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So I finally got a driveway gate job, the gate is 18' 5-5/16" wide, a double gate: Of course I wanted to post all these pictures while the project was goin on, so I could get advice, but you know how that is... No time, gotta meet the deadlines yadda yadda.... So it starts with a drawing done by the architect, giving me pretty good measurements to go off of. I had to buy a HF tubing roller, and swag off road dies for the 1-1/2"x3" top rail. Then I had to modify the roller to accept 3" tubing, I know I know the HF roller is not meant for heavy stuff like 1-1/2"x3" and the thinnest I could get it was 11 gauge.... It was a bear to bend. Here's some pics of the roller modification:Here's the roller with the tubing ready to roll... I should have realized that the HF roller wasn't gonna bend that heavy tubing, but I'd never done any rolling at all before so it was a learning experience for me. I started to roll the tubing and quickly realized that I was fast approaching the max output of the roller, even with its extended arms. Then using this formula I determined the radius of the tubing : R=H/2 +W*W/8*HI figured out the tightest radius I could get with the roller is a 32' radius, and I needed an 18' radius.... http://www.philswelding.com
Reply:Then this happened: the bearings busted out on the rollerSo I knew thats as much curve as I was gonna get, so I had to cut into it with my portaband to make the curve tighter until I reached the desired radiusThen of course I had to weld and grind each joint, I TIG welded them to avoid too much weldament build-up then I grinded and sanded each joint. The pieces after that were slightly warped, which is what I want to avoid but I fixed it after I welded the frame together by slicing into it then clamping it down to the table. Here's a pic of the top rails welded and ground: http://www.philswelding.com
Reply:It took me almost a week to get the two top rails bent, welded and ground. So then I used the roller to make the radius of second rail, which was 1"x1-1/2" 14 GA, which went much nicer,Then I assembled the frames:I use a level to make sure they were not warped at allAdding the pickets, with the collars:At this point you can start to see the gate come together and get a good idea of how it'll look when it's done...... I have is pretty exciting for me. http://www.philswelding.com
Reply:MetalMan23Good for giving it a go.Aside from the addition power required - traction is an issue.Mid to upper limit rolling mandates that all three rollers are synchronically powered.Once you have power and drive [traction], the roller form isthe next consideration/up-grade.OpusLast edited by OPUS FERRO; 11-21-2013 at 09:06 PM.
Reply:Then I drilled holes, then sent them out to get galvanized.... Then I bought a specific primer for going over galvanized steel, then a special urethane alkyd enamel paint for the finish coat and this is how they looked after I painted them :And then the install, I use badass gate hinges, which are rated for 2000lbs each, and are fully adjustable, They're done!!! I was extremely happy with the resultThe company I work with installs the gate openers systems for the customers which is pretty cool:Then charge $8000 for that service............. So all in all, I think it went pretty good and came out great, and I can't wait for the next one, everyone was happy... Including me when I got my check.! So what do you guys think? http://www.philswelding.com
Reply:Metal man outstanding job. It looks like some of my piss ant antics. If you not equipped to do something easily, adapt and overcome. Job well done.Miller BobcatHarris cutting outfitMiller spectrum 625 plasmaVariety of shopmade tools
Reply:Beautiful! How long did they take to fabricate? Something like that would take me a year and a day.Where abouts are you located? That looks like a Fairfield county home if I've ever seen one.Miller Dynasty 300 DXMiller CST280Miller Maxstar 150 STH
Reply:Originally Posted by jw3Metal man outstanding job. It looks like some of my piss ant antics. If you not equipped to do something easily, adapt and overcome. Job well done.
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Reply:Looks GREAT.Heavy duty for sure.I have been looking for finials like those for a while and can't find them here.To expensive to have them shipped here.Miller 252Miller Bobcat 225Lincoln MigPak 1801959 Hyster forkliftHarris OA torch
Reply:Verry nice gate. I built one similar about two years ago. I also had trouble with the same tubing roller and decided next time I'd take it to another shop to have it rolled. With something like this patience is key. Nice job!Miller trailblazer301gLincoln sa200Miller251Miller spectrum 625Victor oxy-acc2002 Chevy duramax 3500 dually 4x4
Reply:MetalMan23Was the galvanization: hot-dipped or electroplated?And, who designed the gate? Opus
Reply:I see the cheater bar on the ratchet but got to be a big fellow to turn the wheel!Great looking gate.DIY CNC Plasma table USB BOB Price THCHypertherm 65Everlast PowerTig 255 EXTMiler 180 Mig13" metal latheMill/ DrillECT, ECT,
Reply:Really a fine looking job; especially for your first outing. Attention to detail, level. Just a really great job.
Reply:Beautiful work!
Reply:I think you did an incredible job. Very sexy gate. I have two questions for you now that you are completed. But they may sound critical and I don't want it to come across as me criticizing. I just want to know for reference. Let me know if I should ask in a PM or in this thread, or not at all. Thanks,JokerLincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Awesome job, I'm impressed.....Mike
Reply:Originally Posted by OPUS FERROMetalMan23Was the galvanization: hot-dipped or electroplated?And, who designed the gate? Opus
Reply:Beautiful bud, you nailed it! I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Excellent job!
Reply:Ok, thanks.So you said it took about a week to bend the two top rails. Did you do this to keep more money in your pocket or to learn something the hard way, or just to prove you could do it? I do stuff the hard way a lot because I have more time than money, but if a shop could have bent those in a day, wouldn't it be cheaper than your own labor cost for a week?Or did you want to buy the bender and needed a reason? LolSecond question: in the final pictures it looks like you can see your cut and grind marks on the vertical sides of the top tubes in the finish. Is that an optical illusion in the picture or did the texture at the grind marks differ enough from the virgin material to show through the coatings? I have never had any work galvanized and would like to know if there is special prep to do?If it is just the picture and not the actual texture, what do you think caused that to show in the picture?ThanksLincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Fantastic piece ! That's the kind of work I love.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
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Reply:Joker 11:Originally the arch wasn't near as high, and it would have been possible with the roller, after they changed it to be higher, I thought I would still try the roller. Honestly it was mostly ignorance on my part not realizing that the roller wouldn't roll heavy tubing like that, and once I started, I had to finish it. Once I realized the tubing roller wouldn't go far enough then I had to resort to the cutting the kerfs, I wasn't gonna do that originally. Galvanizing, causes the welds to raise even after you grind then down... So after I grinder and sanded, then galvanized, I had to sand down the welds again. To answer your question, yes you can see the ripples from the weld joints, especially because I used gloss paint. But it's only visible when you're looking at an angle. http://www.philswelding.com
Reply:Really nice job. I once notched a cap rail. I smile every time I pass it, remembering a time when I was just trying to get through my second job ever. First job was curved too. Did you have to smooth the Galv? Did you get any distortion?Very Nice!!
Reply:I showed my wife this
Reply:Post and she along with myself were very impressed. Now she wants me to build a gate very similar for the entrance to the farm. I'm in trouble. Where do you get the small parts for the accents and the hinges ?? Outstanding job. May want to pm you about how to get started. Richey
Reply:I like the classic design - nicely done Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by tackitThose are beautiful. I would imagine the owners will be asked by their friends for your name.
Reply:A true work of art. Great look. I have to read about the build, I was blown away by the pictures.Dave ReberWadsworth Ohio
Reply:nice job.if you made the roller extensions even longer you might not have any issues bending that tube.torque = distance x forceso if you double the distance you are in effect getting twice as much force. Now this would not work for tight radius's, but your radius is very gradual, maybe around 15 feet, so it should work fine.
Reply:forgot to add.....what kind of paint do you use on galvanized metal, all the spray can stuff I've used flakes off too easily
Reply:Hey man, way to get the job done. Gates look great, and you made some money. Kudos.-AaronJet 17.5" Drill Press1942 South Bend 16x84 Lathe1980s Miller 320A / BP --- 2013 Power Mig 2562012 Jet 7x12 Horizontal BandsawVictor O/A Setup
Reply:Originally Posted by AluminumWeldernice job.if you made the roller extensions even longer you might not have any issues bending that tube.torque = distance x forceso if you double the distance you are in effect getting twice as much force. Now this would not work for tight radius's, but your radius is very gradual, maybe around 15 feet, so it should work fine.
Reply:Nice work -- I am thinking of getting on of those benders as well -- I think I will modify it and get a winch to do the turning as I plan to do allot of work Cheers, Patrick
Reply:Came out great! Nice work Metal Man. I missed this the first time around, thanks for bringing it back up Spool Gun.
Reply:awesome job dude!If the conversation isnt money, then Ill see you later.
Reply:Very nice gates! Kudos to you on such a nice design for your first driveway gate. I know from experience how much work doing those top rails is! Getting the two sides to match is not easy either. I started out with a home made roller to bend the top rails on a similar set of gates, but it was way too hard and time consuming. I ended up using a twelve ton hydraulic pipe bender just putting a small bend every six inches. It was WAY easier! And I was happy with the results.
Reply:So this is your first? Danged sure isn't gonna be your last... Nice, man, very nice.(Retired) Professional firefighter, amateur everything else I try to do...Oh yeah: Go Big Red! (You know: one of the 12 members of the Big 10 cuz we left the 10 members of the Big 12...)
Reply:Were you required to galvanize by the architect? Why not just have it blasted and powder coated?
Reply:Originally Posted by strube1369So this is your first? Danged sure isn't gonna be your last... Nice, man, very nice.
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Reply:Could you tell me more about "badass adjustable hinges" you used?
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