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I recently heard from a local Lincoln Dealer, that the Lincoln welders sold at Home Depot are in fact Century welders in a Lincoln case. I have noticed that the welders sold at Home Depot do not have any model #'s on them such as "SP 135." Just curious if anybody else has heard this.
Reply:that´s bs...that´s just a Lincoln SP something that is arranged for some common companies to sell them. at least that´s what I´ve been told by many guys out there...My Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3 4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:I haven't looked at the ones at HD but I thought someone had said they have standard heat settings like A,B,C,&D?DewayneDixieland WeldingMM350PLincoln 100Some torchesOther misc. tools
Reply:The difference is in the 135, or the 3200 from HD, it has a 4 or 5 position amp output switch instead of an infinitely adjustable one. That switch costs a good bit less, and it is about the only difference I have seen.
Reply:Lincoln has a line of retail products that were designed to go up against the imports and sold in home centers, etc. They're Lincoln products and you get Lincoln support (3-year warranty on some items). The Weld-Pak 3200HD compares to the SP-135T and not the SP-135 Plus. The WeldpPak 175 HD and a Pro-Mig 175 compare to the SP-175T. If you open them up you'll see Lincoln parts, etc.http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...owse=114|2690|Century was mentioned, and while Lincoln isn't putting Century stuff in their cases a guy I know bought a Century welder from Harbor Freight a few years ago for $100 or so -- he uses the heck out of it and is quite happy with it. I was just starting my search for a welder and had never heard of Century so I did a search and found that Sears is selling the same unit he has on sale for $319 from $399.http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=YesGoing purely by the pictures, it appears that some of the Craftsman models are relabeled Century units. And Weldmark is relabeling both Lincoln and Miller.Warning: I have been wrong before!New small workshop, small MIG, oxyacetylene set with a DHC-2000 that I'm learning to use and really like. Life is good!Typos are there for those that look for them. I try to do something for everybody.
Reply:Hi 45willy !There were a few previous postings that discussed this - but hard to find by title. You can find them with a search for MIG-Pak, etc. I am not so certain about the various Lincoln 115 volt model/packages of the SP-135. However, the 230 volt model/packages of the PS-175T are identical.Anyway, I took the liberty of copying from those previous posts.Re: Lincoln 175RC-Racer WeldingWeb Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2005Location: Dutchess County, NYPosts: 41 Re: Lincoln 175 --------------------------------------------------------------------------Big muddy,I also have the Pro Mig 175. It is the SP175T ( tapped ) version. Lincoln provides retail packaging for Home Depot, Lowes etc. ===================Anyone have a Lincoln 175t?? 10-02-2006, 08:48 PM Robo48 WeldingWeb Apprentice Join Date: Oct 2006Posts: 33 Anyone have a Lincoln 175t?? --------------------------------------------------------------------------However, the 175 amp Lincoln machines are now mass consummer items; you can buy em at Home Depot, etc.e.g. In my home town (Ottawa), you can buy a Lincoln SP-175 on special at BOC welding distributor for $900 Canadian. However, a few weeks back, you could buy it on super-sale as a MigPak 15 from Canadian Tire for $550 - less the gas regulator and tank hose.===================Re: Converting Stick Welder from AC to Full Wave DC 09-14-2006, 03:40 PM Rick V WeldingWeb Journeyman Join Date: Jan 2006Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CanadaPosts: 94 Re: Converting Stick Welder from AC to Full Wave DC --------------------------------------------------------------------------Quote:Originally Posted by Rick VAwright - "Rick V, it would be interesting to know if the SP-175T is identical inside the case to the MIG-PAK 15, especially if they also use 16 diodes in their rectifier. "Yes - tell ya what. I'll go to BOC and ask to see the insides of that SP-175T. Now I'm curious. I'll report back! Reference: MIG Pak 15, MIG-Pak 15, MIG-Pak-15, MIG Pak-15, MIG PAK 15, MIG-PAK 15, MIG-PAK-15Hi, I just returned from the welding supplier, having looked carefully at the innards of a Lincoln SP-175T.Is the Lincoln SP-175T the same as a Lincoln MIG-PAK 15?The answer - Absolutely Identical In Every Detail! (Except the name plate on the front.)Same fan housing, rectifier bank (yes, the same 16 diodes on the same configuration heat sink), same transformer, choke, power capacitor, circuit board, circuit breaker, gas solenoid, off/on switch, power-selector switch and rheostat wire feed adjuster. They don't come anymore identical!There it is - Final Answer? Yes, that is my final answer -The Lincoln SP-175T is absolutely identical to the Lincoln MIG-PAK 15.Rick V===================I hope that helps,Rick V
Reply:Thanks for the input. After posting the thread, I sent the question to Lincoln and got a reply back this morning. Lincoln stated that Home Depot Lincoln's are in fact Lincoln's, and not Century's in a Lincoln case. So I guess the Lincoln salesman is feeding me a line. Thanks again for the info, if anybody has anything different let me know.
Reply:Originally Posted by 45willyThanks for the input. After posting the thread, I sent the question to Lincoln and got a reply back this morning. Lincoln stated that Home Depot Lincoln's are in fact Lincoln's, and not Century's in a Lincoln case. So I guess the Lincoln salesman is feeding me a line. Thanks again for the info, if anybody has anything different let me know.
Reply:Originally Posted by gnm109Home Depot or Lowes are good places to get the odd roll of welding wire also. The prices aren't bad and they have OEM Lincoln supplies.
Reply:Originally Posted by VisorblueStopped off at Home Depot and they had the welder I have on display so I started looking for accessories, tips, etc. The tool guy walks up and asks if he can help me. I pointed and told him that I have that welder and wanted to look for some accessories. He tells me that the 3200-HD unit is more versatile. I say, Thats nice, but I already have this one. He replies, We dont sell that one. Hmm. Okay...its on display because...? I say thats fine but I have one and am looking for accessories. He says, Ive worked here for 12 years and Ive never seen that one before. I have no idea why its on display. This one here is... I interrupt him and tell him Im doing just fine, and Ill find him if I need help. I found what I wanted after he walked away. Sheesh.
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Reply:Here in Canada their is a difference from the mig pack series and the SP series. The migpack 10 - 15 are the same rating as the SP130T and SP170T but the SP series and more durable and will last longer if use more commercailly. This is the information that the lincoln dealer pasted on and they even had both models apart for customer conparision. Their is a 200 dollar difference in price here.Miller DVI2Lincoln Precision Tig 225Thermodynamics Cutmaster 38Everything else needed.
Reply:Originally Posted by jamlitHere in Canada their is a difference from the mig pack series and the SP series. The migpack 10 - 15 are the same rating as the SP130T and SP170T but the SP series and more durable and will last longer if use more commercailly. This is the information that the lincoln dealer pasted on and they even had both models apart for customer conparision. Their is a 200 dollar difference in price here.
Reply:almost everything sold at HD and lowes is a somewhat inferior grade of the same brand name. the power tools are made special with little corners cut here and there-plastic bearing instead of metal etc. even plumbing parts, a part from HD from the same manufacturer with the same model number will weigh less than one from a commercial plumbing retailer. that's how their able to sell so much cheaper.
Reply:Originally Posted by rusty ripplealmost everything sold at HD and lowes is a somewhat inferior grade of the same brand name. ...that's how their able to sell so much cheaper.
Reply:I asked lincoln about this. They said my dealer was right. Their are two listed welders but one was commercial grade the other residental grade. Same rating on both but one a little more heavy duty for longer life and continous use. Not sure about everyone else but I am sure I have seen this before on other products.Miller DVI2Lincoln Precision Tig 225Thermodynamics Cutmaster 38Everything else needed.
Reply:Originally Posted by jamlitI asked lincoln about this. They said my dealer was right. Their are two listed welders but one was commercial grade the other residental grade. Same rating on both but one a little more heavy duty for longer life and continous use. Not sure about everyone else but I am sure I have seen this before on other products.
Reply:Originally Posted by VisorblueThat's interesting as I spoke with Lincoln this morning trying to understand why all of the 110v welders from 100-140 amp all have the same 20% at 90amp and 18-19.5 volt duty cycle. The tech I spoke with mentioned that the HD's (Weld Pak 100 and up, not the Weld Pak, MIG Pak, Handy MIG, etc.) were the same machine as the SP100-SP135 equivalents (some you have to add the gas kit to) and if you compare the parts in the parts manuals they're the same with the same parts numbers.
Reply:Originally Posted by jamlitOK Visorablue, as you quoted you have wrong be for, so have I but I think we are saying the same thing now. Sorry if I sound off as I worked all night and got up early. I was referring ti the MIGPAK vs SP series. So this means the weld pak could be the same. They don't carry the weld paks where I live. So I think we are both right.
Reply:Originally Posted by 45willyI recently heard from a local Lincoln Dealer, that the Lincoln welders sold at Home Depot are in fact Century welders in a Lincoln case. I have noticed that the welders sold at Home Depot do not have any model #'s on them such as "SP 135." Just curious if anybody else has heard this.
Reply:Originally Posted by LyrikzDoes anyone know if you can buy a spool gun to weld aluminum with one of the home depot Lincoln welders???Will an attachment from the welding stores Lincoln work on the home depot lincoln welder?First post here and am i making ANY sense?
Reply:I don't believe that you can get a Lincoln spool gun for the smaller welders up to the 175's. The 180's have a spool gun available, however.Miller Millermatic 252Miller Syncrowave 200Liincoln AC-DC 225Victor O-A Set
Reply:Originally Posted by gnm109I don't believe that you can get a Lincoln spool gun for the smaller welders up to the 175's. The 180's have a spool gun available, however.
Reply:I have the weld pak 100, and I love it.***************************************Lincoln AC225 stick welderLincoln HD100 WeldPak flux core wire feed welderThree of the cheapest grinders money can buy
Reply:Lincoln doesn't list a spool gun for the 135 and 175 series machines, however. I never heard of a 140 series. I learn something new every day.I'm taking a time out. Last edited by gnm109; 01-31-2007 at 09:05 PM.Miller Millermatic 252Miller Syncrowave 200Liincoln AC-DC 225Victor O-A SetOriginally Posted by gnm109Lincoln doesn't list a spool gun for the 135 and 175 series machines, however. I never heard of a 140 series.
Reply:My Dad's wife worked at a division of Lincoln Canada before she retired.All the HD/Lowes/Canadian Tire Mig Pak/HD3200 and whatnot are identical except for labelling. As mentioned, the parts are interchangeable. Lincoln is not dumb enough to stock parts for many variations of the same product. It doesn't make economic sense.They are labelled differently for exactly one reason. To stop price matching. Period.They may be some good deals coming as the big box stores will need to move out what they have to make way for the new Pro Mig series.I doubt we'll see the Power Migs in the big box stores. The LWS's having been complaining they don't have unique units to sell and are getting undercut by the box stores. I think the Power Mig line introduction is Lincolns solution to that problem.It does bother me that my LWS (all three of them) have told the same lies about the big box units being inferior. It doesn't help their reputation.Visor, are you getting the "bells and whistles" itch? IMO, unless you really think you need you need variable control (I admit it *might* be handy at times) and an easy to mount spoolgun (which first reports indicate it's cheesey) I can't see any compelling reason for a Power Mig upgrade.Now, having that said, I'd be the first to get a 140/180 Power mig or HH140 /HTP 140 mig if my money tree suddenly sprouted.Until then, my little Century is 16 years old and welds as good as I need, and it's seen some rough use when I was learning with it. It's going to be my gas/light qauge rig and if/when I buy a Hobart/PowerMig/HTP it will be my workhorse.Good luck and happy choices.Craftsman 230a Buzz-box, Lincoln 140T & 180T, Century K2789, PUROX W202 O/A14" cheapo chop saw that cuts straight and square!A toolbox of the cheapest Chinese tools money can buy"Real" tools all old reliable Husky/Craftsman/Proto stuff
Reply:Originally Posted by wallythackerVisor, are you getting the "bells and whistles" itch? IMO, unless you really think you need you need variable control (I admit it *might* be handy at times) and an easy to mount spoolgun (which first reports indicate it's cheesey) I can't see any compelling reason for a Power Mig upgrade.Now, having that said, I'd be the first to get a 140/180 Power mig or HH140 /HTP 140 mig if my money tree suddenly sprouted. |
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