70 year old south bend workshop lathe

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i needed to start setting her up. looked around(first picture) and said thats the best place. moved a lot of junk. , moved table,modified table, leveled table. decided before i put the lathe on it it was the perfect place to display all the stuff that came with the lathe, mainly so i could post it here and ask"what is some of this stuff?" looking at these tools, i think i did real well. there is a sense of having invaded this mans private space. see fotoes this post and next.my next act(after lunch) is get all that stuff off the table and get the lathe and motor in position. Attached Images
Reply:more fotos..that critter in the last foto-i remember like a year ago someone on here was asking about some device called a dumore..i believe this electricmotored belt driven grinder attaches to the compound and is used to grind valves..now to move all this stuff and get the lathe and motor cleaned up and on the table.. Attached Images
Reply:You did very well.For an explanation of most of the stuff you have there, and how it's used...........Do a search "How to Use a Lathe American Machine Tools"You got tool posts, boring bar holders, dogs, centers, some extra change gears or drivetrain gears, inside bore telescoping gauges (t thingys), and other goodiesI know what you mean about other people's things.  I always feel like I'm picking over somebodys bones when I go to a farm auction."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammYou did very well.For an explanation of most of the stuff you have there, and how it's used...........Do a search "How to Use a Lathe American Machine Tools"
Reply:In the 1970's I ordered a Dunmore for a school shop.  List price was over 450.00.  They are very useful.  The table should be as rigid as possible.  Make yourself some sort of tray under the bed of the lathe so that you can clean out chips and they don't get everywhere.  The only other thing I can say is " You bandit!!"
Reply:Yea, I agree, you did well, and have a nice arrangement of tooling to go with your machine.  As lotechman said, the table needs to be as rigid as absolutely possible, and to set it up to run true you are going to need a good machinist level to level the lathe and shim it to remove any bed twist that you may have.I'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......
Reply:i  bought this from  the real user's grandson , who is not real knowledgeable about it. when i went to look at it, and when i went to pick it up, there was an older fella there who had been t he real users friend. he himself had been a machinist here for 36 years for ibm.he said the dumore was worth $700. he told me the owner, , who was an aviator long ago, had invented a quick release for gun scopes from aluminum on this lathe and the brown and sharp mill and grinder(see other post"free milling machine"), patetnted it and did quite well.   i myself will be pleased if i gain enough proficiency to make better shelves and shiiithooks, which is primarily what i do,
Reply:Originally Posted by Hammack_WeldingYea, I agree, you did well, and have a nice arrangement of tooling to go with your machine.  As lotechman said, the table needs to be as rigid as absolutely possible, and to set it up to run true you are going to need a good machinist level to level the lathe and shim it to remove any bed twist that you may have.
Reply:Weldbead, I know exactly what you mean.  I have been working on one of those types of lathes myself this weekend.  I bought this southbend about 4 years ago from a machinist friend who had it in his machine shop. Size wise it kind of fell in between two other lathes he had that he used primarily, and it just never got used much.  He called me one day and told me if I wanted it bring him a grand and come get it.  That he never used it much and was tired of walking around it, lol   I ran it awhile in the shop, and it was Jam up so we loaded it on the trailer and came back home with it, but I never have had a chance to clean it up and move it into the shop with all the other stuff I've had going on.  I finally got it moved in last week while things were slow, and been spending the weekend cleaning it up and putting a fresh coat of paint on it. Here's a couple pics of mine while I was working on painting it. Hope I can finish the paint tomorrow afternoon and get it set up this week since I have a job coming in that I will need both lathes running.  Keep the pics coming.  ~Jackson  I'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......
Reply:Weldbead, in the first picture of the tooling, the one with the old cheese boxes, a couple of the large round tools in the back row appear to be for holding  dies in the tailstock when threading things held in the headstock. There is an adjustable boring head on the right of them.What other tooling came with the Dumore? Does it have any spindles for internal work?If you have some wall space, the kind of lockers used in school locker rooms, (which are sometimes gotten rid of by districts when they cut back on PE programs) make good storage for this type of equipment.BTW, if you ever get to talk to that older friend again, please ask him, for me, what style or brand of QD scope mount the P.Owner invented. I've always been interested in that stuff; the first mechanical things I ever made were replacement or modification parts for firearms, when I was about 12, using a friend's father's lathe and various hand tools.
Reply:Originally Posted by Hammack_WeldingYea, I agree, you did well, and have a nice arrangement of tooling to go with your machine.  As lotechman said, the table needs to be as rigid as absolutely possible, and to set it up to run true you are going to need a good machinist level to level the lathe and shim it to remove any bed twist that you may have.
Reply:Originally Posted by Oldiron2Weldbead, in the first picture of the tooling, the one with the old cheese boxes, a couple of the large round tools in the back row appear to be for holding  dies in the tailstock when threading things held in the headstock. There is an adjustable boring head on the right of them.What other tooling came with the Dumore? Does it have any spindles for internal work?BTW, if you ever get to talk to that older friend again, please ask him, for me, what style or brand of QD scope mount the P.Owner invented. I've always been interested in that stuff; the first mechanical things I ever made were replacement or modification parts for firearms, when I was about 12, using a friend's father's lathe and various hand tools.
Reply:I think a steel bench would better suit the machine.  I know..........more money"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:had been thinkin of a steel bench..thislathe is probably no more than 400 pounds..more fotos.. Attached Images
Reply:The device just above the boring bar & holder is a carriage stop, with rotating head so you have 6 or 8 different settings; it clamps onto the front 'V' way when in use.
Reply:Here is what you may need to obtain the proper level on your lathe. This is my 8 inch precision level laying across the ways of my South Bend that measures .0005 inches of incline in a distance of 10 inches. Yes, if you breathe heavy on the leve,l the bubble is going to move.These things are a bit pricey though at $135 a copy.......... pg
Reply:yep, i looked a little and am seeing starrets for around that price or so..
Reply:Dammmmm, that's a pretty good score! At first I thought you were getting the freshly painted unit.....I'm thinkin', "WTF, that ain't goin' on the bench without a fight!!"   The slitting saw arbor, in the bottom of the first pic, and in the cheese box in the last pic, looks to be a #9 Brown&Sharpe taper. I doubt very much that you can use it with your lathe,but it will fit my '50s vintage Index mill. If you want to get rid of it, PM me.The Dumore tool post grinder is a nice bit of stuff. Be sure to cover the bed ways (and everything else for that matter) when you use it, grinding dust is tough on castings!!Southbend has a great book, "How to run a lathe", that is good to have near at hand.Copies show up on Ebay frequently.I have a copy of the Atlas operating manual for 10" and 12" lathes that came with a parts lathe I bought....pretty much universal info. Free if you pay the postage.Rex
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Reply:Originally Posted by piniongearHere is what you may need to obtain the proper level on your lathe. This is my 8 inch precision level laying across the ways of my South Bend that measures .0005 inches of incline in a distance of 10 inches. Yes, if you breathe heavy on the leve,l the bubble is going to move.These things are a bit pricey though at $135 a copy.......... pg
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Reply:Wow!! I like that shop!! It's as neat as mine. Just snapped my Columbian vise time to get a new Wilton $$$$$$ or maybe a used one..Last edited by specter; 07-22-2009 at 02:43 PM.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.&  2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.