Water Well Drilling Rig Plans - Looking for some

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Good morning all.  I'm dealing with a dry stock tank on my place and after spending too much time over the holidays surfing the web, got the crazy idea of building my own water well drilling rig.  Problem is, when I find a link for plans it's either in Russian or the website has expired, or it's a book that sells for $40-50 and has terrible reviews.  Anyway, I thought I'd throw the idea out to everyone here and see if anyone has or knows where to get any plans for building your own simple, small drilling rig.  Im not looking for something that I need a dozer and an 18 wheeler to haul around with.  Just a simple little rig I can operate with a small gas motor (I have several good working lawnmower and go-cart motors around) or something I can hook up to the PTO of a diesel tractor.  Just something of that nature.  If anyone knows of anything, shoot it my way.  Thanks for the help in advance.
Reply:http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...well+rig+drillTry this??....
Reply:Thanks ArcBurnt, but that drillingfab.com web address mentioned on that thread is one of the ones that is no good any more.  That web address is "up for sale".
Reply:Sorry, my bad..  I just checked that link also, hope someone posts an updated link, as I am also interested.
Reply:I don't know if this will help but first off look up your states  Department of water resource, whatever it is called and look up some local well logs to see what you will be drilling thru, if you got basalt with clay and gravel layers no small homebuilt rig will do the work  if your drilling any kind of rock it isn't going to work. you will not be able to run the weight collars or have the  hydraulic torque on the drill rod takes without rotating the rig around itself. There is another thread going on here that is a small rig that will do shallow work that was dealing with mast issues you can get some ideas, also go to the Deep Rock web site look at howe some of those are builtDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:I appreciate the thoughts idacal and yes, I've done some significant research on the whole idea.  Fact is, for something like a stock tank well, just about everyone has water below them somewhere between the surface and 100'.  May not be the water you'd want running through your faucets in your house, but for a stock tank it'd be fine.  I'm just trying to figure out how to get down to it.  There are tons of youtube videos of it being done with small rigs and yes, I've paid close attention to the type of area it looks like they're drilling in.  If I could locate a set of plans, I'd modify to fit my situation.  I just need a good idea to get me going.
Reply:Around post #57 in that thread there's a link to a current pdf that works.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by irish fixitAround post #57 in that thread there's a link to a current pdf that works.
Reply:I was looking at those plans I'm not seeing how you put down pressure on the bit besides the weight of the pipe if you use a hydraulic cylinder to raise and lower the drill head you can do it with a few cable sheaves and a decent stroke cylinderDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Do you know what depth you have to go to find water?
Reply:he mentioned less than a 100'. Out here that would be about 4200 dollars with 6" steel pipe to the bottom. I run 17.00 per foot over materials. to pay wages, rig payments, licensing and bonding, and profit if anything is left.  some places would be as low as 2000.00 for just a seal and hole in the ground. by the time you build that rig, deal with a home owners drilling permit and the state well seal inspector,buy the materials, plant the drill string a couple of times, screw up the seal, and have to abandon and start over.Or don't get a permit and  have a neighbor report you, if he only wants one well probably be better off just hiring some oneDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Originally Posted by idacalhe mentioned less than a 100'. Out here that would be about 4200 dollars with 6" steel pipe to the bottom. I run 17.00 per foot over materials. to pay wages, rig payments, licensing and bonding, and profit if anything is left.  some places would be as low as 2000.00 for just a seal and hole in the ground. by the time you build that rig, deal with a home owners drilling permit and the state well seal inspector,buy the materials, plant the drill string a couple of times, screw up the seal, and have to abandon and start over.Or don't get a permit and  have a neighbor report you, if he only wants one well probably be better off just hiring some one
Reply:knew I was forgetting something! thats just the hole in the ground then you got the pump and electricalDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Here in Nevada its a very serious offense to drill without a drilling license and you must own water rights.
Reply:Im licensed in oregon and idaho and have been working on nevada but its a tough verbal test administered by drillers who don't want you in there area (don't blame them) you have to know your stuff, not difficult, and have verbal skills and no stage fright, which is difficult. in Oregon you can get a home owners drilling permit. In Idaho the only way you can drill your own well is with hand equipment, no power equipment at all, if there is an engine on site you must be a licensed well driller, don't know how far the legality of that has  fought though.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:It sounds like you want to make a cable tool rig I have an old Hillman Air plane drill I was given and I am currently rebuilding they are relatively simple and all you need are 2 winches and an eccentric pulley with about a 18 inch offset so that the tool can move up and down. I can send pictures of the components if you would like.
Reply:Sure, I'd love to see your rig.  I'm not trying to build an Eiffel Tower sized contraption, just something I can go down and hit a little water with for a windmill well.  Thank you for the offer and response.  Look forward to seeing what you have.
Reply:Where's the location ? Study up on sand point wells.Five or six part series/Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:Somervell county, Texas.  It's pretty rocky up here.