The beginning of a cabinet

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Today I put together the base to a cabinet I have had on my mind for a week or so...........Apparently 3X3 - 1/8" wall is a bit too thin to run 1/8" 7018 on.......... I forgot that I had to buy thinner material because the 1/4" wall stuff was too expensive for my funds yesterday......So I had to resort to my silly little MIG welder to do the job........ which..... for some reason..... I'm not very comfortable using...........Oh.... and apparently my steel supplier can't cut a straight line to save their life...... I only buy drop...... and use my Harbor Freight bandsaw to cut straight lines to clean up their cuts......I'll post progress pics at some point.... but for now...... .......a video for all to get a chuckle from...........[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE5gMr-g-RY[/ame]Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Looks good to me. I don't know why your not comfortable with mig. Looks like a good weld. (much better that some I have seen)Can't wait to see the finished project. Keep up the good work I like following your threads.Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:Looking good. What is the cabinet for? 3 x 3 x 1/8 is signifiant tubing for a cabinet, 1/4" would be "car dolley" strong. No sense in adding more weight and cost than needed.
Reply:Thanks......... I guess the comfort level is due to not knowing if I'm penetrating...... This machine is a 110 machine and I typically only use it for tacks........ I had it in my head to use 7018 and when it blew a hole it screwed with my head all day......I'm overbuilding the cabinet just for the heck of it....... My Home Depot Black and Deckers are plenty strong........  But I want to be able to hang elephants off this thing........Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:You could run 3/32" 7018 on there OK.  It's my go-to rod for most fabrication like that (I too prefer stick to MIG) The 100-160 or so amps that 1/8" needs is just hot for 11ga material.You didn't build that.'85 Miller AEAD-200LE
Reply:Lookin' good man.-AaronJet 17.5" Drill Press1942 South Bend 16x84 Lathe1980s Miller 320A / BP --- 2013 Power Mig 2562012 Jet 7x12 Horizontal BandsawVictor O/A Setup
Reply:Yo FEX great job!!!!!  Where do you buy your elephants? Your monthly peanut bill must be costly. Oh and i'm sorry I ever gave you a hard time for listening to journey. I take it back!   I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:that would of been great tig pratice.Miller Pro 300 SS w/ cat Miller Bobcat 250Miller Diversion 165 Miller 211Miller Xtreme 375Miller 12vsMiller Dynasty 200 DX Miller Passport Plus w/ Spool GunMiller 30a spoolmaticLincoln AC225 Buzz Box VictorMathey Dearman - H&M
Reply:Who did the filming ? I got trouble posting a picture let alone trying a video. You did good !
Reply:I think I posted the uprights video somewhere...... I seem to post too many threads about the same subject....... I'll just use this one for this build...... instead of making a myriad of post about the same thing.....Today I made progress..... I got the upper cross members cut and welded in. I was able to use scrap sheet to patch together the deck for the cabinet.... not welded in yet... but made flat with clamps......A few pics to today's progress..... plus one of Ava getting dirty and having fun..... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Those SP125's aren't bad at all on .125" tubing, especially for a project like that. Like anickdote said, why not 3/32" rods if you prefer stick?How on earth did your little girl get black hands in a shop that clean? you could eat off that floorThermal Arc Fabricator 2101970 Lincoln RedfaceMiller 150 STLStill need a Syncrowave and a plasma and a milling machine and a lathe and a bigger shop and a....
Reply:She learned the awesomeness of HRS with the oily stuff Westbrook Metals uses to cut.... and I only buy drop from them......I mostly have 1/8th rod, both 6010 5P+ and 7018 rod..... it's all I have practiced at school and all I have in the garage.....At school I practiced smaller rod and realized I wasn't fast enough with the whip and pause with the smaller rod....... I prefer stick because that's what I'm learning to use in school.... but 1/8th mostly.......The deck on the cabinet is 3/16th.... the structure is 1/8th...... I'm taking some 6013 1/16th rod that I grabbed from dad's garage to school on Monday... I will ask Tim (the HMFIC) to show me how to do what I have to deal with.... on that rod.... I love stick.... but only know so much...... Originally Posted by Canoe2fishThose SP125's aren't bad at all on .125" tubing, especially for a project like that. Like anickdote said, why not 3/32" rods if you prefer stick?How on earth did your little girl get black hands in a shop that clean? you could eat off that floor
Reply:Man I wish I had the space you do. My 2 car gerage is effectively a 1car work space. My CNC take up too much room.....Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:I would trust your MIG way more than 1/16 6013.Lincoln 175HD
Reply:Originally Posted by slotardI would trust your MIG way more than 1/16 6013.
Reply:The weight of that cab will be an issue when it comes time to move to a new home, not a trailer out there that'll handle it. I suggest welding a tongue to that for your trailer hitch so you can tow it to your new shop! She's a monster, the cabinet, not your daughter. Nice work, you're fortunate your neighbours don't complain about your grinding,etc. Over here I can't seem to get 5 minutes in without somebody yelping, regardless of how much I bribe them. Seeing as how it's a rollaround, are you going to put a heavy top for work surface? How about a reciever tube for acoutrements like vise, bench grinder etc? How are you going to finish it once it's all done, paint, clearcoat or natural ferrous oxide? Been enjoying your threads, keep it coming!! When a welder tells you to "stick it", what do they really mean?"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Reply:My planning for the top is to put a hinged top on it and use the 2 inch depth as a storage area, but be able to use the top as a work surface. It's 39" to the top, so it's a tad high, but will work well for drill presses, etc.My plan it so paint the whole structure in Rhino Lining black spray paint  Lowes sells it for $8 per rattle can.Then, I will use diamond plate aluminum as the sides and door insets. The whole thing will be Black on White. I enjoy combining steel with aluminum in most of my projects.I'm thinking of putting drawers on the inside on the right 20 inches. Not sure on that yet. I'm still developing the final look, but have it mostly figured out.Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Looks good man,... I liked the jamz too.Miller Bobcat 250Miller Multimatic 200 Miller & 3M PPEHobart electrodesDeWaltz toolsPT standsVictor MD torchRadnor HD  torch
Reply:If you haven't already welded down the bottom deck, maybe take the plate off the top of the sq. tube and add some tabs/stringers on the side of the tube to allow the plate to sit level with the top surface of the tube. Sure, it may only gain ya' an iota of work space, but if you use the bottom section as cabinets it will allow you to slide in heavier objects without snubbing their toes or skinning your knuckles. Otherwise, looks great!As far as combining aluminum and steel on projects...I'm draining the resources of my local scrap yard for aluminum road signs. So far I've been able to convince myself that a life of crime and getting caught some night on the side of the road with a stocking mask, guilty look, road sign and Crescent wrench just is not the recipe for dignified old age...so far. The $10 eBay w/free shipping metal cutting Harbor Fright D.O.A. saw I bought for the blade and than found from a quick test that the plug was bad works great for the road signs...terrible mess though and the house keeps turning up aluminum dandruff weeks afterwards.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Roy I like that idea........ And it gave me a secondary thought on how to capture more space......Use your idea of cutting the deck to fit flush with the structure, on the inside....... But.......picture this......... Make them hinged and then weld in a sub-deck on the bottom of the frame...... And..... Voila...... Two 3" deep tubs of added space........I LIKE it!!!Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:That's a great idea, until you need something and have to unload the cabinet to get to it.On that note though, I was cleaning up my shop today, and said to myself, fexal is on the right path, I gotta build some cabinets. I needs more storage. Then I cursed at you for making more non paying projects for me. LolLast edited by ★ NoBigDeal Fab ★; 10-14-2012 at 10:20 PM.Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:Yeah I would have to use it only for the random stuff I never seem to use..... Like the extra chop saw blades...... And the pieces that turn my horizontal bandsaw into a vertical one......... Or all the extra tool box shelving pads.......owners manuals for tools........Of course..... As soon as I build it and put that crap in there..... I'll need one of those items and never ever be able to find them.......... Ever....... Again....Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by FexalOf course..... As soon as I build it and put that crap in there..... I'll need one of those items and never ever be able to find them.......... Ever....... Again....
Reply:Substantial table, nice work Fexal!Bruce The Welding ChefLincoln Weld-Pack 3200 NORWELD StickStanford Hill Farm
Reply:Roy.... I took your advise, which was the same as my neighbors advise..... and welded down the deck inside each section........I used my SP 125 instead of using the 6013......... Had to turn off the fan and sweated my arse off..... but am happy nonetheless with the result.....it has been slow going since I'm now under the gun to get these nameplates done by Christmas.... I have very little time to work on the crap that I want to work on......A couple pics of today's progress....... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/I understand the speed issues...hitting a slowdown myself on my lathe cabinet. The painting has been an issue for me. I'm a total newbie when it comes to paint other than using a brush. Still, I had a friend come over to help me raise the top up off the floor onto 2 X 4 bocks so I can slice off a section for the bench. A 10 ft. section of 30" wide 3/8" plate was too much for me to handle by myself. I'll get some pictures up for you whenever/if I can remember to tote the camera down to the shop with me.Work looks good. You are going to flap disk the welds down on the deck so you aren't bumping up against them when you slide something heavy in down there?Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Yep, I plan to flap down the welds so it is nice and smooth........ Ran out of time today........Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Looking good.  If you ever have a natural disaster, you can hide inside your table!-AaronJet 17.5" Drill Press1942 South Bend 16x84 Lathe1980s Miller 320A / BP --- 2013 Power Mig 2562012 Jet 7x12 Horizontal BandsawVictor O/A Setup
Reply:Double Post......Last edited by Fexal; 11-13-2012 at 10:28 PM.Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:I got a tad more done on the cabinet this last weekend in between two other name plate jobs....I got some new casters from Tractor Supply because the old rickity ones I was using were causing me fits trying to move it around......... $80 in casters later, I"m much happier.... even though I wanted Red to match my table.... I had to settle for Blue since no one within 50 miles had red in stock.....I also laid the bottom of what will become the top tray in the cabinet....... I then put the rest of the horse stall mat in there, which is what I bought that mat for in the first place....... and for grins placed a few tools in there to get a general idea of how I will want it laid out when I get the lid in place......The clearance is about exactly what I was hoping for.... given the design.....A few pics from this weekend slow progress........ Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Looking good man.  I love how you keep your shop clean.-AaronJet 17.5" Drill Press1942 South Bend 16x84 Lathe1980s Miller 320A / BP --- 2013 Power Mig 2562012 Jet 7x12 Horizontal BandsawVictor O/A Setup
Reply:Me too, clean shop, cool new table, what next? Nice job Fexal............Bruce The Welding ChefLincoln Weld-Pack 3200 NORWELD StickStanford Hill Farm
Reply:I made a little more headway on the cabinet today....... I had just enough to make one door for the front.........The hard part wasn't getting the miters done, or the welding on the door itself...... but getting the hinges in the right spot..... on the door and the cabinet.......This was the first time I have ever done two things:1) Welded while laying on my side on the ground and operating the pedal with a knee....2) The above, in both the upside down and vertical up positions in TIG......So now..... I have one door installed and it works just fine.........Pics...... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:More Pics........ Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Are you going to skin that door? I've been using aluminum road signs...cheap at the scrap yard. Otherwise, I'm guessing you'll have a problem with sag without the square tubing of the doors braced either with a skin or structural brace. Hope to have my lathe bench done in a few days...messed up on the cabinet doors when I was painting and I hate warming the shop up just to do a simple paint job. I'll get you pictures when I finish up.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:The whole cabinet will be skinned in Aluminum Tread Brite..........Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by FexalThe whole cabinet will be skinned in Aluminum Tread Brite..........
Reply:I got just a tad more work done on the cabinet this weekend........Installed one side of Tread Brite Aluminum......... I'm not ready for the other sides yet....... but this at least gives me an idea of what it will look like when it's all done...... shiny.....PICS.... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Nice going Fexal! After all was said and done, I would have been money and time ahead if I had purchased diamond late. BTW, I silicon caulked the gap between the panels and frame,as well as underneath, but we have a heck of a lot of coal and other dust here.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:That's a pretty cool project! Nice job
Reply:I really like the spray paint storage, good job!
Reply:The spray can storage is brilliant.
Reply:I don't know if I asked this in a different thread, but for your welding table (not cabinet), how did you attach the legs to the top?
Reply:Looking very nice there Fexal. A very nice cabinet indeed. You are doing what I used to do on a pretty regular basis. Built for a portable CNC router. I built quite a few of them. Gets a wood top across the whole thing. Cutout in front is for a chair to go under, so the user can sit at it and use the computer attached to the machine. Welded in bosses for attaching an air filter system for the computer cabinet. Biggest advice I can offer. Run a nice bead of silicon around your treadplates before you attach them. If you don't, they will rattle like a mofo no matter how much you attach them. It used to drive me crazy before I started doing it.
Reply:Fexal Great work, sent you a pm
Reply:Originally Posted by 84JSDThe spray can storage is brilliant.
Reply:I used some thick 1X1 around the top and welded it the pipe and then tacked the table top to that with 5p+..........
Reply:The top is half inch...... And for I'm currently doing....... No worries on bending or bowing the table........ Here is my build thread from last summer on that table......http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=131811Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Just watched your video, this is one stout table! Your miles ahead of me, but I still plugging away and improving in baby steps! Nice job Fex!  Bruce The Welding ChefLincoln Weld-Pack 3200 NORWELD StickStanford Hill Farm
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