Good Deal? Ring Roller and Scroll Bender

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I am looking for a couple of cheap tools to make rings and scroll work. What do you all think about this auction?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Reply:Looks like I can get these new from Harbor Freight for about the same price as these.
Reply:Not a good deal at all.You could get the following at Harbor Freight:Gear driven Ring Roller = 69.99Scroll Attatchment = 49.99Compact Bender (bench model) = 84.99Total = 163.98 with a 20% off coupon. (Tax not included)The one on e-bay is 159.99 + 34.00 shipping = 193.99.  In addition, you don't get the entire bench compact bender with the one on e-bay.Bad deal dude!You could have done some simple searching and found this information pretty easily.
Reply:Originally Posted by joedirt1966Not a good deal at all.You could get the following at Harbor Freight:Gear driven Ring Roller = 69.99Scroll Attatchment = 49.99Compact Bender (bench model) = 84.99Total = 163.98 with a 20% off coupon. (Tax not included)The one on e-bay is 159.99 + 34.00 shipping = 193.99.  In addition, you don't get the entire bench compact bender with the one on e-bay.Bad deal dude!You could have done some simple searching and found this information pretty easily.