Hay Spear Repair

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A farmer down the road from me asked if my son and I could fix his hay spear.....He had already welded on it before and it had broken again. We did the best we know how and sent it back to him...time will tell. It was good practice.6010 root pass and cover pass and everything else is 7018This is what he brought to usWe cleaned up the old weld and ground it out to a vee all the way aroundThen we put in a root pass (hot) and cover pass of 6010This is after several passes of 7018More 7018We added a piece of 2"x2"x1/4"tubing as a sleeve, then some "gussets", all done with 7018.This is the finished piece. It may not be done the way that others would have done it but we did what we could do to the best of our knowledge.It is a shame that supposedly grown men cannot even type on a public forum with out including cuss words.  They do not have the common courtesy to control their tongue or fingers.
Reply:I don't know how others do it... but for sure it is going to hold this time. Good job!
Reply:That looks like a pretty good fix.   I like the way you took the time to clean up the edges of that gusset and round the point off so that it's a little more user friendly to work around.  Nice craftsmanship there.
Reply:Looks good
Reply:Looks to be one of those skinny forged hay spears.  Hope it holds.  I've never welded on one.Preheat, 7018, maintain interpass heat (whatever is called for), slow cooling by degrees...............................dunno, seriously.  Not real sure about the forged stuff (big shrug)"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:My concern would be annealing, or causing brittle HAZ.  Again, not real sure"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Thanks to all for the comments..  Originally Posted by farmersammLooks to be one of those skinny forged hay spears.  Hope it holds.  I've never welded on one.Preheat, 7018, maintain interpass heat (whatever is called for), slow cooling by degrees...............................dunno, seriously.  Not real sure about the forged stuff (big shrug)
Reply:Good job looks like it will hold to me
Reply:Excellent job!  Great choice of 6010/7018 and cool-down between the welds.  Nice. "Hey I didn't come to look and learn, I came to turn and burn.... If I can't light up, I'm gonna light out!"-JodyIdealarc 250 "Fatman"MM 252MM 211 "Little boy" Victor Torches
Reply:you can buy these pretty cheap. What type is it ? Here's some for $50.00. http://www.eezs.com/product.php?Cate...Category_Id=40
Reply:i see you got a sample of all the weld food groups here.  bevel, sleeve, butt, fillet and gusset.  nice work.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1you can buy these pretty cheap. What type is it ? Here's some for $50.00. http://www.eezs.com/product.php?Cate...Category_Id=40
Reply:I don't know exactly exactly what kind of metal bale spears are made of, but they will bend about 3 inches then snap off. I am a farmer we have several off them, not being negative but adding gussets will tear the bale apart. The spear is designed with a tapper to allow the bale to slide on and off with the least resistance. I welded one last year, I told the guy it wouldn't work. I donated my time and materials at $25 when a new one is $55.
Reply:Originally Posted by Goat DriverWhy buy ...when you can weld on it.............some folks just don't get it. If you just went and bought one....my son would not get any welding/fabricating practice and eventually he would be like 90% +/- of the kids today....he would think everything just came from the "store". I refuse to reach children that warped mind-set of society.Weld more!!!
Reply:That's a real good looking job!
Reply:Originally Posted by KsnyderI don't know exactly exactly what kind of metal bale spears are made of, but they will bend about 3 inches then snap off. I am a farmer we have several off them, not being negative but adding gussets will tear the bale apart. The spear is designed with a tapper to allow the bale to slide on and off with the least resistance. I welded one last year, I told the guy it wouldn't work. I donated my time and materials at $25 when a new one is $55.
Reply:Glad it's a 3 point hitch bale spear and not on a loader. Only a short fall .