Needed: Argon Flow Meter

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Looking for a good used unit or new at a good price
Reply:I have a few brand new Victor flow meters on hand, my cost on them is $65.22 and that is what I am looking to get for them.  I will pay shipping as well.  You can PM me or call me at 1-603-692-9940 if your interested. Attached Images
Reply:Rescue Welding,Unless you've also got the regulator (not shown) also, that flowmeter is not going to work for the OP.  Remember, he's starting from scratch.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Sorry Sundown...didnt know he was starting from scratch.  I just read he was looking for a flow meter so thats what I gave him a price for.
Reply:I got one last week on eBay from HTP/USAWeld for about 35 bucks, new, shippedhttp://cgi.ebay.com/HTP-Argon-CO2-Mi...item20b74c4d3c.LWS wanted about 150 for a brand name, others about 100 for the same brand name.  This looks to be in import but so far so good.
Reply:Sorry, I was unaware I also needed a reg. Someone told me I only needed the flow meter.  I am interested and will contact you this coming week.  I prefer to buy form local LWS or from a forum member.
Reply:MWalden,That Regulator/Flowmeter dstevens shows is a good buy and is going to be hard to beat at any LWS.The flowmeter Rescue shows is for a manifold system where the high bottle pressure has already been stepped down to a pressure which the flowmeter uses.For your purposes, you need a combination regulator/flowmeter.  The regulator steps down the high pressure in the bottle (generally up to 2200 PSI) to a "working pressure" of between 40-100 PSI.Basically the same principle of a 1st stage scuba setup.  1st stage steps down the hi pressue in the bottle.  2nd stage delivers the right flow of air to the diver.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by MWaldenSorry, I was unaware I also needed a reg. Someone told me I only needed the flow meter.  I am interested and will contact you this coming week.  I prefer to buy form local LWS or from a forum member.
Reply:Can you guys stop confusing me????
Reply:You want one of these: Attached Images
Reply:If what's been said in this thread is "over your head", then I suggest you pay someone else to do your tig welding for you because that will also "be over your head" and confusing.It's one thing to ask a question.  It's quite another not to do ANY homework on your own.From another of your posts (sway bar), it would appear that you only wish to hear what you want to hear and are quite reactionary when told what you don't want to hear.Personally, I think you're "pissing in the wind" trying to set up a bumblebee stick welder to do tig.  Tig is difficult enough for a new guy, even with the right equipment.  Try to "go cheap" and you're going to hate the process.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIIf what's been said in this thread is "over your head", then I suggest you pay someone else to do your tig welding for you because that will also "be over your head" and confusing.It's one thing to ask a question.  It's quite another not to do ANY homework on your own.From another of your posts (sway bar), it would appear that you only wish to hear what you want to hear and are quite reactionary when told what you don't want to hear.Personally, I think you're "pissing in the wind" trying to set up a bumblebee stick welder to do tig.  Tig is difficult enough for a new guy, even with the right equipment.  Try to "go cheap" and you're going to hate the process.
Reply:So that wasn't you who typed "Can you guys stop confusing me?????"?As I said before, you're one of those guys who, when he doesn't hear exactly what he wants to hear, he gets his panties in a knot.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIISo that wasn't you who typed "Can you guys stop confusing me?????"?As I said before, you're one of those guys who, when he doesn't hear exactly what he wants to hear, he gets his panties in a knot.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIMWalden,That Regulator/Flowmeter dstevens shows is a good buy and is going to be hard to beat at any LWS.The flowmeter Rescue shows is for a manifold system where the high bottle pressure has already been stepped down to a pressure which the flowmeter uses.For your purposes, you need a combination regulator/flowmeter.  The regulator steps down the high pressure in the bottle (generally up to 2200 PSI) to a "working pressure" of between 40-100 PSI.Basically the same principle of a 1st stage scuba setup.  1st stage steps down the hi pressue in the bottle.  2nd stage delivers the right flow of air to the diver.
Reply:Originally Posted by MWalden..... What projects I plan for my own use is actually not your business to worry about.....
Reply:Sundowns a ****, and thats no secret. Just ignore him and his little friends, and you're time on this board will be much better. There are friendly people here, dont let him fool you. Welcome to WW.[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Originally Posted by GBMIf you two were emailing each other that case Might could be made..but you are sharing information  in public  which THIRD PARTIES are reading... so if something is suggested which an experienced person sees as potentially Dangerous.... they have a responsibility to wave a Red Flag..   How they wave it is another question... butSafety has to override all the other criteria.
Reply:If you are still in need of flow meter I have exactly what you need if you are interested. The cost would be $26.95 and here is a pic of the flow meter and if you need a gas hose I can supply you with that as well for $12.95.The output flow is adjustable from 10 to 60 cfh (cubic feet per hour), and is indicated by a ball which moves up and down in the flow tube, so this flowmeter will handle MIG and TIG welding both steel and aluminum.  The fitting is a CGA-580 fitting, so it fits all argon,  helium, nitrogen, and argon/CO2 mixed gas tanks The pressure gauge which shows how much gas is left in the tank goes from 0 to 4000 psi.  The outlet will fit both the female 9/16" x 18 nut or the male 5/8" x 18 fitting.  You can see the adapter in the picture.  It comes with a standard 1/4" barbed fitting.  Please feel free to contact me via email or give me a call at 1-800-872-9353, I'm happy to work with you.Diana Attached ImagesDiana D HTP America, [email protected]
Reply:i can vouch for the HTP flowmeter. works ok and the price is right!EJ
Reply:Being its for home use and on a budget  why not get a HF one for $30  they work fine.  I have one as well as a miller and other brand name one and can't tell any difference when I am weldinghttp://www.harborfreight.com/regulator-gauge-94841.htmlyou can always add Sundown to your blocked list.  then you don't have to read ego babbleTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawBeing its for home use and on a budget  why not get a HF one for $30  they work fine.  I have one as well as a miller and other brand name one and can't tell any difference when I am weldinghttp://www.harborfreight.com/regulator-gauge-94841.htmlyou can always add Sundown to your blocked list.  then you don't have to read ego babble
Reply:Diana can you message me a price on that style of flow meter plus a Y adapter? I'm trying to set myself up for a basic purge setup running off a single argon bottle and I already have a nice flow gauge.Last edited by Taiden; 06-29-2011 at 08:35 PM.
Reply:Is it really taking a week to decide what flowmeter to buy?  Really?
Reply:Originally Posted by dstevensIs it really taking a week to decide what flowmeter to buy?  Really?About three hours ago you indicated you didn't have one.  No highjakcing here, I told you the one I just bought.  Very pleased.  It's not that hard, dude.  If you want a good low cost get the HTP or if you want to go name brand go to the LWS or a myriad of online vendors.
Reply:Originally Posted by dstevensAbout three hours ago you indicated you didn't have one.  No highjakcing here, I told you the one I just bought.  Very pleased.  It's not that hard, dude.  If you want a good low cost get the HTP or if you want to go name brand go to the LWS or a myriad of online vendors.
Reply:I have read all the advice you have been given, the way it was presented to you, AND the manner in which you have responded and interacted with the members...I have one small piece of advice for you:F'N SMARTEN UP!If you keep it up, just about every member on here, even the "Nice" ones are gonna start handing you your azz.  It is one thing to put up with a little "mouthing off" from a seasoned professional, but I don't think ANYONE on here is going to take a lot of lip from a 2-bit Know Nothing with a chip on his shoulder.You MIGHT want to re-think your apporach or move on.Later,Jason
Reply:Originally Posted by TaidenDiana can you message me a price on that style of flow meter plus a Y adapter? I'm trying to set myself up for a basic purge setup running off a single argon bottle and I already have a nice flow gauge.
Reply:Originally Posted by Broccoli1Why don't you just call them?
Reply:LOL,Wait til the OP finishes buying a torch, flowmeter, and installing a new 100A service for his new $450 welder.Then he realizes that the Dialarc 250 (or Bumblebee) is really not a very good tig welder.Great in SMAW (what it was designed for), but lousy as a GTAW machine.  Been there, got the T-Shirt.Jason (Black Wolf) hit the nail on the head regarding this poster.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIILOL,Wait til the OP finishes buying a torch, flowmeter, and installing a new 100A service for his new $450 welder.Then he realizes that the Dialarc 250 (or Bumblebee) is really not a very good tig welder.
Reply:Originally Posted by Black WolfI have read all the advice you have been given, the way it was presented to you, AND the manner in which you have responded and interacted with the members...I have one small piece of advice for you:F'N SMARTEN UP!If you keep it up, just about every member on here, even the "Nice" ones are gonna start handing you your azz.  It is one thing to put up with a little "mouthing off" from a seasoned professional, but I don't think ANYONE on here is going to take a lot of lip from a 2-bit Know Nothing with a chip on his shoulder.You MIGHT want to re-think your apporach or move on.
Reply:Originally Posted by MWaldenCan you guys stop confusing me????
Reply:Originally Posted by Oldiron2MWalden;The way I see it, this reaction to a reasonable response by Sundown is what turned the thread into a 'pissin' match; it wasn't hijacked, unless by you, who could have just said your comment about being confused was made in jest, and let all else go. Trying to justify your position and chastise Sundown who'd given you good advise so far shows no class.
Reply:So back on topic. . . .I have purchased a meter with regulator.  Thank you all for your help.
Reply:Originally Posted by MWaldenLooking for a good used unit or new at a good price
Reply:southpaw,Since you now seem obsessed with "sticking your nose in" my posts, maybe you should go back and read a few more of them.I learned tig welding on an old Linde Heliarc machine back in the mid 60's.  That, for your information was long before the Squarewave technology was available to the common user.  That machine was a  large, power hungry beast, but it was DESIGNED FOR TIG WELDING.I've melted many a pound of aluminum filler with a Miller 330 A B/P, which is also a pre Squarewave machine, but there again, the 330 was DESIGNED FOR TIG WELDING.The rebadged Miller Dialarc (Bumblebee) that the OP purchased was DESIGNED AS A STICK WELDER.  I know, because I've had one for many years.  It is the same basic machine as the OP's.  It DOES NOT HAVE REMOTE CONTROL CAPABILITY nor does it have HIGH FREQUENCY START.  It has no provision for a gas solonoid so you're limited to a gas control torch.  Can you tig steel with it.  Yes, but you're very limited and a new guy will have tremendous difficulty getting the hang of the process.If the OP's goal was to do tig welding, he bought the wrong machine.  By the time you take into account what the OP paid for his welder, then add in a HF box, he could have bought a Miller 330 A B/P ( like Zap uses) and been far ahead of the game.Trying to turn a basic Dialarc 250 into a respectable tig welder is like trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  I've been there, done that.  Have you?Now, if your ultimate goal is just to start a pissing contest with me, then (as I'm sure others will tell you) I'm up for it.  Then again, you may just be better served by using that little "ignore this poster" button.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:See, SundownIII that post you made actually contains useful information that will benefit the OP and I also learned why a Dialarc Bumblebee is not a good choice for tig.  never owing a HF version I was just making and asumption that it would have remote connectors.   does seem a bit pointless to put HF on a machine and not be able to add a pedal or gas control.    Your original comment really gave the OP no useful info as to why his machine was not a good choice for tig welding.   I do like my Airco 300,  though it does not have all the fancy features of modern machines it is a solid tig machine and can do some pretty high amp output for a single phase machine.Being that the amperage input requirement is about the same for a Dialarc/bumblebee vs a Miller 330A/BP I would agree with you it would be in the poster's best interest to sell his current machine and look for  a more appropriate machine.  I did just see 2 miller 330's sell at auction locally for 850 and 500 both setup with all the tig accessories he would need Also posted a link to a CL recently for an airco version selling for $600 so the machines are out there in his price range.Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Actually, to answer the above responses, I did NOT buy my machine to Tig weld with. I bought it strictly for AC/DC stick welding. It was after I purchased it, joined this forum and reading the entire "welding tips and tricks" site and watching all 112 of Jody's videos, that I learned I could use it as a DC Tig machine with scratch start.   I just felt it was an added bonus that could allow me to learn some basic Tig and get my feet wet.I know its not ideal in the least but it was done for many years as has been said already.The Airco machine offered me a great choice for a stick welder with both AC and DC, lots of power if I wanted it, very long leads and a build quality that should serve me for many years as I learn this.  I also feel I got about as good a welder as was available at that price. Another reason I saw the Tig as a viable option is that I have no outdoor shop yet. I cannot stick weld inside my house. I can Tig weld inside though.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIJason (Black Wolf) hit the nail on the head regarding this poster.
Reply:Originally Posted by Taidenbecause if I put too much effort into it, I will actually end up buying it. at this rate, if she never gets back to me I dont have to spend any money! call it planned negligence if you will