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Do AD hoods allow even for the slightest arc burn?

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发表于 2021-8-31 22:38:41 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
A friend who went to welding school years ago, and still welds, but is a machinist most of the time. He said he heard that there is not any AD hood that could completely protect you 100% from arc burn, and that over time, your eyes WOULD be damaged.  Is there any truth to this statement. What AD hood would be on top of the list for eye safety?Thank You very much,Raf
Reply:An AD hood allows for the possibility of arc burn, but only because light may be reflected from the back-side of the lens, or if the lens isn't installed in the hood right (light leaking around it), or is broken (physically cracked).If light isn't being reflected from behind your head, then no, you will not get an arc burn through the lens.
Reply:Originally Posted by rlitmanAn AD hood allows for the possibility of arc burn, but only because light may be reflected from the back-side of the lens, or if the lens isn't installed in the hood right (light leaking around it), or is broken (physically cracked).If light isn't being reflected from behind your head, then no, you will not get an arc burn through the lens.
Reply:Originally Posted by rafHow do you know that it is working correctly, for a newbie like me?
Reply:Or your eyes itch in the evenings.You don't have much to worry about if you buy a quality ad lens.Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:If you weld a lot it is inevitable that you will get some manner of arc flash somewhere along the way.  Just take precautions when ever possible
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPOne way to tell if it’s not working correctly. When you wake up around midnight, and it feels like someone poured hot sand in your eyes.
Reply:Originally Posted by rafA friend who went to welding school years ago, and still welds, but is a machinist most of the time. He said he heard that there is not any AD hood that could completely protect you 100% from arc burn, and that over time, your eyes WOULD be damaged.  Is there any truth to this statement. What AD hood would be on top of the list for eye safety?Thank You very much,Raf
Reply:Originally Posted by rafThank you,How do you know that it is working correctly, for a newbie like me?Raf
Reply:Eye problems and welding seem to go hand in hand. That is with what I would imagine have been with fixed shade usage as AD use is just becoming common. I think it would be hard to say if eye issues would change with new studies done on AD users with over 20 years use from the welder.
Reply:I had a early autodark helmet.  Said the brand name was DQF (Which I think is Jackson).  After a long day under the hood, my eyes felt fatigued. I have no such issues with modern helmets (Miller, Optrel, Jackson).All helmets protect 100% against UV even when not dark.  That UV essentially gives you sun burn on the eye.Con Fuse!Miller Dynasty 350Millermatic 350P-Spoolmatic 30AMiller Multimatic 200Hypertherm PowerMax 1000G3Miller Maxstar 200DX
Reply:Always used a passive filter until I bought one of the first gen Lincoln AD lids.  At least I think it was one of the newer designs back then.It was totally solar powered, always on, no switch.I finally wore it out (the cartridge started to act weird, and not darken properly).  So I bought a Jackson True Sight W-60.It has a switch to turn it on, and sometimes I forget to turn it on, and get whamoed.  My eyes hurt for the rest of the day.  I can't look at bright light, and I can't focus properly.SO DON'T TELL ME THAT THE PASSIVE COMPONENT OF AN AD HOOD PROTECTS YOUR EYES.  IT DOES NOT.  And that's after the millisecond when I discover I forgot to turn the stupid thing on.Might be some passive UV protection, etc............but it DOES not protect your eyes from damage when it's not working properly, or turned on.I'm told that the 1/25,000 second darken time is safe.  But I can remember when they told us that Agent Orange was safe.  I don't buy into the corporate bull****.  They will sell you anything they can make a profit on.Do you have a choice?  Yes.  Use a passive shade.Welding will cause eye damage over time.  Do you have a choice?  Yes.  Don't weld.Don't even ask about the fumes, that's another can of worms."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:I've hit the arc before turning on the helmet more than once as well, but I must say I have flashed myself (no mirror involved here) a lot more times with the fixed shade than the AD. I have about 5 helmets kicking around, and my favorite these days is the Hobart AD. Don't cheap out on the helmet, get a good one, and get a good lens. As mentioned if they weren't any good, the big companies wouldn't sell them for fear of getting sued. As for the fumes...well there you are on your own.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:when I bought mine there was a specification on how fast it would respond, this site suggest this for specifications, If you weld for a living, and will use the helmet daily, get the best and get one that is adjustable from at least shade 9-12, response time of 1/20,000 second or less, has a delay and sensitivity feature, and is lightweight (around 20 ounces or less) and has 3 or 4 arc sensors.http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/...g-helmets.html
Reply:Thank You to everyone who was good enough to share their opinion and experience. I can see how easy it is to forget to put the hood down with a passive system and also how youbcould forget to turn on a AD HOOD OR CHECK THE BATTERIES. As far as fumes, I try and weld outside with the wind to my back or if inside, wear a half respirator and have an exhaust system 12 -16 " away from the arc. It is a hobby and alot of fun for me, but without good health, everything is harder. Raf
Reply:Originally Posted by rafA friend who went to welding school years ago, and still welds, but is a machinist most of the time. He said he heard that there is not any AD hood that could completely protect you 100% from arc burn, and that over time, your eyes WOULD be damaged.  Is there any truth to this statement. What AD hood would be on top of the list for eye safety?Thank You very much,Raf
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