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Need some help.  trying to mount a winch to my truck bed.  I've seen those that are mounted via the bed rails but i want something a lil more heavy duty.    I just dont trust the thin sheet metal.  Looking for some ideas to do this. I have no problem cutting into the bed to make modifications for a beefy winch mount.. just need some guidance on best way to weld up a mount.winch is going in a 2007 new body style silverado.
Reply:I would cut through the bed so you can bolt brackets to the frame.
Reply:Why not just have a ¼" plate mounted to the bed floor. I would plate the whole floor to protect the original bed floor anywayLast edited by JSmitty74; 09-06-2014 at 11:07 PM.Home hobbiest:Build all sorts of BBQ pits & smokers (trailer & non)Lincoln 225 Cracker box (antique)O/P torchRedneck tools out the a$$.They get me by!
Reply:Or if it's a ¾ ton or 1 ton, I'd overkill it with ½" plateLast edited by JSmitty74; 09-06-2014 at 11:07 PM.Home hobbiest:Build all sorts of BBQ pits & smokers (trailer & non)Lincoln 225 Cracker box (antique)O/P torchRedneck tools out the a$$.They get me by!
Reply:what is the purpose of a winch in the truck bed? I would just build brackets off the frame and drill through your bed and bolt through it... I wouldnt want to plate my entire bed, Id be worried about crud getting  underneath it and rusting out the factory box. Plus all that weight.- Christian M.C3 Welding & Fabrication - CNC Plasma Cutting-Mobile Welding-Custom welding and fabwww.c3welding.com
Reply:Originally Posted by JSmitty74Or if it's a ¾ ton or 1 ton, I'd overkill it with ½" plate
Reply:Give this thread a look. Couple of good ideas there. http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ight=bed+winch"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:Originally Posted by GravelA 4' x 8' sheet of 1/2" steel weighs about 650 lbs.
Reply:Originally Posted by camjeep3what is the purpose of a winch in the truck bed? I would just build brackets off the frame and drill through your bed and bolt through it... I wouldnt want to plate my entire bed, Id be worried about crud getting  underneath it and rusting out the factory box. Plus all that weight.
Reply:Originally Posted by JSmitty74Yes sir, which is why I stated "if it's a ¾ ton or 1 ton"Here in our oilfields, we have a lot of pickups with the bed plated, with winches to pull stuff up in the back. Mostly drill bits, subs, and other heavy items. Most of those beds have a shoot/ramp type thing at the back for items to slide up/over. Just depends on what the o/p needs the winch for. I myself usually go overkill
Reply:I drive a winch truck, but a big one (which is my avatar, lol)Home hobbiest:Build all sorts of BBQ pits & smokers (trailer & non)Lincoln 225 Cracker box (antique)O/P torchRedneck tools out the a$$.They get me by!
Reply:Originally Posted by JSmitty74I drive a winch truck, but a big one (which is my avatar, lol)
Reply:Nice set up thought that was a Tulsa best of the best. Super nice
Reply:Originally Posted by johnrbauerNice set up thought that was a Tulsa best of the best. Super nice
Reply:Looks like she hasn't been used in quite some time, lol. Oil them dogs and that chain, and she'd probably be good to goHome hobbiest:Build all sorts of BBQ pits & smokers (trailer & non)Lincoln 225 Cracker box (antique)O/P torchRedneck tools out the a$$.They get me by!
Reply:I have a 8000# Tulsa on my Ford Duly with gin poles.
Reply:Originally Posted by JSmitty74Looks like she hasn't been used in quite some time, lol. Oil them dogs and that chain, and she'd probably be good to go
Reply:That is a perfect size for light duty usage. 8K will do a lot of work at little cost. Is yours electric, hydraulic, or pto driven?SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:PTO would like to put hydraulic on it but money is the big issue.
Reply:Originally Posted by johnrbauerPTO would like to put hydraulic on it but money is the big issue.
Reply:Thanks for the info will probably leave it pto. Thanks
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauKnowing the reason you want a winch in the bed might result in better suggestions on how to go about building it. What size winch/how much line pull? Is it to pull something into the truck or pull the truck out of something? Also, knowing what kind of welding equipment you plan to use on this build might be beneficial to know. I wouldn't suggest using a 120 volt MIG or stick welder for this application.
Reply:Originally Posted by SlobI still have my winch tractor:This is a Tulsa model "80" winch with 100K first layer line pull.
Reply:I like the old Mack what is it a B Modal?
Reply:Originally Posted by johnrbauerI like the old Mack what is it a B Modal?Originally Posted by johnrbauerI like the old Mack what is it a B Modal?
Reply:Originally Posted by cambosoup99my truck is a tad smaller.. lol..Attachment 834181Attachment 834211
Reply:Ok mount the Tulsa 80 in the back seat run the cable out where the rear window use to be and keep the bed clear for treasure.
Reply:Originally Posted by cambosoup99my truck is a tad smaller.. lol..Attachment 834211
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauFirst off, I don't think you are going to need 3700 Lbs. of line pull to put anything in THAT truck. If you do, you will have already overloaded it for the weight capacity of the truck to carry it. You could use a 2000 Lb. capacity winch and still have more than you are going to need. But if you already have the winch, it's a different matter. Do you already have the winch, or is that just the size you think you need? What are you planning to load that will need that much line pull? Are you wanting to build this down near the floor of the bed, or closer to the height of the bedrails? I guess you have seen this thread already. http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...On-Pick-Up-BedIs this to be a permanent mount or one to install when needed? Have you looked under that plastic bedliner and seen the damage it has done to the paint on your sheet metal yet? I bet there are places where the paint has been rubbed off and maybe the primer too in places. I bought a used truck back in 2003 that had one, and within 3 days of owning it, I had taken it out. Maybe we can get this thread back on topic, rather than talking about heavy duty winch trucks instead. Just need more info on what you expect out of this winch mount and how/what it will be used for .
Reply:Yes I would like a 10000#
Reply:Originally Posted by gxbxcOk mount the Tulsa 80 in the back seat run the cable out where the rear window use to be and keep the bed clear for treasure.
Reply:well im never gonna pull 3700lbs into the truck (way over my trucks capacity). Just wanted it to be heavy duty at least enough to haul in 2k (which is the trucks payload capacity) I may never need to haul in 2k but I want to be able to if need be. I figured it would last longer if I'm not pulling the max rating all the time also.I will be using it for other purposes too when I don't need it on the truck so it will be removable.I'm planning on mounting it bed rail height so the cable will clear the tailgate as one member said above. I'm not worried about what it looks like underneath the plastic bedliner. once the mount gets installed, the whole bed will be spray linered.I want the mount to be heavy duty, not bed rail mounted. A plate mounted to the frame rails of the truck as one member suggested. maybe weld a steel tube to it.  (2x3 1/4" thick tube?? what would you guys suggest?) extending it to bed rail height to mount the removal winch.Last edited by cambosoup99; 09-07-2014 at 06:13 PM.
Reply:When I had an electric winch in the bed it was mounted on a "U" section where the horizontal section was welded to vertical sections which were welded to the frame after protruding through the floor. The horizontal section was threaded 3/8ths plate with a nut welded on the underside to increase thread engagement depth. There were four of these done in that plate. To this fastened a steel box of 1/4" with an opening door. The box could house straps, chains, etc. but I housed a 12VDC battery inside. The winch fairlead bolted through the top of this box and was very sturdy. The box could be unbolted from the horizontal portion and the complete assembly carried off leaving a near flat bed surface. It worked very well and was easy to work with. I had the bottom of the winch drum even with the top of the bed front panel and could winch a car onto a trailer with the tail gate down and the cable never touch it during pull; but, I did size it that way. Also in the side of the box, I'd mounted battery charging posts so a set of jumper cables from the truck to these posts would recharge the winch battery. I thought about wiring it in permanent but the install was temp, and only when needed so never did.SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:so i drew up a mockup. would this be sufficient?  2x3 or 2x4 1/4" thick steel tube for the vertical part.  1/4 plate bolted or welded to the trucks frame.Last edited by cambosoup99; 09-07-2014 at 06:47 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by SlobWhen I had an electric winch in the bed it was mounted on a "U" section where the horizontal section was welded to vertical sections which were welded to the frame after protruding through the floor. The horizontal section was threaded 3/8ths plate with a nut welded on the underside to increase thread engagement depth. There were four of these done in that plate. To this fastened a steel box of 1/4" with an opening door. The box could house straps, chains, etc. but I housed a 12VDC battery inside. The winch fairlead bolted through the top of this box and was very sturdy. The box could be unbolted from the horizontal portion and the complete assembly carried off leaving a near flat bed surface. It worked very well and was easy to work with. I had the bottom of the winch drum even with the top of the bed front panel and could winch a car onto a trailer with the tail gate down and the cable never touch it during pull; but, I did size it that way. Also in the side of the box, I'd mounted battery charging posts so a set of jumper cables from the truck to these posts would recharge the winch battery. I thought about wiring it in permanent but the install was temp, and only when needed so never did.
Reply:Cole-Hersee is about the best in automotive switchgear IMO. Been using them for many years as most of their stuff holds up. Never have used that particular type of battery isolator myself but a 200 ampere continuous duty rating will carry your prospective load(s). I'd, (just my opinion) use at least 2 gauge wire on the current carrier and ground directly to the battery, or if grounding to the frame, increase the size of the negative battery cable to at least 2 gauge and branch directly to the frame. Most of the 8-12K electric winches I've rigged up have used 2/0 cable but it's kinda expensive these days.I don't have any photos of the bed winch on my old Dodge but wish I did to show you.SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:that R model have them sexy Rockwell rear ends?
Reply:Originally Posted by pigpen60that R model have them sexy Rockwell rear ends?