by geezerbillGirlfriend  wife.OrGirlfriend != wife.Or Just wait, get her the ring, and see if she remains so compliant.
Reply:Originally Posted by geezerbillGirlfriend  wife.OrGirlfriend != wife.Or Just wait, get her the ring, and see if she remains so compliant.
Reply:Life is good.Hobart Beta-Mig 2511972 Miller AEAD-200LEMiller 250 TwinNorthern Ind. Hybrid 200Longevity Stick 140Longevity Migweld 200SThermal Arc Pak 3XR
Reply:I've been married long enough that my wife figures I don't need killing.  She'll just let me rot away and enjoy the moment.  After 36 years, she deserves it."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeIt's been 23yrs together. I think she gets it lol. I aint changing, not happening and she don't really care. Oh and I met her at a Raceway Park at the fall nationals and she has a 67GT Dart, and big boobs so
Reply:32 years Slob, and my boss lady is fond of telling people that if she had killed me when she wanted to , she would be out now !     Ain't love grand.....To ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth. This was the ancient law of youth. Old times are past, old days are done, but the law runs true oh little son.Winpower 180 DCSA-200 redfaceXMT-304
Reply:I heat my grease gun in the oven when the temps are low outside.  Actually kinda smells nice.  She doesn't complain, no other way to do it."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/Originally Posted by farmersammI heat my grease gun in the oven when the temps are low outside.  Actually kinda smells nice.  She doesn't complain, no other way to do it.
Reply:Just remember,it's better to beg for forgivness than ask for permission!And she;s kept ya this long,either you LIKE BACON or you're WRONG!!!! "There are three kinds of men.The ones that learn by readin'.The few who learn by observation.The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves"-Will Rogers
Reply:Oh man, you best hope she doesn't read this... Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveMy girlfriend would just laugh I routinely use the kitchen table whenever I'm doing something semi-clean and I don't feel like warming up the shop.Just get them broke in to it right away...like training a puppy
Reply:Originally Posted by dellwasOh man, you best hope she doesn't read this...
Reply:my significant other learned very early on that things like this tend to pay the bills so its best to just deal with it.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:Well, I showed my wife a couple of youtube videos of air arcing and told her I was going to practice that on the kitchen table. Her reaction was short in forthcoming with a simple statement of I wouldn't survive the night.....Maybe I've reached her limits???SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:She needs a Australian kiss Slob.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Maybe that'd make her more reasonable and see things my way?SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:One time I had a motorcycle fender and headlight bucket in the oven so that I could bake the fresh paint.My wife wasn't supposed to be home for hours.When she came walking in the door and looked in the oven, she wasn't amused.  When I said, "we're having headlights and fenders for lunch", she really wasn't amused.   No sense of humor, that woman.
Reply:Originally Posted by small_e_900One time I had a motorcycle fender and headlight bucket in the oven so that I could bake the fresh paint.My wife wasn't supposed to be home for hours.When she came walking in the door and looked in the oven, she wasn't amused.  When I said, "we're having headlights and fenders for lunch", she really wasn't amused.   No sense of humor, that woman.
Reply:A long time ago in days of old My mother came home and found a cylinder head from a 427 chev . in the oven baking the paint, but I had the exhaust fan on!!!
Reply:Originally Posted by small_e_900One time I had a motorcycle fender and headlight bucket in the oven so that I could bake the fresh paint.My wife wasn't supposed to be home for hours.When she came walking in the door and looked in the oven, she wasn't amused.  When I said, "we're having headlights and fenders for lunch", she really wasn't amused.   No sense of humor, that woman.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveHaha!!!!Just told my girlfriend - I asked her if she'd laugh - she said "I don't know if I'd laugh, but I sure wouldn't be surprised to find them in there."
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeAfter all the crap you been through just make sure its not a bun in the oven.
Reply:If you can catch a bbq some one is tossing - one with a side burnerthe burner is usually ok and ideal for that sort of thing.
Reply:Originally Posted by 12345678910If you can catch a bbq some one is tossing - one with a side burnerthe burner is usually ok and ideal for that sort of thing.
Reply:Originally Posted by SlobYes it would be. I have a 36KBTU burner from an old water heater which works very well also; but I forgot where I've stuck it in the shop. I've used that burner for a forge, stress reliever/normalizer (with oxygen supply), and solder station and it works quite well. There is about 92KBTU per gallon of propane so a 20 pound tank of the fuel will run about 8.66 hours constant on high burn rate.
Reply:Reminds me of the joke about the hill billy that goes to the store to buy his wife an electric blanket.   The salesman starts talking about wattages and BTU's until the hill billy is just completely confused.   Finally the hill billy interrupts him and  says..."look, all I know is that I need a blanket with enough BTU's to heat a BUTT the size of a TUB.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveUsing 20lb tanks it's easier to use 21,600 btu/lb in the calculations.I come up with 12 hours burn time theoretical for a 36,000 btu burner.
Reply:Originally Posted by HT2-4956Reminds me of the joke about the hill billy that goes to the store to buy his wife an electric blanket.   The salesman starts talking about wattages and BTU's until the hill billy is just completely confused.   Finally the hill billy interrupts him and  says..."look, all I know is that I need a blanket with enough BTU's to heat a BUTT the size of a TUB.
Reply:Originally Posted by SlobIt may be of the different locale but LP here weighs 5.92# per gallon and averages ~92K per gallon. I'm certain there are different blends and formulations and I don't know how accurate my burner is, but it won't run 10 hours on a full tank.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveGood point on the different blends, ours runs 4.24 lb/gallon at 60 deg F.
Reply:That's interesting... I never thought about the different energy contents of the fuels resulting in different power outputs on a generator, but it makes sense. We're into the minus 30's this morning so the only fuel coming out of a tank would be gasoline.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Originally Posted by whtbaronThat's interesting... I never thought about the different energy contents of the fuels resulting in different power outputs on a generator, but it makes sense. We're into the minus 30's this morning so the only fuel coming out of a tank would be gasoline.
Reply:Minus 25F here this morning, the restaurants and other high users use a vaporizer to keep up at low temps.Some of the pre-heaters for the incoming air venting the grill area can be 500,000 btu and more.Propane boils and makes vapor down to -40 but around -25 to -30 it doesn't make vapor very fast.Some areas use buried propane tanks since the ground is warmer than the air.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.