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What do you guys think about building a pallet tool with just my little old Lincoln Weldpak 100? I decided to start building some things out of pallet wood and went down and picked up a whole bunch of pallets. Here's a few examples I've pulled up from around the web:and From this link...http://lumberjocks.com/projects/62026Also this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=v1vfvvxNhcYAnd this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=v1vfvvxNhcYWhich if any of these do you guys think would be the best for me to build with the equipment I'm working with for right now? I know it's a stretch...there is a LOT of torque on the end of one of these tools. I'm hoping to get power (and definitely 240V) to the garage for a real welder in the near future. Thanks!Last edited by Fergus; 12-02-2012 at 10:18 PM.
Reply:A lot will depend on how you design and build it. I built one similar to both in the past for pulling up deck boards. It worked fair, but could have been built a bit heavier for what I needed to do with it.If you look at pict 1 that you posted, the design will give the tool strength, vs simply relying on welds themselves such as if the "forks" were welded to the pipe vs being cut in. Your problem will be the limited penetration power of that small machine. You need to design this so the joints not the welds take all the force and the welds simply hold the pieces in place..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:That's kind of what I was leaning towards as well...thinking that at least there would be a greater number of welds holding the parts together.
Reply:The few times I've tried to pry pallet boards off they usually split due to the spiral nails they use. MikeOl' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Yes, they are tough to pull off. I've had some success using a long breaker bar and a piece of pipe as fulcrum. But using a nail bar, or prybar was next to useless as all the boards would split and crack. Tried using a sawzall to cut the nails too, but that pretty much sucked.
Reply:I think the Lincoln weld pak 100 and "easy mig 125" models should have been thrown in the trash can by lincoln QC peeps years ago. Those machines were just a disservice to the poor folks that were suckered into buying that crap. Some Lincoln execs should be in prison now for selling that junk to Americans! Those two modles really placed Lincoln quality down in the gutter in my opinion. How could they have stooped so low!!!!!!???Lincoln Power Mig 216Lincoln AC/DC-225/125Miller 625 X-Treme PlasmaMiller 211 Forney 95FI-A 301HF 91110Victor Journeyman O/PMilwaukee DaytonMakita Baileigh NRA Life Member
Reply:Well thanks for that. If I had know better at the time (12 years ago), I would have bought something better. It can do only little stuff around the house with no probs...but hey, at least it got me into welding!
Reply:Ive been tearing apart pallets as well and would like to take on a project like this. Generally I just hit the boards from the back with 2lb sledge and they come right out with minimal splitting. Just gotta remember to spread the blows across the length of the boards to keep them from splitting. that said I would love one of these
Reply:Originally Posted by reallifedogIve been tearing apart pallets as well and would like to take on a project like this. Generally I just hit the boards from the back with 2lb sledge and they come right out with minimal splitting. Just gotta remember to spread the blows across the length of the boards to keep them from splitting. that said I would love one of these
Reply:I'd go with the design in picture #1. BUT i'd make the forks and the handle pass all the way through the pipe folcrom. that way you can weld on both sides of the pipe just to secure the pieces there, and the pipe itself, not the weld, is taking the full force of the load. you'll benefit if you can preheat the joints for the forks, that's some seriously thick stock for that little machine.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:Originally Posted by FergusWhat do you guys think about building a pallet tool with just my little old Lincoln Weldpak 100? I decided to start building some things out of pallet wood and went down and picked up a whole bunch of pallets. Here's a few examples I've pulled up from around the web:and From this link...http://lumberjocks.com/projects/62026Also this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=v1vfvvxNhcYAnd this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=v1vfvvxNhcYWhich if any of these do you guys think would be the best for me to build with the equipment I'm working with for right now? I know it's a stretch...there is a LOT of torque on the end of one of these tools. I'm hoping to get power (and definitely 240V) to the garage for a real welder in the near future. Thanks!
Reply:Originally Posted by ThorsHammerI'd go with the design in picture #1. BUT i'd make the forks and the handle pass all the way through the pipe folcrom. that way you can weld on both sides of the pipe just to secure the pieces there, and the pipe itself, not the weld, is taking the full force of the load. you'll benefit if you can preheat the joints for the forks, that's some seriously thick stock for that little machine.
Reply:I made one. I brazed mine together. Stress will be less important than design / position of handle. Mine is 3/8" x 1.5" forks and 125 sched 40 handle. Initially, my handle formed an aprox. 80 degree angle with the forks. I later angled the forks to make them contact the wood evenly. Now I have to lean over further to get it into position, However, the wood pops off at just past 90 degrees. I haven't found the compromise for my back between fork insertion an wood extraction. All my pallets are cut flush at ends, and 90 percent of the time they nail end up going through the wood.Good luck
Reply:Originally Posted by FergusWell thanks for that. If I had know better at the time (12 years ago), I would have bought something better. It can do only little stuff around the house with no probs...but hey, at least it got me into welding!
Reply:It's cool man. I knew what you were getting at. They market those machines to hacks like me!
Reply:Originally Posted by FergusIt's cool man. I knew what you were getting at. They market those machines to hacks like me!
Reply:I want to see the build.....We're waiting..... lolThere are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:So I got a little sidetracked with some other projects...but here's where I'm at so far:Went scrounging right after the last time I posted.Found this old piece of a plow:And this piece of pipe:Cut me down some forks:I know they are beastly. I think its 1/2X1 and that's way over kill. But its' what I found. Figured I could use it for prying other stuff too.Cut the pipe down and got busy with the grinder:It was tricky to get fit up just right. But eventually I did get something good enough for gov't workI dont' have any pics of the handle. It's a solid shaft. I think it's about 1 1/8". Again, stupid heavy. The thing is a tank. I already ground the welds down around the handle. They were...well...the bird ****e was piled up pretty high. I was laughing as I tried to get a puddle going. There is a bit of weld right around the handle/pipe joint. I just tacked the forks on as well.It works *okay*. It does easily pull the boards right off pallets. I took two pallets apart in about 5 mins each. The down side is that since I used a larger diameter pipe (that the forks fit in), the angle of the forks is such that they make contact with only one edge of the board at first. So all that pressure at the front edge of the board usually makes it crack.What I want to do is offset the forks. I want them to be lower than the fulcrum part of the tool. To do that, I've got to redesign this thing. Its kind of hard though, since the current design gives a lot of strength. I was thinking of cutting the middle section loose from the ends of the pipe, putting short cuts in the middle and side pipes so that the ends would "interlock" into the middle, then weld around all the little joints again. Kinda like Linkin Logs. What do you guys think?Last edited by Fergus; 12-15-2012 at 07:25 PM.
Reply:This old thread got dredged up for me by the daughter-in-law. She went out on that maze called Pinterest and got hooked on the topic of re-using pallet wood. I guess there is a ton of ideas, pics and links and this thread was one of the links of how & what. Any way her whole point was for me to make her a pallet breaker. Gave me something fun to do. I figured this thread was old enough that this wouldn't be considered a hi-jack. The base was a little piece of 2" by thick wall tube and a piece of 3" channel split in half to make two pieces of heavy angle. Rounded off all corners. Put a small heal at the back edge to give it a bit of lift and change the angle when it 1st starts the pull. Attached ImagesLast edited by Sandy; 05-21-2014 at 01:24 AM."The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:The handle is a 4 foot piece of small drill tube. It's about and 1 and 3/16ths OD. Thick wall. Maybe 3/16ths wall plus or minus a thou. Durable as heck. Springy as heck. Plenty strong for this. The handle is a little long for me but the extra length is for the gal folks. She was tickled. Now she can tear up pallets make her pallet things. She's always got quite a display going on in her front yard of unique items. Kind of a place locals like to go to see what's new. Attached ImagesLast edited by Sandy; 05-21-2014 at 01:23 AM."The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:Nice Sandy! You know that's funny... I found pictures of my contraption on Pinterest too...and I definitely did not post em.
Reply:Nice, I used a piece of 1/4 plate for mine but it bent so had to cut it to straighten it and put bracing.Best to pry the ends first then the centre last.MM 180
Reply:My son built one for me very similar to the one in your first pic using a Miller Sidekick (110v) and it has taken apart many, many pallets without a hitch. I don't imagine you'll have a problem.
Reply:built one with a Lincoln 140 and has served well for years!! Go for it, and if it breaks, build another!!!!RocketmanRay |
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