Best Lenses For A Pipeliner

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Hey y'all. I'm in the process of procuring some new lenses for my pipeliner hood, and I need some advice. My AD hood is the Jackson Balder BH3, and I love it. It's comfortable, the color comes out as a nice bluish hue, it's all around just a great hood. And for this reason, I'd rather not see it destroyed welding pipe. So I'm breaking out the trusty Fibre-Metal hood. My problem with it is that I cannot stand the vivid green color of the arc. I've been doing some research, and it seems as though a gold glass lens, backed by a blue drop in lens, will be my best option. So the question remains, which one? I was all set to buy the product offerings from Phillips Safety, until I read some not so glowing reviews of their blue lens online. AO is out of the question because, quite simply, I can't afford to drop $300+ on a lens. Surely there must be other quality options out there. I don't like the Ebay offerings because they're bonded, I'd rather have two separate lenses.Thoughts?
Reply:I buy old blue wrapped Lincoln supervisability lenses or run a small EQC auto with variable shade. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLong after the price is forgotten, the quality will remain.Both of my Poppy's 1954 Short Hoods -Third generation to weld with it and teaching a fourthSA 2## - Bought and sold more than I can remember or care to list, 8 in the shop right now
Reply:I bought my aulketro lens with an extreme blue drop in, amazing color.
Reply:I’m fairly new to welding. The color of the puddle means nothing to me. I just want a clear view of whats going on.I really like the ArcOne auto lenses. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:If I'm burning rods I'll use my gold lens, anything else I'm with CEP. I switch alot between mine.
Reply:I'm also with CEP. I think the Arcone lenses are the best value in ADF filters. Excellent clarity at a very excellent price.
Reply:Thanks for the input. However, I suppose I should've specified, I'm not after another AD hood. I just want a passive lens in this one. I heard that the gold lenses provide somewhat of a blue tint as well. I'm going to start with that, and then I'll look into a blue drop in lens if needed.Anybody have an opinion on the gold lenses offered by Phillips Safety?
Reply:Originally Posted by Russ WalkerAnybody have an opinion on the gold lenses offered by Phillips Safety?
Reply:I really like a shade 10 gold lense. After using this I actually prefer my pipeliner over my BH3, seems to be a much clearer view IMO.
Reply:The Wens lens is blue.
Reply:@TimmyTig - I looked at Wenslens, and they're appealing, but I'm not sure I'm ready to drop that kind of cash on a lens that I've never tried before. Definitely on my radar though.@CEP and hicktown - What kind of color does the gold lens by itself provide?
Reply:We had a guy at work bought one and let me try it, I didn't like it. I used the Super Visibility until I switched over to my Speedglas fresh air hood recently.
Reply:@ Russ Walker - "best" is always subjected to the eye of the beholder.  Recommend you try a $20 Gold, fixed-shade, glass (not plastic) in #s 10/11 by Philiips Safety Products.All my Pipeliner lids ever accept for SMAW, MIG, and TIG work."Discovery is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought" - Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Reply:Originally Posted by TimmyTIGWe had a guy at work bought one and let me try it, I didn't like it. I used the Super Visibility until I switched over to my Speedglas fresh air hood recently.
Reply:I like the arc one drop in. Works pretty good. I also like the blue tinted lenses. Everyone's eyes are different so everyone has their preferences.
Reply:Welcome to the forum. What shade are you looking for? There is a vendor on ebay that sells the 1 piece Aulektro in shades 8 through 13.
Reply:I have Aulektro lens in shades 9-12 with the extreme blue drop in....about half the price the "others" that glue them together charge
Reply:1/3 the price of Wens lens Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPI’m fairly new to welding. The color of the puddle means nothing to me. I just want a clear view of whats going on.I really like the ArcOne auto lenses.
Reply:Originally Posted by Russ Walker@CEP and hicktown - What kind of color does the gold lens by itself provide?
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Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Hey Carl, could I possibly talk you into letting me test drive that wens lens?Let me know
Reply:Can I get in on some free lenses?
Reply:one of the guys as work just got a super cheapo Anchor Brand gold lens ... i used it a bit today and really liked it.  most white / clear with just a tiny blue hue.  I think its time i hang up my (3) ADF hoods and go back to the passive lenses.AWS CWI xxxx21711968 SA200  Originally Posted by WelderMike  I hate being bipolar, It's awesome.
Reply:Someone here once suggested the inexpensive Hobart gold #10 lense.  I dropped one into my Pipeliner and haven't looked back.  It's clear and works great.  If I'm running a rod bigger than 1/8, or am welding with higher amps (around 140+)  with 1/8, I simply wear a pair of safety "sun glasses" under the hood in lieu of the clear safety glasses.  Works like a champ and doesn't break the bank.  You can find those lenses at tractor supply for around $7.00.  I'd try that first, because you might like it and it's nothing lost if you don't.A Liberal is someone who lives in a gated community with private security,  but says that a boarder fence won't work and people don't need guns for self protection.I highly recommend the green glass, gold plated lens ($20) from Phillips Safety.   I'd been using the cheaper (around $7) green plastic, gold coated ones (TriMark brand) that the LWS carries but find the Phillips much better and worth the extra $13.   I've let several of my coworkers who use AD hoods try it and so far all of them think it's an improvement.  Phillips is having a 20% off sale thru Oct. 31.   Use code HALLOWEEN20 at check out.
Reply:Originally Posted by HT2-4956I highly recommend the green glass, gold plated lens ($20) from Phillips Safety.   I'd been using the cheaper (around $7) green plastic, gold coated ones (TriMark brand) that the LWS carries but find the Phillips much better and worth the extra $13.   I've let several of my coworkers who use AD hoods try it and so far all of them think it's an improvement.  Phillips is having a 20% off sale thru Oct. 31.   Use code HALLOWEEN20 at check out.
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPYou can have both of them. I went through a phase of buying every lens I could get my hands on, because I couldn’t see. Then the eye Doc, says I need cataract surgery. Now I can see.PM me your address, and I will mail them to you.
Reply:@russ walker It is hard describe, but it is a clarity similar to the balder helmet, to me it looks like you would expect the arc to without a hood on just alot dimmer obviously. Maybe a bit of a gold tint, but I tend to see mostly black (backround as most lenses seem to be) and the redish orange glow, not flash or brightness of the molten metal with a clear image of the arc. The shade 10 is perfect for me, allowing me to clearly see the metal, arc, and weld puddle all clearly with no eye fatigue after a few straight hours of welding.hope that helps, but i'm struggling to accurately describe what has become a "second nature" view for me.Last edited by hicktown; 11-01-2015 at 08:07 PM.
Reply:@KineticI use a shade 12 also.   Have been wanting to try their "Supper Blue" drop in behind one of them to see what difference it makes but dam man, $49 for a piece of blue polycarbonate?   http://www.phillips-safety.com/weldi...d-sfp-wfs.html
Reply:Best $10 you'll ever spend. Somewhat "clear", so much that the smoke is distracting with stick, but great for tig.