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So a neighbor brought his pop up camper to the house and wanted me to weld the tongue back together. I got it back together and welded up where it had ripped the metal apart and then ran a few beads to either side of it then back on top. Here are a few pictures;Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLincoln 210 MPHarbor Freight Plasma
Reply:Did you prep area before welding? That doesn't look like the original hitch either. Hokey setup. And probably bad previous welds . That's probably why it broke in the first place. Gets out the popcorn and Last edited by soutthpaw; 08-04-2015 at 02:06 PM.Tiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:As in? I wire brushed it to the bare metal. There may have been a few areas of paint overlap but none around the cracked/ torn areaSent from my iPhone using TapatalkLincoln 210 MPHarbor Freight Plasma
Reply:What did you do to guarantee it wont crack again?Regards,RobGreat Basin WeldingInstagramBlue weldersRed weldersMy luscious Table DIY TIG Torch cooler
Reply:A little more info. No previous welds had come apart. The metal just ripped. It looks as though there was too much tongue weight at some point. It was fairly heavy to lift and I don't think it should have beenSent from my iPhone using TapatalkLincoln 210 MPHarbor Freight Plasma
Reply:Originally Posted by Robert HallWhat did you do to guarantee it wont crack again?
Reply:Maybe box it in underneath?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLincoln 210 MPHarbor Freight Plasma
Reply:Most of us are going to be a little tight lipped in the advice department fearing liability. Sorry, but with ambulance chasers advertising on television nowadays, it's what you're going to get.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:What kind of trailer and weight ? I would have seen if this Bulldog coupler would fit.http://www.carid.com/bulldog/a-frame...FQ-maQodcJUCRgAttachment 1178101
Reply:Originally Posted by WyoRoyMost of us are going to be a little tight lipped in the advice department fearing liability. Sorry, but with ambulance chasers advertising on television nowadays, it's what you're going to get.
Reply:Originally Posted by WyoRoyMost of us are going to be a little tight lipped in the advice department fearing liability. Sorry, but with ambulance chasers advertising on television nowadays, it's what you're going to get.
Reply:The coupler you welded on is ment for use on box timing. You should have cleaned everything off down to the "A" frame rails and installed a new "A" frame coupler. (As BD1 shows)I would recommend your friend not use the trailer until a proper repair is made. This job might have been a little outside of your skill level. Dan D.Last edited by DanD78; 08-04-2015 at 02:43 PM.Manipulator Of Metal
Reply:If the owner cant afford a new hitch made to fit the tongue, at least weld in a gusset from the bottom of the tongue rail up to the hitch. MikeOl' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Looks like the coupler is rated at 3500 , whats the trailer rating ?? I dislike those shltty couplers. Kind of POLISH looking to me.
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1What kind of trailer and weight ? I would have seen if this Bulldog coupler would fit.http://www.carid.com/bulldog/a-frame...FQ-maQodcJUCRgAttachment 1178101
Reply:all you have to do is say that you saw a trailer once and out comes the tar and feathers, admit using a HF 110 machine and its the concentration camp for life. If the owner thinks the repair is good then it's up to him use it. booneO makes a point has anyone ever seen or heard of a poster on the internet being held liable for there post right or wrong. If this is the case folks like Mr.Tig and others would be in hot water.......clifton
Reply:Originally Posted by DanD78The coupler you welded on is ment for use on box timing. You should have cleaned everything off down to the "A" frame rails and installed a new "A" frame coupler. (As BD1 shows)I would recommend your friend not use the trailer until a proper repair is made. This job might have been a little outside of your skill level. Dan D.
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1Looks like the coupler is rated at 3500 , whats the trailer rating ?? I dislike those shltty couplers. Kind of POLISH looking to me.
Reply:Originally Posted by DanD78The coupler you welded on is ment for use on box timing. You should have cleaned everything off down to the "A" frame rails and installed a new "A" frame coupler. (As BD1 shows)I would recommend your friend not use the trailer until a proper repair is made. This job might have been a little outside of your skill level. Dan D.
Reply:'tis the wrong coupler and welded up as is, will be prone to the same failure in the future. How long? who knows, could last a lifetime but still incorrect.You have an A-Frame there and requires an A-Frame coupler like the one BD1 posted. The Bulldog is a a top notch coupler but probably more than what is needed for the Pop-Up camper.http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trailer_Coupler.aspxEd Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:Thanks for the last couple of replies. I am going to see if I can get him to put the correct coupler on.Lincoln 210 MPHarbor Freight Plasma
Reply:Wrong kind of coupler (tube vs, a-frame). That was my first thought. Though the welds look good, they are subject to stress like a zipper, and on the side walls of the coupler."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Something i noticed you said on your prep you wire brushed it, you should have grinded it and cleaned the coupler too, tho as it was already mentioned isnt the right coupler for the trailer.Century 88amp 110v migCentury 100, 110migPowcon200smThermal Arc 140 migThermal Arc Fabricator 211i
Reply:Originally Posted by dpaschSomething i noticed you said on your prep you wire brushed it, you should have grinded it and cleaned the coupler too, tho as it was already mentioned isnt the right coupler for the trailer.
Reply:Easiest fix to make that coupler right would be to cut a 2 1/2" circle out of 1/4" plate. Then, clamp it up underneath the ball socket and fully weld all the way around. I can guarantee the coupler won't break off after that.Originally Posted by cnichall you have to do is say that you saw a trailer once and out comes the tar and feathers, admit using a HF 110 machine and its the concentration camp for life. If the owner thinks the repair is good then it's up to him use it. booneO makes a point has anyone ever seen or heard of a poster on the internet being held liable for there post right or wrong. If this is the case folks like Mr.Tig and others would be in hot water.......clifton
Reply:All it takes is to get a lawyer to take the case. I think we can all agree, once someone files a law suit against you, youve lost! What are lawyers now, $300.00 to $400.00 per hour?Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:For the record, I have put the nuns, puppies, and small children on alert.
Reply:again does anyone have any knowledge of a poster being held liable or even brought on charges from something on the internet, If this is true the general forum has to be aware of the possibilities. If this is simply a unproven myth, or previously noted anyone in this country can sue anyone. Over the years all of the experts have made comments of, oh well I would have done it this way and this is how I would have done it. Please give us some proof of this doom and gloom.........clifton
Reply:Originally Posted by cnichanyone in this country can sue anyone.
Reply:CEP law suits happen everyday, my question goes to members that say giving advice or stating something on the forum (internet) can make you liable for said advice. please read previous posts on this thread...........clifton
Reply:Highly unlikely that anyone is going to be sued for giving advice on a forum.EVEN lawyers get a break from the law in friendly advice incidents. They're actually more liable once you become a client because they do have responsibility to do a competent job. Now there does exist the real possibility of being sued for welding on something. Ya takes yer chances. And despite all this lawyer hating most have to agree that the lawsuit should be available for those that get crappy work done which ends up causing damage or worse- harm to someone.Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:Cheap enough to replace with a new one as far as I'm concerned. Not really hard to cut out and replace so I would have either convinced him to spend a few dollars or threw a empty beer can at him and walked away if he disagreed. Welding work didn't look bad at all tho, so good job on that at least, but you just gotta think about the big picture of reality before you put your name out there bud.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Originally Posted by cnichCEP law suits happen everyday, my question goes to members that say giving advice or stating something on the forum (internet) can make you liable for said advice. please read previous posts on this thread...........clifton
Reply:One thing you have to understand about our legal system. It is designed by lawyers to benefit other lawyers! Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Originally Posted by Sleepy127Thanks for the info, one day maybe I will be as smart as you but until then maybe I can get help without feeling like I am being cut off at the knees. It's called constructive criticism for a reason, it's meant to help but saying "a little outside of skill level" doesn't do anyone any good. Helpful would have been" this is what you did wrong, this is what you can do to fix it, this is why"Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPThat is a fact in this country! 10 years ago I bought the 5-acres to the south of me. 1 year later the woman to the south of the 5-acres sued me for Adverse Possession. Cost me over $30,000.00 in legal fees. When we got to court, she blew her whole case on her testimony. Being as we live in a no fault state I get $200.00 in expenses, and $200.00 in legal fees!
Reply:Originally Posted by bentThat is why you buy title insurance.
Reply:In his first post, the OP said "...where it had ripped the metal apart...". There was no mention of any welds failing... If some welds failed, he didn't mention them.Whether the tongue was the correct one is another matter.
Reply:Originally Posted by bentThat is why you buy title insurance.
Reply:This is In fact the incorrect hitch for this trailer as already stated. Your hitch here is supposed to be mounted on the end of a square tube trailer tongue. They are usually bolted on.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Most of the older, heavier tent trailers had an A frame tongue that came out and started forming up like it was headed for a traditional 50º coupler but transitioned into some sort of surge brake. Looks like something was torched off the end of that one if you look below the added coupler. No help here as far as the right type of fix. How thick was the material on the added on coupler?"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt |
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