Metal rose / flower project?

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Hey guys, was curious about something.I seem to remember seeing / hearing something about 'beginner' project for new welders that involved making a rose / flower, and was wondering if anyone could point in the direction of any kind of writeup / instructions on this kind of thing.Thanks in advance for any help!
Reply:flaagan check out the link below.http://www.weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=4659I have some patten's somewhere for rose's I will try and find and copy them for you.Simonhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~abba/index.html
Reply:Here is the only link I could find. ( http://johndilbeck.com/metalsmithing...rosespage.html )  There was another one that I followed to make these, but it looks like its not out there anymore.  Anyway, here is the pattern I made from those plans and a photo of the rose I made with it.Let me know if you want more details.- Butch Attached Images
Reply:Awesome, thanks for the info so far guys!Any more / extra info you can provide is more than appreciated; granted this is a rather artistic and creativity based project, insight and previous experiences are something that always comes in handy!
Reply:Here are some quick instructions. This is a fun project, but has very little welding. (3 tacks?) 1. Cut the rosepattern out of some sheetmetal and keep track of the piece numbers. (See pevious post) 2. Drill a 1/4" hole in the center of each one.3. Hammer them up with a ball peen hammer, forming little cups out of them. Now is also a good time to clean them up, grind off any sharp edges, etc. Use whatever scrap is left to cut out a leaf shape, too.4. Get a length (18"?) of 1/4" rod and hammer and bend it into a natural looking stem.5. Slide piece #1 about 1" down the end of your stem and tack it with a weld.6. Slide all the other pieces on top of each other in order and tack the last one down. 7. With a pair of pliers and the hammer, start bending and folding the petals up to form the rose shape. Be creative and loose while watching the flower come alive. (Yeah, its and artsy thing, but the gals love em!)8. Don't forget to weld the leaf to the stem.I've been painting them with stuff like metallic flake paint and I've been thinking about crome, too.  I've found that even though I use the same pattern to cut the shapes out, no 2 roses ever come out the same. All the little differences that happen with the cutting, hammering and bending end up making a unique rose every time.  Good luck!- Butch
Reply:I made a rose recently using copper sheet for the petals -- it was my first attempt and I went with copper since it was easier to bend and twist -- only problem was I gave it away before taking a pic!!!I used a similar pattern as posted.  Worked great -- basically 4-5 four leaf clovers of varied sizes.Here's a pic of a sunflower I made recently.  Wife laid claim so that one will be around awhile.  Nice to have a wife who prefers sunflowers to roses   The center is just a piece of round plate as is the base. The base was "copper plated" after all was assembled.  The seeds just blobs of wire -- petals and leaves out of thin sheet copper.  It stands about 18" tall.Bob B Attached Images
Reply:That is a very nice sunflower Bob...if my wife sees it she'll want one!  Lincoln AC-225
Reply:Just curious, what gauge metal were you using for the flowers? (I'm assuming it was something thin enough to be cut with set of handheld (non air-powered) sheers?)Hopefully I'll be starting on this in the next week or two. Kind of short on time at the moment (two jobs, and the '70 Barracuda I'm restoring for my dad is getting finished up at the body shop), but I *really* want to get this made up and off to the girl I want to make it for as soon as possible!
Reply:Very interesting ideas. I like the concept of the rose lasting forever vs. buying them at the store and they only last a few days. Who says " diamonds are forever" ?  John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:Originally Posted by flaaganJust curious, what gauge metal were you using for the flowers? (I'm assuming it was something thin enough to be cut with set of handheld (non air-powered) sheers?)
Reply:So I'm new at this welding thing, my teacher recommended this site- I'm a senior in high school and I need to find or come up with some blueprints and procedures. I want to make a metal flower as well, but it's a lily. I have some of my blueprints done, but I figured I could use a hand. I want to frame my flower in a box as well which is just going to be 1' x 1' not too too big, but big enough. Then the inside would hold my metal flower.
Reply:Many folks will go to a craft store and buy a silk flower of the type they want to make. Then they  take it apart carefully and use the pieces as patterns.  You could use the parts to make your blueprint patterns.Be sure to pay attention to how it was all put together -- I'd buy two flowers, one for the pattern and one to help me remember how the darn thing was put together!Good luck and have fun.Bob
Reply:look on a website for david robertson, an ontario blacksmith with tons of instructional videos..
Reply:Thanks so much for your help, I've actually made my blueprints, and now I just need to get them approved tomorrow. I think it looks good right now, hopefully it won't be too hard. I think I am going to use sheet metal for the flower and for my "frame" I will probably be using angle iron unless anyone else has a better idea? Someone said using stainless steel would be easiest, but I don't really know cost differences, I'm trying to do something a little cheap because of money problems.
Reply:If You Have A Local TSC Store Drop By And Check They Usualy Carry Narrow Flatstock That Would Make A Frame
Reply:Originally Posted by flaaganHey guys, was curious about something.I seem to remember seeing / hearing something about 'beginner' project for new welders that involved making a rose / flower, and was wondering if anyone could point in the direction of any kind of writeup / instructions on this kind of thing.Thanks in advance for any help!
Reply:An artsy fartsy thread ... HOT DAMM!!!!!!http://www.facebook.com/LockhartMetalArthttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Grumpy...44306259043484
Reply:Originally Posted by grumpycricketAn artsy fartsy thread ... HOT DAMM!!!!!!
Reply:Nice looking rose Mike! Did it turn black from sucking up the J.D.?http://www.facebook.com/LockhartMetalArthttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Grumpy...44306259043484
Reply:http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...hlight=flowers
Reply:Here's one I made. Attached Images
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Reply:I did one of those a while back. Made one for the wife then the daughter had to have one. They seem to like stuff like that for some reason.
Reply:Looking at the dates, I'm amazed at how many times this thread has been brought back to life! But what the heck, I'll add my flower pics! Made this frame for my wife for Valentines day this year:John 3:16(2) Miller Pheonix 456(2) Millermertic 252Dynasty 210DXHobart 210MVPDoringer D350 SA Cold SawScotchman 350LT Cold SawWebb 10x50 MillWebb 15x40 LatheGeka Bendicrop Ironworker
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Reply:You can blame me for resurrecting this thread. I subscribed to it so I can find it again later.I have 10 teen-age boys from the church coming to my shop on Saturday to make roses for Mother's Day and this is the best thread because it has the pattern. I've used it before and it works great.Burt _____________________Miller Syncrowave 250Millermatic 211Miller 375 Plasma Cutter Hobart Handler 12010FtDrillBit.com
Reply:DANG  I better get busy only got another day till moms day  wifey would love this
Reply:I had 11 young men at my shop on Saturday, making roses for their Mothers for Mother's Day. They had a good day and did a good job making the roses. I'm the old guy in case you couldn't figure it out.Burt _____________________Miller Syncrowave 250Millermatic 211Miller 375 Plasma Cutter Hobart Handler 12010FtDrillBit.com
Reply:I would like to delete my comment poking fun about making flowers but of course can't due to the controlling restrictions of this website. I have made lots of bouquets of steel flowers over the years and given them to people. I would draw out individual flowers and greens in 3/16 steel and cut them out with o/a. Then carve a pipe to make a vase. I never got the chance to give a bouquet to my mother. She past away when I was young.
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